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All-In [10867]
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Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:16 AM
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When they see positive posts on here about our dumpster fire of a football program? I can't tell if these sunshine pumpers are truly that delusional or they are trying to troll
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Gridiron Giant [15609]
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Please show examples.***
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:17 AM
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Solid Orange [1316]
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:24 AM
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Its pathetic that someone gets angry about kids playing football. That said, Dabo has done so many great things for the football program, the athletic department, and the university its also pathetic when someone cherry picks only the bad without the entire context.
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Ultimate Tiger [35937]
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:25 AM
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I would disagree with you there. Some these guys are getting paid a LOT of money---they're basically professionals. So I think ALL the criticism is perfectly valid. Things have changed.
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Ultimate Tiger [35201]
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do you think posting on tnet
Oct 1, 2025, 11:36 AM
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Will impact their salary?
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Re: do you think posting on tnet
Oct 2, 2025, 11:56 AM
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Will defending stupidity make it go away?
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Re: do you think posting on tnet
Oct 2, 2025, 12:24 PM
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Will impact their salary?
Its a sports board. That's what people do on sports board. They discuss sports ... in this case, Clemson football ... good and bad ... they opine, they armchair coach/QB, they pump sunshine or whine and complain. No one is saying it has an impact on the team or salaries. They are simply discussing Clemson sports, for good and bad.
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Oculus Spirit [40941]
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:04 PM
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No what has changed is the fanbase (young , new , and old alike ) got spoiled by Dabo Swinney taking us on a ride to the top. Those fans that now bash and blame he and his every move or decision are simply unable to cope with the slide down that hill. They struggle with reality.
"Sunshine Pumpers" simply understand that this all really doesn't matter , that just being a part of it all for better or for the current worse is temporary ...and if the man did it twice , then it's perfectly acceptable to expect that this is indeed temporary and we can all just relax and stay the course.
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Orange Blooded [2560]
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 2, 2025, 10:19 AM
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So you're happy if he takes the money, gives his kids the money, and rides us to the bottom? You'll just say thanks for the natty 8 years ago?
However, let's keep in mind while everyone loved Danny Ford at Clemson he sucked at Arkansas and got fired after achieving a losing record. This is only to say that thinking if we hire a new coach with a "proven" track record, like Askansas did, all will be better is simply not true. Danny was a great coach...at Clemson but there is something about coaching that if you kind find that magic again you're just done.
There are only a tiny handful of coaches that have been great everywhere they went and even the great Nick Saban sucked as a pro-coach. I think that is why he retired when he did. He hated the dynamics of pro football and saw college turning into that same animal. He did not want to coach in that crap so he got out.
One of his biggest allies is Dabo Swinney. I have always believe that there are pro-coaches and college coaches. Procoaches are navigating the dynamics of highly paid players but sometimes are not great with coaching unpaid college kids. College coaches need the benefit of being the authority figure that disappears when you have mere children being paid 1 million dollars to play college football.
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Ring of Honor [22955]
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This is such a really stupid argument
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:26 AM
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It's not someone getting angry over "kids" playing football
It's fans who spend thousands every year for entertainment by grown men who make 300k to 11.5 million dollars a year to provide a putrid product.
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Re: This is such a really stupid argument
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:28 AM
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When a guy rolls up to practice driving a brand new, $160k Mercedes AMG and doesn't perform on gamedays, there's a problem.
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Ultimate Tiger [35201]
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It's just entertainment
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:40 AM
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.. there are other forms of entertainment .
Spend the money somewhere that brings you joy.
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It seems time would be better spent
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:41 AM
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1) Withholding the thousands spent every year.
2) Reaching out to the AD, board, etc… to voice concerns since those are the folks who have a say.
If you really want to make a difference, roll up your sleeves and get to real work. Until folks do that, I guess everyone else will just have to listen to the non stop whining, I mean constructive criticism.
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Ring of Honor [22955]
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I imagine all of the above will be and is being done
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:52 AM
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and will get worse if the results continue to dip.
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Great
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:57 AM
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When can everyone here expect to catch a break?
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Ring of Honor [22955]
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When we no longer suck and have inexperienced coaches
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:59 AM
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HTH
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It doesnt help
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:06 PM
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because I don’t control that. I think there is an issue with messaging here. You have a message, you just don’t understand who needs to hear the message. Unless, of course, you are just whining, which is not constructive. And I know you are a constructive person because you built a bridge for the dumb.
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Ring of Honor [22955]
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If you think you're going to be on a Clemson Message board and not hear about
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:34 PM
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how much we suck when we really suck, then you need to find another addiction.
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Its not about the results I should expect
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:49 PM
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It’s about the results those who want change should expect.
Again, I think there may be a messaging problem.
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Re: Its not about the results I should expect
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Oct 2, 2025, 12:05 PM
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What is the point of a Clemson football message board if people get whiny and butt sore when people discuss the horrific failures of the HC and staff?
