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Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 11:00 AM

A buddy of mine that works for Clemson told me that the reason Clowney pushed his commitment announcement past signing day is because he wanted to go to Clemson but he had to wait to see if he could make it into school. The day he was denied admission, he called nick saban and Saban told him flat out no. That's when he called the coot coaches and committed to them. He apparently begged Clemson to take him but they wouldnt. Our admission standards need to change if we want to keep up with teams like LSU and Alabama. We are a Clowney away from being in the national championship this year and next. So blame it on the admissions

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 11:03 AM

I can tell you that every word you posted, save the "a buddy of mine that works for Clemson.." is 100% false and, quite frankly, laughable.

Gold, Jerry, Gold!!

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 11:06 AM

Shut up coot. You can believe what you want but why would a guy choose a doormat program over schools like Clemson and Alabama. I can assure you everything I posted is 100% fact

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 11:13 AM

LOL...I don't "believe" anything...I "know".

Two things:

1. If you really believe that he "couldn't/wouldn't" get into Clemson then you're just fooling yourself and, honestly, your administration needs to be fired. He's no Nobel Laureate but his grades were ok.

2. Even more laughable is that Saban flat out told him "no". I usually don't hurl insults on a board but if you *really* believe that you have zero clue about the world of college athletics.

So the new line on Clowney is he's "stupid". Nice.

BTW...if you really want to know he had decided earlier on in the process and during his last visit he spent the entire time with Marcus Lattimore and made his commitment then. The only reason he waited was for the impact. Period.

I can promise you if he wanted to get into Clemson he would get in.

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That line isn't new. Despite his "grades," Clowney is illiterate***


Dec 22, 2012, 8:25 AM



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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 1:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Clowney ]

and i can assure you that every word you posted is total bs.

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No its all true...youre just a hater who dont want to admit


Dec 20, 2012, 11:06 AM [ in reply to Re: Clowney ]

that USuC was last choice...graduation rate says it all...anyone can go to school there...

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well that sux...could've used him this year***


Dec 20, 2012, 11:12 AM



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"A buddy of mine"


Dec 20, 2012, 11:13 AM

Most times the phrase "A buddy of mine" is used int a post it is most likely false. I do think he was thinking about Clemson, but it didn't happen.

Also, do Coots care more about football wins or graduation rates? You tell me! I like a winning football team that actually graduates players.

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Re: "A buddy of mine"


Dec 20, 2012, 11:17 AM

Players want to get the hell out if cootlumbia after 3 years even if they don't project to be drafted and could use another year. Can you blame them??? Our players want to stay 4 years even if they project to go -st round after 3 ( spiller, etc). Clowney has already declared for next year. He would be a 4 year player here.

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Spiller, etc? couldn't think of others. Bowers,Boyd


Dec 20, 2012, 11:27 AM

Harper, Allen

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Re: Spiller, etc? couldn't think of others. Bowers,Boyd


Dec 21, 2012, 8:34 PM

The Bank of IPTAY pay better than NFL.

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Re: "A buddy of mine"


Dec 20, 2012, 2:59 PM [ in reply to Re: "A buddy of mine" ]

If you think Clowney would be a four year player at ANY school in the entire country, you're high. He's gone after three anywhere. Hell, he could have gone after his freshman year had he been eligible.

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Re: "A buddy of mine"


Dec 20, 2012, 11:33 PM [ in reply to Re: "A buddy of mine" ]

tells me bowers still loves clemson when back in south carolina he spends more time in clemson that back in bamberg

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Re: "A buddy of mine"


Dec 21, 2012, 2:22 AM [ in reply to Re: "A buddy of mine" ]

"Players want to get the #### out if cootlumbia after 3 years even if they don't project to be drafted and could use another year. Can you blame them??? Our players want to stay 4 years even if they project to go -st round after 3 ( spiller, etc). Clowney has already declared for next year. He would be a 4 year player here".

IPTAY pays better than a rookie NFL contract

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Re: "A buddy of mine"


Dec 21, 2012, 10:30 PM [ in reply to "A buddy of mine" ]

For the 2012 report, Carolina graduated 55%, Clemson 62%. Neither is anything to write home about.

http://stanford.scout.com/2/1183346.html

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Re: Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 11:15 AM

It very well could be true. My father is an English teacher at South Pointe High. He had Clowney for English. He barely passed.

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I can verify that it's true


Dec 20, 2012, 11:26 AM

Before the 2011 game, on the field in warm ups, Clowney told one of our staff that he wished "he could have gone to Clemson". This is from a very credible source on the Clemson staff. Just can't reveal his name because I don't think that would be fair to him.

