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Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:05 AM
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In an interview he was asked about leaving (perhaps the Bama question) and I remember him saying he planned to stay at Clemson until the fans quit appreciating winning.
Reading the poop on the boards from some of you - makes me think we are about to that point. People like JK who constantly make jealousy jabs at the football program. Many others complaining about a win Saturday and “how we should have won by more”. Or that Dabo has made poor choices in his coaching staff. Or how he should have started a true freshman who is talented, but not ready to run the team just yet. Constantly complaining about not finding great backups in the transfer portal who want to come and be backups (which is why they are in the portal.). Second guessing everything.
Keyboard snowflakes are not members of the team. They are not on the staff. They don’t know all the issues. They don’t have skin in the game. They are simply complainers.
Dabo has earned our respect, loyalty, and accolades. Can we act like fans? Sure. But so many of you have taken it well beyond that.
Dabo know’s what he is doing. He will make whatever changes he feels are in the best interest of the team, school and players. If he feels a change is needed and a honorable coach is out there that fits, then I am confident he will make a move.
Complain about a bad call. Complain about a poor decision that got intercepted. But jeez guys, at our “horrible “ time, Clemson is 9-1 and still has an outside shot at the playoffs. TAM has talent and lots of losses. Bama has 2 losses and a couple of scares. LSU has 2 losses and one to a team we beat.
Are we dominant? Nope. Are we very good? Yes.
Appreciate what we have and the position Dabo has put us in. Negativity will end up running Dabo off and then what? Back to 8-3 and 7-4 seasons.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:23 AM
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This ^^ x 1000
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:23 AM
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Well said. Agree 100%!
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:25 AM
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Spot on.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Best post on this board in a long time, Agree totally!
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:43 AM
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I totally agree with your statements BUT Dabo also knows that the majority of Tiger fans support him fully. As long as Death Valley has 80,000 in the seats, as it has all season, Dabo knows who the real fans are. I’m sure he ignores those who likely have never set foot in Clemson Memorial Stadium or provide any support of his teams other than internet posting. As I’ve said countless times.... support the Clem$on Tiger$. .$cholar$hips mean$ champion$hips.
Dabo is a wise man. He has the support that he needs to stay for years and he will not lose that support.
There are thousands of Tiger supporters who will keep him around because we all
Know that he is a valuable asset to our university.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 5:20 PM
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First, I couldn't begin to count the number of times I've drove 3 hours one way to attend a Clemson FB game even in the very bad years, and most of those times I would make those trips by my self bc I lived in Sumter where most college FB fans back in those days were coot fans, and there was no internet where people can meet like people in their home towns like they can now, so I didn't have or know many Clemson fans around Sumter back in the day. To be honest, even with my family, cousins and all, I was the only Clemson fan among them, but with most of my family, they didn't care much for college sports, and the ones that did, they were coots. And that's the main reason I made all those 3 hour trips to Clemson by my self.
Being honest again, and I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong, but, I truly believe that Dabo made his first big mistake with his two COORDINATOR hires in 2022. Our Tiger FB team has suffered from those two coordinator hires all season, and will continue to suffer from their coaching ability that lacks experience, and until Dabo corrects his biggest mistake, Clemson FB will suffer until he fixes it!!!!
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POST OF THE YEAR!!!!***
Nov 13, 2022, 10:38 AM
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Dabo also said,
Nov 13, 2022, 10:42 AM
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“Don’t worry about criticism from people that you wouldn’t seek advice from”
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Re: Dabo also said,
Nov 13, 2022, 10:45 AM
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“Grow where you’re planted”
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Yep - hopefully Dabo takes that to heart - and doesn't
Nov 14, 2022, 1:54 PM
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use TNET to take the pulse of Tiger Nation.
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Let me add this perspective…
Nov 13, 2022, 10:50 AM
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First, I’m not saying anything relative to CDS not being the coach that Clemson needs. CDS is a TREASURE to Clemson.
However, MY frustration over the present situation is what Clemson LOST by NOT showing up in South Bend.
CDS said it yesterday, ”…where did my team go in South Bend?” after having two (2) weeks to heal, prep, and plan for that game that was the LAST ROAD game while sitting at #4 and in the catbird’s seat for the CFP.
The Tigers had to approach that game in South Bend AS A PLAYOFF GAME, PERIOD.
There must be some SELF AWARENESS as to what was at stake that night in South Bend.
A shot at the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP was p155ed away due to absolute careless lack of preparation against a clearly inferior team in Notre Dame.
How in the h311 does Wes Goodwin & Brandon Streeter NOT have this team ready last Saturday in South Bend?
Too much was LOST last week in South Bend. Simply too much.
