Tiger Board Logo

Donor's Den General Leaderboards TNET coins™ POTD Hall of Fame Map FAQ
GIVE AN AWARD
Use your TNET coins™ to grant this post a special award!

W
50
Big Brain
90
Love it!
100
Cheers
100
Helpful
100
Made Me Smile
100
Great Idea!
150
Mind Blown
150
Caring
200
Flammable
200
Hear ye, hear ye
200
Bravo
250
Nom Nom Nom
250
Take My Coins
500
Ooo, Shiny!
700
Treasured Post!
1000

YOUR BALANCE
Comment on Grayson Manns culture article
Tiger Boards - Clemson Football
add New Topic
Topics: Previous | Next
Replies: 12
| visibility 1725

Comment on Grayson Manns culture article

3
9

Nov 16, 2025, 12:24 AM
Reply

No criticism of the article writer he is just putting out content for discussion.

but man oh man, how many times is Dabo gonna pull out this culture card nonsense as a red herring from the real problems and relevant criticisms and questions.

"heart of a champion" "nobody wants it more than these guys" i find the constant cliche phrase usage at this point not as keeping it positive but just downright insulting to the fan base and anyone viewing the very dissapointing product he keeps putting out there.

usually when someone focuses so much on one thing like "culture" or any other focus not involved with winning games, its because they are no longer elite at winning games. I notice he rarely pulls out his "fun is in the winning" phrase anymore, that was his biggest one during the championship years. but i think he wants us to kind of forget that one now.

now we need to be happy if were 5-5 because our millionaire stars on defense and offense have the " heart of champions" are made of "the right stuff" and our 12 million dollar coach is promising all kinds of rosy things in the future.......sure thing man.

THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES [ Figurative meaning:] The phrase is now an idiom used to describe a situation where an obvious truth is being ignored or denied by a large group of people, often because they are afraid to speak out or criticize someone powerful or widely accepted.

flag link
military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Sounds like Dabo has a team of Rudy's***

1

Nov 16, 2025, 12:28 AM
Reply



2025 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


was there no more room under Grayson's article? and you seem easily insulted...

2

Nov 16, 2025, 12:36 AM
Reply

that's not a good look.

2025 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: Comment on Grayson Manns culture article

2

Nov 16, 2025, 12:53 AM
Reply

I get it, I totally get it. However, people are aware that some major staff changes are coming at the end of the season. Dabo doesn't make staff changes mid-season. He has always waited until the end of the season to make necessary staff changes. Of which, I think he will bring in a new offensive coordinator and allow them to bring their own position coaches with them. Of course, I don't believe Matt Luke will be let go. He's a recruiting monster and actually knows how to develop players. His efforts have shown after one season even though the guys taking most of the snaps are Thomas Austin's former recruits.

I also believe that a few defensive position coaches will be let go at the end of the season. Then Tom Allen can bring in his preferred personnel into the fold. I hope that the analyst/development support staff is thinned out a bit as well because it's a crowded room with people who lack experience in coaching. Those positions are typically reserved for partially retired coaches with at least 30 years of experience.

tnet-military.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Our country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any America because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race.

~Chesty Puller
Lt.General United States Marine Corps


Re: Comment on Grayson Manns culture article


Nov 16, 2025, 1:55 AM
Reply

Props to Hans Christian Andersen. He was a Dane, so I my not quite have the spelling right. One of my favorite tales and a great descriptor of corporate America, and American football, or so it seems.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Comment on Grayson Manns culture article


Nov 16, 2025, 5:34 AM
Reply

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt was also a key figure and instrumental in making foundational changes to corporate structures.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Ironic post is ironic

4

Nov 16, 2025, 3:00 AM
Reply

The daily dumpers "pull out" the same negative "nonsense" with a little different twist and some different words over and over and over... Your post for example says (correct me if I'm wrong):

"culture card nonsense" - don't care about culture

"red herring" - don't care about culture, just win games

"real problems and relevant criticisms and questions" - just win games

"constant cliche phrase usage" - don't care what you say, just win games

My same ole, same ole - we could just be like UGA, graduate 41% of our players, be ok with multiple arrests every preseason, and let anything questionable get swept under the rug for wins. Trade all the other "nonsense" for wins. Just win baby. That's what we want right?