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I heard he's going to transfer to Clemson after the bowl


Dec 20, 2012, 11:28 AM

game.

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Yeah it was something about going the juco rt to Clemson***


Dec 20, 2012, 12:04 PM



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Re: I heard he's going to transfer to Clemson after the bowl


Dec 20, 2012, 11:30 AM

Don't know where you heard that, but no..

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heck no


Dec 20, 2012, 11:34 AM

Did you just say bama said no? then it looks like we're keeping up with the bama's of the world.

Just proof again that Clemson is better than coot U

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 11:57 AM

Bills-

I think your entire post lost credibility when you said Saban told him "no". There is no way that happened. Why would Saban make an in-home visit only to tell the kid "no" after the kid decides to commit?

Bama runs a 3 man front and that did not fit Clowney's style of a rush end - he's not a big beefy lineman and he's not a linebacker, he's a true DE that wants to get after the qb. At Bama he likely would've have played standing up, which is not his preference. SCAR runs a 4-3 and that worked in SCAR's favor.

With regard to his academics, I have no idea, but I really wish some on here would refrain from the "stupid" and "can't read" comments. Are these things you would say to that person face to face?

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Re: Clowney


Dec 21, 2012, 10:17 PM

I seriously doubt any of this is true. I don't think the poster is lying, just misinformed. Seems I remember reading the recruiting on him and he was always pretty steady with USC. However, whether this post is true or not, he sure looked like he hated Clemson last month.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 12:22 PM

I hate it when coots come here and try to defend their team but even with that I will call BS on this. Clowney had 3 hats on the table....he had his mind made up all along and the Clemson flirt was just to mess with our fan bases head. It worked....we were fooled for a while. The guy is a monster on the field and I will give him his due respect. I have also seen him interviewed many times and he is no dummy. He will be a millionaire after next season and we will all look like the "dummies". I had hoped he came here but he didn't. These kids are still the same kids no matter where they attend. Your sons or daughters choose the schools of their choice based on their needs or desires so why can't athletes be afforded the same luxury ? If someone said your kid was an idiot because he picked another school and you would be ready to fight. These kids are NO different from your kids. It's their life and their choice....get over it. The great ones will pick Clemson sometimes and sometimes they won't. They are still great players or kids until proven otherwise.

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Good Post


Dec 20, 2012, 12:56 PM

...this thread is so full of comedy it's ridiculous...especially the one where JD told a Clemson coach "he wished he could have come to Clemson" during on field warm-ups.

I feel the same way about Sammy Watkins...would love to have the kid on my team and, right now, we'll take any linebacker you want to give us lol.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 22, 2012, 9:37 AM [ in reply to Re: Clowney ]

Excellent remarks.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 22, 2012, 10:27 AM [ in reply to Re: Clowney ]

TigerLow for the common sense win! It's a shame, when both schools' fan bases talk about things they "know" and are so blinded by pulling for his or her respective team, that all logic, sensibility, and reason goes out the window.

Kudos, TigerLow

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Re: ClowneyThe truth is,He was told by CU coaches


Dec 20, 2012, 1:05 PM

that he'd have to attend prep school, before 5pm the very next day he committed to Ellis Johnson on the phone. The presser the following week(actually 2-3 days) on Valentines day was just a formality by then.


Those are the facts, people not liking them ? Can't handle the truth.


There is truth in the OP statement is, that until Clemson starts letting "ATHLETES" in that meet the NCAA minimum , we will not compete at the highest level. I'm talking about athletes here, letting them in will not diminish anyone's degree.

You want to compete that's what you'll have to do. We are already competing with schools on roids and schools that practice OVERSIGNING. I'm sure these are 2 things , we as CU fans never want to see happen. But 2 things that need to be done are Junior College transfers and admitting ATHLETES that meet the NCAA minimum.


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Re: ClowneyThe truth is,He was told by CU coaches


Dec 20, 2012, 1:12 PM

So you are a Clemson coach ???? Which one and if not please tell us all where we can verify this important piece information regarding Clowney.I am sure it can be verified right ? No...it is a bunch of BS. I HATE he went to cootville but he did....give it a rest !

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Re: ClowneyThe truth is,He was told by CU coaches


Dec 22, 2012, 10:29 AM [ in reply to Re: ClowneyThe truth is,He was told by CU coaches ]

please prove these "facts"

Show us where they asked him to attend prep school? If not, you're just as (non) credible as these others with "a buddy" in the know.

Wake us up when you have something other than conjecture.