If we should only comment on things we all have to take action on, wouldn’t the website shut down from inactivity?
Inauthentic positivity is just as bad as the dumpers. Actually way worse.
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If your complaint is fans are spending considerable amounts
Oct 2, 2025, 2:55 PM
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and getting a putrid product, then, as a fan, take action and quit whining about it. If all you can do is whine, then you really aren’t ready for change. And that’s ok, just be honest with everyone about why you are here. I mean, that’s what many complainers are asking Dabo to do with them, be honest.
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Re: This is such a really stupid argument
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:07 PM
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Then save your money. Open a booth at the flea market and sell your shwag.
Pizzing and crying about poor play from a bunch of kids isn't the answer.
Be patient.
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Re: This is such a really stupid argument
Oct 2, 2025, 12:29 PM
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It's not someone getting angry over "kids" playing football
It's fans who spend thousands every year for entertainment by grown men who make 300k to 11.5 million dollars a year to provide a putrid product.
Agreed, but I think this case is less about players getting paid and being semi-pro, and more about ... this is literally a sports boad. it was made precisely to discuss all aspects, good or bad, of Clemson sports. so, asking if someone thinks their posts will impact salaries is a red herring ... the poster never suggested it would.
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:08 PM
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Its pathetic that someone gets angry about kids playing football. That said, Dabo has done so many great things for the football program, the athletic department, and the university its also pathetic when someone cherry picks only the bad without the entire context.
The correct context: our players are not kids, they are highly compensated students athletes. Coaches make millions to coach. If we played well and lost to a better team, we could understand. Playing with little emotion and looking totally disorganized plus loses to less talented teams is totally unacceptable. I don’t get mad but will express my opinion
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Im sorry you are confused.
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Hopefully you find the clarity and understanding you are looking for.
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Ts & Ps you're not taking it out on the bottle, or displacing it on the dog...
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:30 AM
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no good can come of that.
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Athletic Dir [1142]
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No
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:32 AM
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I don’t care enough about what people think to let it upset me. And I hope they feel the same about my opinion. I’m here for amicable conversation.
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Clemson Conqueror [11192]
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What really irks me is how Clemson is being taken to the
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:32 AM
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cleaners to ensure cushy jobs for unqualified people. Especially knowing that the Swinney boys are drawing a paycheck. What exactly do they bring to the table?
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I am sure Dabo will fire his sons for the good of the team.***
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Re: I am sure Dabo will fire his sons for the good of the team.***
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:02 PM
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You drinking already PBT, he ain’t firing his boys or taking away the scholarship .. $11.5 million a year only goes so far ?
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Yes***
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:58 PM
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it's useless fodder to generate income for crump.
Oct 1, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Why get angry?
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:35 AM
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Your making me laugh. You are full of yourself.. Angry because people just love Clemson because it's...Clemson? And staying positive is always a good thing even in the darkness days of something. You know like Britain on its knees after Dunkirk but fighting back positively to beat the Nazis.
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
Oct 2, 2025, 3:22 PM
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Are you really comparing Clemson football results to Dunkirk?
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
Oct 1, 2025, 11:36 AM
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As someone who has made positive posts (and not so positive) I agree the season so far is a dumpster fire, no question. But every game it boils down to a lack of focus, energy, and mistakes that snowball. It take too long to list all the reasons. For me negative posts (at least by me) are mostly emotional and reactive. Positive ones, more reasoned with more of a big picture approach. Don't mistake them for a lack of frustration at the current state of the program.
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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I’ll take this dumpster fire of a program and coach Dabo all day long and twice on Sunday! If you don’t like them, go join the GC’s. But, stop trashing out Tigers with your negative posts, please?
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 11:45 AM
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No.
That’s their opinion. Charlie Kirk was killed because people got “angry” over his opinion.
I don’t agree with these orange glasses wearing sunshine pumpers but I’m not angry they feel that way.
Now it annoys me when they call out other fans for their displeasure in the state of our program then go on to downplay the problems and constantly use our pre Covid record and our previous success as a reason we are fine today.
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:04 PM
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Careful, lets not be logical ..
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:04 PM
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Why would you care at all whether or not people think the way you do? That’s ridiculous…
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
Oct 1, 2025, 12:05 PM
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No. It's weird that you do.
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Angry from reading nonsense on the internet?
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Oct 1, 2025, 12:38 PM
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Lol no.
I'd recommend logging off then seeking help. Or a hug. Or something.
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Re: Does anyone else get angry
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Oct 2, 2025, 9:48 AM
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Two things can be true.
Not be satisfied with the state of things AND loving the program and coach.
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National Champion [7320]
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It's a game.
Oct 2, 2025, 12:33 PM
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So getting angry at the pumpers' take on the state of the program, or the dumpers' take on the state of the program, is a choice. And a poor one at that.
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Ring of Honor [23125]
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Anger is an overstatement with this team and coaching staff
Oct 2, 2025, 3:02 PM
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Apathy, disappointment and bemusement are more accurate emotions.
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