2025 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: Ironic post is ironic

1

Nov 16, 2025, 3:12 AM
Reply

BigAl31® said:

The daily dumpers "pull out" the same negative "nonsense" with a little different twist and some different words over and over and over... Your post for example says (correct me if I'm wrong):

"culture card nonsense" - don't care about culture

"red herring" - don't care about culture, just win games

"real problems and relevant criticisms and questions" - just win games

"constant cliche phrase usage" - don't care what you say, just win games

My same ole, same ole - we could just be like UGA, graduate 41% of our players, be ok with multiple arrests every preseason, and let anything questionable get swept under the rug for wins. Trade all the other "nonsense" for wins. Just win baby. That's what we want right?





certainly i dont want clemson to become like Georgia where they are essentially a bunch of crooks running wild, killing people racing cars, players ###### people sexual assaults.......under kirby Georgia's culture is just criminality no one guiding the ship, of course on field they have been good.

i'm only focusing on georgia since you brought them up, of course many other teams doing well right now dont run a criminal farm, Notre Dame as a current example. So in short yes it matters how you carry yourself, but at some point you cant use that as a shield for poor performence.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Ironic post is ironic

1
2

Nov 16, 2025, 5:27 AM [ in reply to Ironic post is ironic ]
Reply

I would take the results UGA is getting over our own. Graduation is up to the kids and the parents. Coaches don’t need to be babysitters; they need to develop the talent on the field and let the professors develop the talent in the classroom.

Programs like Ohio State do both. Why can’t we?

2025 purple level member flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Ironic post is ironic

1

Nov 16, 2025, 11:56 AM [ in reply to Ironic post is ironic ]
Reply

Oh yeah I’ve criticized Dabo enough this year. This isn’t another one of such posts.

Dabo is spot on for not trying to emulate how UGA, Miami, OH State, MI, USC, aTm, Penn State, TX, etc etc etc.

We simply have not, nor will we ever have, the combination of huge financial resources + recruiting home-ground of those guys. A hard working small man fighter who exercises and crafts his technique will never beat a larger man who works equally hard and crafts his skills as what the smaller guy did.

Dabo has worked with special CEO type insight to recognize areas where Clemson can be better than the aforementioned ‘big guys.’

Every program has culture. Dabo has worked incredibly hard to create a truly distinctive culture that fits Clemson University’s unique blend of natural attributes. Especially noteworthy is Dabo’s recognition that many superb prospects from the FB perspective will not appreciate the Clemson-type culture; he doesn’t waste time pursuing those guys.

Clemson’s natural attributes are rural environment is topographically nice with nice weather except in the summer … but there’s a nice lake adjacent to C.University for enjoyable outside recreation even on the hottest summer days.

The Southeast part of the culture picture is a heavier presence of Christian faith than outside of the SE USA. Overtly Christian values are not an attribute for many prospective players. Dabo understands this and doesn’t waste (much) time trying to convince who are minimally (Christian-centric) religious to choose Clemson for our other attributes. Again, when every ‘unique’ advantage is needed to convince a highly recruited prospect should forgo the bigger bucks, we’re already even further less likely to win the recruiting battle. Therefore, we focus more on prospects who go to Christian focused private schools instead of scattering our recruiting efforts on players who are not openly committed to Christianity as a guiding principle in life.

The final ‘Dabo culture’ pitch is that Clemson commits to the player’s well being. As long as the player does all the practice and off-season conditioning, does his schoolwork, and keeps out if (big) trouble, Clemson will not ‘run him off’ the team. Look at Zaire Patterson. Highly regarded HS DE prospect that is a 5th year SR, almost never gets in a game. Dabo can (diplomatically / obliquely) refer to how Clemson FB never strayed from trying to develop ZP as opposed to runn8ng him off and bringing in a bunch of transfers to put ‘at the front of the line.’

NIL has made it harder than ever to sell the Clemson culture. However, NIL or no NIL, Clemson will NEVER possess the financial resources to go $ for $ against the aforementioned competing schools. Dabo recognizes that our ~ unique culture and rural atmosphere must continue to be emphasized so that we can still beat other places for top end recruits.

Sammy Brown is the most visible of such recent successes for us. He could have gone anywhere in America and would be starting (or at worst, first from among the second string players to get in the game) for all of them. Yet, he chose us. Culture was the difference maker.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: Comment on Grayson Manns culture article

1

Nov 16, 2025, 3:30 AM
Reply

Stay away from sharp objects 😬

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Comment on Grayson Manns culture article

5

Nov 16, 2025, 6:21 AM
Reply

I'm curious ... what would you talk about amidst similar struggles, if you were in Dabo's shoes ?
Would you ...after each game speak to the few positives and then possibly denigrate your players and coaching staff ? Bring up what you believe in and see in the players or just call them and your coaches out each and every time you stood in front of a microphone?
I think what Dabo is doing is working on a problem that he believes he knows how to remedy and in the interim we get coach speak about it.
Nothing about his approach to interviews has really changed , he just has what he has to talk about and he is doing it the way almost anyone in his position would.

That's my thoughts on it.

2025 white level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

DB23


Re: Comment on Grayson Manns culture article


Nov 16, 2025, 11:59 AM
Reply

You just called out the Republican Party!

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Replies: 12
| visibility 1725
Tiger Boards - Clemson Football
add New Topic
Topics: Previous | Next