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Re: Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 1:27 PM

The Scar fan on here just cant stand it. Wake up idiot! Who in there right mind would want to go play in the middle of a bunch of mills for a coach who will throw you under the wheels as soon as one comes off! This happens every year, a guy cant get into clemson after being very serious about coming here. Ive heard the same thing about Julius Peppers from someone who played at clemson during that time. And the new knock on clowney is hes dumb?? New?? He didnt forget how to read and write over night, that label has always been stuck on him. And i can believe saban said no, clowney admitted himself in an interview that in the beginning he was uncoachable, saban probably didnt want to put up with any of it

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Re: Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 1:34 PM

Sad that a fellow who is a "dummy" will make more money in one swipe of then pen than all here would make in 10 lifetimes.

To all those perpertrating the "Clowney couldn't get into Clemson" BS, you just need to stop. You are embarassing the portion of your fanbase that actually has some dignity and common sense.

As far as Clowney staying 4 years at Clemson.....all I can say is you know absolutely nothing about college football. It is reported that if eligible Clowney would have been a Top 5 pick out of high school. If he would have been eligible this year he would have been the consensus #1 overall. Barring a catasrophic event he will be the #1 overall next year. There is NO reason why he would have stayed 4 years at ANY school.

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Re: Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 2:03 PM [ in reply to Re: Re: Clowney ]

wait so Julius Pepers couldn't get into Clemson, so he went to UNC?? Last I checked UNC was one of the single most prestigious public academic schools in the country....and remember this was long before all the fraud came out

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Peppers wasn't the only one.


Dec 20, 2012, 3:04 PM

Someone else on the board could help with the names, as I am blank about that right now, but there were 2 during Bowden's tenure that were denied admission to CU and then went to UNC. Bowden made a big stink about it at the time because both met the NCAA minimum requirements but not Barker's.

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Dwight Jones !! *****


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Re: Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 5:53 PM [ in reply to Re: Re: Clowney ]

Don't know about Peppers but it is a fact Dwight Jones was denied admission at Clemson but was admitted to UNC.

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same draft where cam went no. 1?***


Dec 20, 2012, 1:43 PM



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If that helps you sleep at night...


Dec 20, 2012, 2:18 PM

keep on believing in that myth.

Clemson and South Carolina have identical admission standards for student athletes. The ACC and the SEC have identical admission standards for student athletes. Clowney would have been admitted at any school that allows athletes to enroll who meet minimum NCAA admission standards.

I have challenged many posters over the years to provide me with a link that says that Clemson requires higher standards for admission of student athletes than South Carolina. I have yet to be provided one.

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Re: If that helps you sleep at night...


Dec 20, 2012, 3:02 PM

Looks like you still won't.....

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how bout this one...


Dec 20, 2012, 4:03 PM [ in reply to If that helps you sleep at night... ]

When asked to compare the admissions process at USC and Clemson, Associate AD Val Sheley said, “I really can’t because I have not compared the two in detail. From what I can see in the press, they may have been able to get kids in that we can’t get in, even though their regular admissions standards appear to be higher than ours. But again, that’s at the individual institution's discretion how they go about making exceptions.

oopppsss.... that is not the answer they wanted here. That doesn't help explain why they can't beat a real football team that is not part of the acc excuse conference.....

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Re: Re: Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 2:46 PM

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=8287030

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if i'm not mistaken his statement read that Clowney called


Dec 20, 2012, 3:45 PM

Saban and Clowney told him flat out "no".. not that Saban told him no. Ya'll need to read using common sense. And yes it would be believable that Clowney would try his best not to make that wretched place his home as opposed Clemson. Just know he's no coot at heart its more of a formality...

On another note..i'm guessing Bowden just made that stuff up about the BOT standards strangling some of our recruiting efforts. As a NCAA participant Clemson doesn't have to have higher academic standards but our BOT does have a guideline that they stick by. I'm not sure if it is a strict now because of all the commotion it stirred up the year Bowden complained but they still review all borderline applicants adn I wouldn't be surprised if this was in fact the case...

And if you think a private committee is going to publish their guidelines, which I am sure is purely subjective, you can keep dreaming.

Its the same process that certain departments use in selecting the admissions of students into their programs. For instance when I got accepted into Clemson for my major they said we were the 30 that were selected from over 200 applications. Which is an act of God that I got in....still can't figure that one out. Which at the time Barker was dean of our department, before he was president. So i'm sure they do the same for the students who are borderline qualifiers for the football team.

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Re: if i'm not mistaken his statement read that Clowney called


Dec 21, 2012, 2:08 PM

> Saban and Clowney told him flat out "no".. not
> that Saban told him no. Ya'll need to read using common sense.

You need to use some reading comprehension. Here's the actual wording: "The day he was denied admission, he called nick saban and Saban told him flat out no." Is that really open to misinterpretation?

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Re: if i'm not mistaken his statement read that Clowney called


Dec 21, 2012, 2:09 PM

are you drunk? lol

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you people are in la la land looking for excuses for 4peat..


Dec 20, 2012, 3:51 PM

this whole myth that you guys have some elevated standards. Easy to find multiple articles. here are a few excerpts from some articles found with a quick google...

Some "universal truths," according to the Journal-Constitution:

"Many schools routinely used a special admissions process to admit athletes who did not meet the normal entrance requirements. More than half of scholarship athletes at the University of Georgia, the University of Wisconsin, Clemson University, UCLA, Rutgers University, Texas A&M University and Louisiana State University were special admits. . . "

More than 1/2 your athletes are special admits?...wow..

ATHLETES LACK GRADES AND TEST SCORES OF OTHER STUDENTS
Critics of big-time sports say that the gap at many Division I universities is too large

By Jim Naughton

The average athlete on a top college football or men's basketball team enters college in the bottom quarter of his class.

That conclusion comes from a comparison of high-school grade-point averages and average scores on college entrance examinations of football and men's basketball players on teams that finished in the top 25 in 1996-97 with those of freshmen who entered the same institutions in September 1996.

The data on athletes came from the National Collegiate Athletic Association. The information on the freshmen was provided by the institutions and published in the 1998 edition of The College Catalog, by Kaplan Educational Centers.

Basketball players who enrolled at Providence College had the lowest average G.P.A.'s among the group, at 2.32, while those at Clemson University had the lowest average ACT score, 17.3, and those at Xavier University of Ohio had the lowest combined SAT average, 763. Wow, lowest Clemson had the lowest ACT scores of any school in top 25 that year.

And Another...

“As previously stated, USC requires 19 core courses including a lab science, along with the core GPA and test scores,” Sheley said. "The NCAA required 14, with 16 for the student-athletes initially enrolling in the fall 2008. Now if you’re a South Carolina high school graduate you should have the lab science because it is required for graduation. But many of our out-of-state and foreign kids don’t have it, because it’s not required for graduation. So now they’re a Special Admit.”

South Carolina has recently changed their student-athlete admissions process. USC coaches were having difficulty getting students admitted at times, yet those same students were reportedly able to be admitted to Clemson, Georgia, and other schools. When asked to compare the admissions process at USC and Clemson, Sheley said, “I really can’t because I have not compared the two in detail. From what I can see in the press, they may have been able to get kids in that we can’t get in, even though their regular admissions standards appear to be higher than ours. But again, that’s at the individual institution's discretion how they go about making exceptions. That’s the same for every institution; I guarantee that every school does bring in exceptions.

You guys are really reaching. Where are the terrible pictures from that guy that said he took pictures of Clowney doing all those things on the sidelines. Did not exist I guess. Getting it handed to you 4 years in a row is really making you guys reach for some rationalization, and your are reaching tooo far. Just beat us on the field and shut up. Tired of hearing we are too mean, we let in guys you can't, we win at all cost (81 championship is a good example of that)

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touchy subject i'm guessing for you all


Dec 20, 2012, 4:44 PM

you do know that no amount of wins in a row will ever put you ahead of Clemson in the eye of America, right? you'll always be the ghetto school of SC.

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Because Clemson is so nationally relevant right?***


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Re: Because Clemson is so nationally relevant right?***


Dec 21, 2012, 9:52 AM

Because Clemson is so nationally relevant right?***

I have to say you were wrong on this one JustLooking.......I see their defense getting laughed at and degraded quite frequently on the national level.

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Re: touchy subject i'm guessing for you all


Dec 22, 2012, 10:38 AM [ in reply to touchy subject i'm guessing for you all ]

Why so angry? Oh yeah, 4 years in a row of getting bashed by the "ghetto" school. Grow up.

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Re: you people are in la la land looking for excuses for 4peat..


Dec 20, 2012, 5:59 PM [ in reply to you people are in la la land looking for excuses for 4peat.. ]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2968224

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it is true.... i regularly play poker w/


Dec 20, 2012, 3:51 PM

...Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, and Santa said that Clowney had on his list that he wanted to go to Clemson, but there was nothing he could do.... Easter Bunny said JD prefers the yellow Peeps.

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Cool story bro, you have quite the imagination***


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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 8:28 PM

A Clowney away eh,,,ha ha ha I don't care who you are that's funny stuff there

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I'm sorry, but that's absurd


Dec 20, 2012, 9:47 PM

I'm Clemson through and through (hopefully graduating in May), but not one program across the country would turn down Clowney, regardless of academic issues. Dabo wouldn't say no, Saban wouldn't say no.

