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DT Poll of The Day: Ignore your love for Clemson for a
Aug 3, 2012, 12:45 AM
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moment, I know its near impossible. Obviously this poll is a difficult one to be unbiased toward this season, especially with so many early commitments.
Which is best for the high school athletes(read: we aren't looking at what is best for university football programs, but at what is best for the recruits):
a. The current situation, with a Feb NSD b. an option for a 1-2 day early signing day sometime the summer-fall before NSD.
if you choose option a, please post your reasoning if you choose option b, please post what rules should colleges have to abide by?
I'm going with option b, mainly because of the stresses that these recruits have put on them even after committing. If the NCAA ruled "committing" as where other coaches could initiate contact, I'd say wait it out. However, lots of players such as Nkemdiche just get hounded until February, and you can tell its taxing on some of them.
As far as rules: I'd say limit it to 10 of your 25 allowable players. Maybe less. You don't want coaches to use this as a way to force a recruit to sign, you want this to be a way for recruits to escape the recruiting frenzy and finally get free of the stress. This would keep coaches from saying "if you don't sign with us, we may take another commit that is willing to sign and drop you."
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Re: DT Poll of The Day: Ignore your love for Clemson for a
Aug 3, 2012, 12:58 AM
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a. they should have their greatest support at this time in their lives in most cases. hs coaches, advisors, teachers and parents.
these young men are deciding the next 3-5 years of their lives. if they are looking beyond college as they should, they should take every moment possible to decide what is in their best interest.
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a. The current situation, with a Feb NSD
Aug 3, 2012, 1:36 AM
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If a player signs with a school early and the college coach gets fired or leaves after the season, then the player is stuck with a new coach unless he wants to transfer and sit out his first year. Could see this maybe saving a coach's job if he signed a bunch of good players early.
Also, a player's situation may change between the early signing period and February, like - a family member getting sick, and the player needs to play closer to home. - the school signs or gets commitments from 3 more players at his position.
So, even with the hassle, it's probably better to leave it like it is.
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my thing about the 'hassle', don't answer the phone, don't
Aug 3, 2012, 1:54 AM
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tweet, don't post on fb, don't email responses and ask your coaches and friends to respect your choice in no media contact.
clemson has limited media contact to players, most of these kids in hs aren't 18, i don't think it's too hard to limit contact if that's how they want it, certainly if their parents or advisors are involved.
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I chose "B"
Aug 3, 2012, 2:22 AM
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With the following rules:
A. Schools are limited to accepting early LOI's for up to 25% of their projected available roster spots at the time of the early signing day.
B. If there is a significant change at the school (Probation, head coaching change) prior to the February signing day the committed player can rescind his commitment and reopen his recruiting process.
C. After the early signing day players can only visit, officially or unofficially, the school he committed to.
D. Any school who drops an early commit without just cause (legal problem, etc.) forfiets that spot in the recruiting class.
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I really want to put B but
Aug 3, 2012, 3:09 AM
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it's probably in the best interest of the students to allow them to have all the information in front of them. I understand the thought that it'll help to allow them to focus on school, but that reasoning feels a little red herring. If we're really interested in their best interests, there's other ways to reform the process.
I mean, would you be willing right now to decide what you're going to do for the next 3-5 years starting a year from now. Now, imagine you're a 17 yr old kid who has 45 yr old men calling you trying to convince you.
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Re: DT Poll of The Day: Ignore your love for Clemson for a
Aug 3, 2012, 5:00 AM
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i selected the early signing period. it would allow the young man to get the recruiting fiasco behind him and concentrate on his sr. yr. in hs, academics and athletics.basketball already does it, why not football?
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These are kids.
Aug 3, 2012, 6:02 AM
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Leading up to signing day the biggest decision they've had is cheeseburger or waffles for lunch.
Some of them know how they want to spend adulthood. Most do not. The older they become the closer to adulthood they will be. I know that's stupid sounding but we often forget how much difference a year or even six months makes on one's outlook on life especially during those years that bring about so much change.
Most of these guys are overwhelmed by the presentation of D1 programs to recruits. Some make the mistake of jumping the gun and making early commitments. Imagine if the signing day was during the summer before the senior year.
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Re: DT Poll of The Day: Ignore your love for Clemson for a
Aug 3, 2012, 7:20 AM
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An early signing period allows them to focus on what they are there for- school and an education.
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why?***
Aug 3, 2012, 8:29 AM
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Re: why?***Ooo
Aug 3, 2012, 9:07 AM
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Because
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excellent.
Aug 3, 2012, 9:10 AM
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Option A
Aug 3, 2012, 9:34 AM
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I'd have to pick option A if we're speaking about what's best for the students. There's just too many things that can change over the course of a season.
- Coaching staff can completely change.
- Depth chart at your position could completely change. School you want to go to is full at your position, but over the course of a season loses one to injury, one to felony arrest, and one to academics and all of a sudden you might get a scholarship and have a chance to start as a freshman.
- You might get better offers after signing. Kid has a blowup senior year, going from 2-3 stars to 4-5 stars. His early signing commitment to ECU (his best offer when he signed) keeps him from getting offers from the powerhouse schools.
- You don't get to take the official visits and recruiting weekends during the season. You could miss out.
- NCAA violations come to light after you sign.
There's one thing that could make option B potentially better for the student. If you take the kid's early signing, he gets a full 4 year scholarship to your school even if he's injured his senior year and can't play. As far as stresses with recruiting, I agree with some of the others here. No one forces the kid to speak to the coaches or media. Commit, and tell everyone else to quit calling.
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The only problem with the guaranteed 4 year is that
Aug 3, 2012, 11:56 AM
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that would encourage coaches to talk to recruits saying "Hey, sing early, and we won't drop you after freshman year... if you don't, we will drop you if you aren't a superstar yet".
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