After the season is over, I believe that CDS needs to review his critical coaching coordinator positions after that EPOCH Notre Dame fail.
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Re: Let me add this perspective… itiger
Nov 14, 2022, 9:28 AM
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####. You still don't get it. Don't need your perspectives. Teams don't always win.
Get over it. Move on.... to another team.
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Re: Let me add this perspective…
Nov 14, 2022, 5:27 PM
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Our Clemson Tiger lost to ND for one big reason, they matched our team with talent, and better coaching... Anybody that says that isn't so, I hate to say it to you, but you are wrong bc, what I said is the absolute truth!!!
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Re: Let me add this perspective…
Nov 14, 2022, 6:10 PM
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So what , we got out coached and out motivated. If you have ever played sports it( do do) happens. It’s impossibly to always win every game. I can see you have never been on a sports field.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:54 AM
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Best post on Tigernet in weeks!
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Right.
Nov 13, 2022, 10:56 AM
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Because a grown man that overcame extreme obstacles making over $9 million a year can’t handle a little bit of heat and objective criticism that is extremely accurate from fans on a message board on the Internet!
Gotcha!
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Re: Right.
Nov 13, 2022, 10:58 AM
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“Accurate”. Lol.
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Re: Right.
Nov 13, 2022, 11:13 AM
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So you think all the “advice” on this board is accurate
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Re: Right.
Nov 14, 2022, 5:33 PM
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Anybody saying that coaching is A major problem with our teams performance is right!!!
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 10:58 AM
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Great poast!
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The comments to this OP are a perfect example of the problem at Clemson.
Nov 13, 2022, 10:59 AM
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Emotional little children that call themselves loyal Clemson fans that can’t stand a little bit of objective criticizing of their fearless leader and cult hero.
I hope most of these people commenting are not Clemson graduates and not grow mature men.
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I think Dabo has said at some time in the past that he’d leave when
Nov 13, 2022, 1:47 PM
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players started getting paid. I hope he wasn’t serious because with NIL we’re not too far from that point now!?
Go Tigers!
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 11:12 AM
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The people still complaining about Not having a say so in how Dabo runs his program are the same people who are still upset for being picked last in kickball in middle school, and were looking forward to that juice box and cookies after their rec ball game.Maybe your moms can request a meeting with the coach if that will help! I’m enjoying this time as a long time Iptay member and supporter of everything Clemson, I’ve seen a lot worse, A lot worse.
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Tnet hysteria is out of hand
Nov 13, 2022, 12:39 PM
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Dabo isn’t leaving over “Keyboard snowflakes” who “are not members of the team.”
He’s HFC at an elite level school, he is aware criticism comes with the job.
The fan support is found at DV on Saturdays anyway, not here where literally anyone can come post pretty much whatever they want.
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Do you need a safe space?***
Nov 13, 2022, 12:47 PM
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 1:36 PM
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Here's what people need to realize is that Dabo makes mistakes like the rest of us. He knows what is broken and he will fix it. He's not going to come right out and say it during the season. After the season he will make adjustments as needed.
They might finish 13-1 ranked in the top 6 or 7 and he may keep things the same. He knows what he's doing.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 1:39 PM
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Post of the year. ? for you. Go Tigers! We can play with anyone when we are focused and prepared. Let’s win out.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 1:46 PM
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Great post!
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 1:53 PM
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Well said. I told a friend the other day that Dabo is in a position to walk away from college football because of the negativity growing within the fan base. If people are complaining about an 9-1 team , a OB who put the team on his back , yes I mean DJ to win some key games for Clemson. The more negative this board becomes and the more fans openly negative Clemson fan’s make it public known could possibly influence Dabo’s decision to leave the Clemson.
Appreciate what we have before it’s to late to show that appreciation for what Dabo has accomplished as the HC.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 1:55 PM
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Where is he going to go? Alabama? If you think we are bad you should try them on for size.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 2:08 PM
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Where is he going to go? Alabama? If you think we are bad you should try them on for size.
Amen! Not even in the same Stratosphere as Alabama. The Negativity in Tuscaloosa makes Clemson look like Club Med.
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David Hood’s article
Nov 13, 2022, 2:13 PM
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Posted after the rear end kicking at South Bend summed everything up beautifully. He even said that Dabo does not have his head in the sand concerning the problems with the team.
This is not about losing appreciation for the wins. This is about Clemson not living up to its”Best is Standard” slogan. Is this a good team? Yes.
Is this team currently capable of winning a title? No It is up to Dabo to correct the problems to get his team back to CFP form.
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What is happening here is happening for two reason.
Nov 13, 2022, 2:14 PM
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Neither of which has anything to do with Dabo, his staff or our players.'
Tnet has grafted onto many people who live their lives criticizing others but never take the first introspective look and examine themselves. They do not realize the horrible attitude within but continue in their jealousy of those who have, are and will continue to succeed in life. You can consider them the loudmouthed minority of the multiple thousands who signed up and post on Tigernet.
Tnet's other problem is the vast majority of Clemson fans who absolutely love Clemson, they who know that Dabo, his staff and our players are no more than human and recognize the frailness and flaws of human sufferings because they refuse to judge because of their self examination.
We who support Clemson, Clemson football and our players, staff and head coach should speak louder and with more authority rather than cowling in the corner and holding our peace. We must remember, five clicks from five members on the small Orange flag at the bottom right of a post can rid Tnet of the post.
Five clicks sends the loudmouths' post to the cornfield.
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I think the TU total of this thread proves my points.***
Nov 14, 2022, 1:07 PM
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 13, 2022, 3:48 PM
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Cosign
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 12:16 PM
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Great job!
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ALL IN GO DABO - GO TIGERS***
Nov 14, 2022, 12:33 PM
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 12:50 PM
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You make all good points. I guess my only counter would be to ask what good is a discussion board if you aren't allowed to have any discussion other than to pump sunshine and ignore some of the difficulties.
I know it is a fine line but teams are going to lose and fans are going to squawk. I think Dabo is a very confident and secure man and I really don't think what comes across on TNet impacts him at all. If the resources dried up and fans weren't showing up then I could see your point more clearly. The reality is that Dabo has been very good for Clemson and Clemson has been very good for Dabo.
He knows fan distress comes with the territory and has been dealing with it throughout his coaching career. I think if he ever does leave it won't be because of a discussion board. Much bigger issues will have had to crop up for that to happen.
Just one man's opinion...
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 7:46 PM
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I don’t disagree a bit with your comments. I do think that there are quite a few - like JK that simply post negative crap without any reason. These comments are meant to be divisive, not to simply commiserate.
To say that a coach should be fired because a player on another team did better than a player that did not live up to recruiting rankings is simply wrong.
It has gone over the top.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 8:05 PM
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In an anonymous forum like this, haters are gonna hate. It goes with the territory but I try to just realize that everyone is different and I can still state an opinion but not get all worked up about it if no one agrees with me. I still enjoy the back and forth. I don't mind at all people challenging or belittling my opinion as long as they don't try and make it personal. They don't know anything about me, nor do I about them so there is no reason to be childish with your comments. Stick to YOUR opinion and I will do the same. (I don't mean you personally, I mean in general).
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 12:53 PM
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In an interview he was asked about leaving (perhaps the Bama question) and I remember him saying he planned to stay at Clemson until the fans quit appreciating winning.
Reading the poop on the boards from some of you - makes me think we are about to that point. People like JK who constantly make jealousy jabs at the football program. Many others complaining about a win Saturday and “how we should have won by more”. Or that Dabo has made poor choices in his coaching staff. Or how he should have started a true freshman who is talented, but not ready to run the team just yet. Constantly complaining about not finding great backups in the transfer portal who want to come and be backups (which is why they are in the portal.). Second guessing everything.
Keyboard snowflakes are not members of the team. They are not on the staff. They don’t know all the issues. They don’t have skin in the game. They are simply complainers.
Dabo has earned our respect, loyalty, and accolades. Can we act like fans? Sure. But so many of you have taken it well beyond that.
Dabo know’s what he is doing. He will make whatever changes he feels are in the best interest of the team, school and players. If he feels a change is needed and a honorable coach is out there that fits, then I am confident he will make a move.
Complain about a bad call. Complain about a poor decision that got intercepted. But jeez guys, at our “horrible “ time, Clemson is 9-1 and still has an outside shot at the playoffs. TAM has talent and lots of losses. Bama has 2 losses and a couple of scares. LSU has 2 losses and one to a team we beat.
Are we dominant? Nope. Are we very good? Yes.
Appreciate what we have and the position Dabo has put us in. Negativity will end up running Dabo off and then what? Back to 8-3 and 7-4 seasons.
It's why I don't post on this board. I totally agree with your assessment. Though I don't think Dabo is going to leave anytime soon. Go Tigers! 82 grad
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 1:05 PM
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Well said! Agree!
Sat near a guy Saturday who was mad when he sat down, mad when we scored and mad when we didn’t, mad when he left. It was all Streeter’s fault
I told my wife it must be a miserable life
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 1:06 PM
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But I still had a good time... 
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It was Dabo who came up with “best is the standard”
Nov 14, 2022, 1:07 PM
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…not the fans who clearly see we aren’t playing up the standard…don’t get pissed at us when we see and call our mediocrity not in results but performance
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Best is the standard doesn't mean "Nothing bad will happen"
Nov 14, 2022, 3:50 PM
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Fans don't "clearly see" almost anything. Fans are fans for a reason.
Having the personal hubris to attack the program at this point is ridiculous.
There is no legitimate basis for anyone here to "call out" anything yet. What fan deserves to believe they understand things better than anyone else? The last 10 years are a wild success. Fans who are throwing emotional fits on here are just wrestling with their own externally tethered egos.
Do we have things to be unhappy about? Do we have unanswered questions? YES and YES.
Should we be vigilant and when the program is falling apart demand something be done? YES. But it's INSANE to think we are there yet.
And is it appropriate to start claiming "Dabo is hurting the program?" He took this 100+ year old program to new heights. People should just chill and learn to live with temporary disappointment.
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I hear they have been moaning in Tuscaloosa...***
Nov 14, 2022, 1:30 PM
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 3:33 PM
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If it was up to me, I'd make this a...
... HALL OF FAME POST!!!
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 3:42 PM
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Dabo will leave a job that pays 11.5 million because fans are mad???
Will the cultish behavior ever end on this website?
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Fans and pecherheads are not the same people
Nov 14, 2022, 3:44 PM
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can't come to that conclusion reading T net ....
lots of complainers and imposters. ....
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Legend [17599]
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UVA has issues
Nov 14, 2022, 3:46 PM
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Clemson truly does not. Dabo has had a great run supplanting Danny Ford as the GOAT of Clemson coaches. He has earned it and is paid accordingly. He will leave Clemson when his heart's not in it, and it will be his decision and on his terms. Hopefully, not for another 10 years.
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CU Medallion [55399]
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Re: UVA has issues
Nov 14, 2022, 5:53 PM
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Agree, but I also want to say that I was one of a small number of Clemson fans that was just fine with Dabo being hired as our HC. Everything that I could find to read about Dabo during that time, everything pointed to Dabo being a very smart man, and he had done really well when he was out of coaching, and that is what made me believe that he would have success as the HC at Clemson. Did it ever cross my mind that Dabo would ever be as successful as he's been as the HC at Clemson, not even close bc, I thought that with all the hate being aimed at Dabo when he was hired as HC, that he probably wouldn't get a fair chance to prove that he was smart enough to build a championship team at a school as small as Clemson was when Dabo was hired as Clemson FB HC. But after 2011, I did feel, and believe that if another NC could be won at Clemson, that Dabo was the HC that would lead our Tiger FB team to our second NC. Dabo has exceeded everything that I believed he would do at Clemson bc, I believe that if he could lead our team to another NC, that would be hired away from Clemson by the time he brought our team back to Clemson after winning a NC at little ole Clemson!!!!
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Oculus Spirit [82039]
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I gave this poast a big ol fat TU.
Nov 14, 2022, 4:01 PM
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 6:06 PM
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Well said. It is the snowflakes that have only been along since we have been elite that I see that are embarrassing themselves with their terrible attitude. I have been in the stands when we only won 2 or 3 games in the season. I never ever thought Clemson would be in this position in Football. Dabo Sweeney is the one that has made all this possible. The entire Clemson community has grown because of Dabo and his leadership. If the snowflakes can’t support and appreciate what is going on then go back home as we don’t need you and your negativity here. Take your woke attitude somewhere else. Believe me it is not appreciated here and you stand out like a sore butt.
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 6:17 PM
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Poast of the year.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 6:37 PM
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Dabo’s is not nearly as fickle as those bandwagon fans you’re talking about.
He’s plenty strong enough to discard the nonsense.
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Associate AD [837]
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 7:49 PM
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I 100 percent agree
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Orange Blooded [2341]
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THANK YOU
Nov 14, 2022, 8:09 PM
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It needed to be said!!!!!
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Orange Blooded [4035]
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Re: THANK YOU
Nov 14, 2022, 8:12 PM
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You and many others are very welcome. I had my fill of the complainers. There are many more supporters than complainers, but sometimes we need to call them out. Thanks. Go Tigers!
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110%er [5572]
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Re: Dabo predicted when he would leave Clemson several years ago
Nov 14, 2022, 11:33 PM
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While I appreciate some of your points because they're valid, I don't think Dabo runs away from Clemson because a bunch of crazy internet trolls complain about him, his coaching staff, or his players.
Tigernet doesn't represent what Clemson fans or grads in "the real world" think. LOL. Dabo doesn't care what Tigernet thinks either.
Personally, I've noticed that all the completely unhinged fans and Clemson haters seem to take over Tigernet anytime the program faces adversity. Tigernet truly represents the bottom of garbage can of the Clemson fan base after a loss. All the big losers pop out of the woodwork.
And, it's why Tigernet isn't representative of the average Clemson fan, not even a little.
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