I think the truth of that whole debacle was that Clowney loved the attention and was trying to stir things up. He knew for a long time he was going to USCjr.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 10:12 PM

I'll bet you $1,000(or whatever amount you want)that what your source told you is false.

You apparently know absolutely nothing about how "football players" get into Clemson or any other major college program for that matter. If they are eligible according to the NCAA then they can get in if the coaches want them.

The athletic department has plenty of special exceptions they can use.

Trust me if Daquan Bowers could get in, they could get Clowney in.

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Wrong on Bowers ##########, right on Sapp***


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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 10:23 PM

Ha ha ha ha! That is funny. Let me guess... Your buddy has friends close to the program.

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Still laughing


Dec 20, 2012, 10:31 PM

If admissions denied Clowney then the whole department should be fired. Not even Duke would have turned a player most believed was the best high school defensive end they had ever seen. And why would a kid who wanted to go Clemson be declaring he will never lose to the Tigers. This is so FUNNY!

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Re: Clowney


Dec 20, 2012, 10:52 PM

Real Story:

Clowney never seriously considered Clemson. Looked at out of state schools like LSU and Bama early on, but ultimately because he wanted to stay close to home and because of the situation with his father, he decided to stay in state. South Carolina had put together a few decent seasons and had a good DL coach that could prepare him for the NFL, so it was a decent fit.

A few weeks before his announcement, the Clemson staff convinces Clowney to take a visit. It goes ok, and Clowney's mom loves it, but Clowney just does not like Dabo Swinney or the town of Clemson. The reality is four of his friends were playing for USC, while none were at Clemson. As he said in the press conference "I wanna play with them." This should not be overlooked.

Basically there was never any chance of him going to Clemson. Early on, Dabo made a bad impression on Clowney for whatever reason. Clowney really does not/did not like him. The only reason Clemson became a factor is because of his mother and because Clowney wanted to create suspense.

This was all decided over at least a week and a half in advance. My roommate is good friends with Lattimore and had two classes with him in Spring 2011. One day after class he asks Lattimore what the story was and Lattimore shows him a text from Clowney about the Clemson visit that read "Hell no. I'm just foolin with them. You know ill be in cola"

Believe what you want, blast me, call me a coot, etc but the reality is Clowney never had any interest in Clemson.

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Dude, PLEASE let this thread die..


Dec 20, 2012, 11:07 PM

Congratulations on being a student @ the same school that won such a fine young football player. Speaking of who does not/did not like whom, I often question why anybody from a rival faction would ever make a habit of posting somewhere they're not really liked. Please stop trying to give us the cooties. <3

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Re: Clowney


Dec 21, 2012, 6:43 AM

Ha! He still has the little "All In" token that Dabo gave him on his recruiting trip and laughs about it. Dabo begged him to sign with Clemson which was very smart on Dabo's part. The kid is a complete beast and the best prospect to ever come out of the state bottom line.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 21, 2012, 12:57 PM

So Clemson wasnt going to let the best recruit in 20 years into school, but they let sammy watkins in, who can barely read his own name...Right...Butt hurt is crazy. It was two years ago get over it.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 21, 2012, 10:23 PM

If believing this nonsense makes you feel better, then I say go for it. However, a Knight Commission report lists Clemson among a group of schools with over 50% of their athletes admitted as special admissions. Before you go find an article citing Carolina's athletic admissions, I freely admit that (like every other school playing high level division I sports)Carolina makes special admissions. But then I'm not the one pointing the finger at my most intense rival and claiming that their best player wouldn't have gotten into my school. Clowney didn't attend Clemson because he preferred Carolina; simple as that.

http://www.knightcommission.org/academic-integrity/academic-integrity-news/246-december-29-2008-college-athletes-score-low-on-sat-scores

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Re: Clowney


Dec 22, 2012, 12:12 AM

For the record, "special admissions" means they wouldn't have got in if they didn't play football. That doesn't mean they were non-qualifiers that got snuck into school. But I see what you are saying.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 22, 2012, 8:31 AM

No, actually "Special Admissions" means that the student did not meets the admission requirements of the specific program. At all Universities, there are many non athletes who receive special admissions due to many different reasons. Sometimes, it because thier Daddy is rich, or important. It is also important to note that different programs within the same University often have different admission standards.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 22, 2012, 8:55 AM [ in reply to Re: Clowney ]

And Clowney was full qualified; he would just have been a special admission which CU, