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CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
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Athletic Dir [1165]
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CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
Aug 13, 2025, 5:07 PM
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First off I could be dead wrong but I'll make my statement and pose questions.
I believe that "targeting", some injuries, concussions and other problems are due to modern equipment. It seems to me that with the equipment moving to smaller or non existent, we've made the game less safe. Specifically, shoulder pads.
These "barely there" shoulder pads, I believe l, are at least a part of the problem. Back in the day shoilder pads stood about 6 inches off the shoulder, usually rising to the level of at least the ear hole of the helmet. Many players, especially on defense wore neck rolls. When a player ducked their head to take on conract or initiate contact the shoulder pad was much more likely to make contact first. With much more padding, standing much higher, that pad dispersed the impact to the opposing player. The pads had much more give. This put a much bigger space between the (hard) bone in the shoulder and the point of contact.
These small, barely there, pads have much less "give", leave much less space between bone and point of contact and make it MUCH more likely that the helmet will make first contact with the only 'give" being the neck.
It seems to me that if we go back to the taller pads, maybe some type of gel padding inside the helmet, an outer soft layer over the hard material, and neck rolls we could really reduce some of these issues.
I truely believe these tiny shoulder pads are a huge problem. The older, taller pads used to bear the brunt of most hits. Now, even if the player tries to make contact with the shoulder there is not a whole lot there and the helmet is going to make meaningful impact in most cases.
I could be totally wrong here but this is my observation and thought. Anyone else have an opinion? Do you think we should do some experimentation and see if these new, tiny shoulder thongs (yes i said thongs) are to blame for some of the problems we see?
Sorry so long but I've been thinking about this for several years now. I would also like to see a study done of the +/- of neck rolls. I would think that the neck being stopped from violently snapping rearward would be much better.
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Gridiron Giant [15610]
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Modern equipment is far superior to old equipment and it hasnt caused any
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Aug 13, 2025, 5:19 PM
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injuries that I’m aware of. How about you?
The helmet for instance has been designed and redesigned and it’s far better at absorbing impact than they used to be.
I don’t think equipment is the issue with CTE. It’s bigger and faster men colliding with large forces. The helmet absorbs as much as it can, but the brain is going to see the impact and shake etc. regardless.
The guardian caps would absorb some force, but they would take some major getting used to.
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Re: CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
Aug 13, 2025, 6:15 PM
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Former NFL players have been dealing with CTEs for years and years and the violent nature of the game is there every day. I wish there was an answer to concussions but sadly they happen.
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Tiger Spirit [9929]
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Re: CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
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Aug 13, 2025, 6:33 PM
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I don’t think there are more concussions or more CTE now than there used to be. Medical field is better at identifying it and now that the NFL has been sued due to CTE, they are more proactive in taking action when concussions are identified.
Years ago, it was just swept under the rug and the player would try to keep playing.
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Re: CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
Aug 13, 2025, 6:45 PM
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Concussions are not the main cause of the development of CTE. Sub and non-concussive (repeated hits to the head) are more likely to be the culprit.
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Tiger Spirit [9929]
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Re: CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
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Aug 13, 2025, 7:01 PM
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Yes but proactively treating concussions and mandating safer policies keep the NFL out of additional lawsuits.
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Re: CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
Aug 13, 2025, 7:04 PM
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fiar. it will be interesting to see if the NFL can keep the popularity up when an in-vivo (living) test is developed for CTE.
Will also be interesting to see how colleges like Clemson can ethically justify tackle football if the prevalence of CTE is high in its players.
I think we are heading toward to flag football. not next year. not in 10. but maybe 20.
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All-Pro [700]
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Re: CTE, targeting, equipment, etc
Aug 13, 2025, 8:36 PM
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An accurate living test for CTE could be the thing that ends football as we know it. If >10% of players at the college level showed evidence of CTE that could end it. If >30% did and it probably would for sure. If you coupled that with players being declared employees of the school and I don’t think any school would field a team.
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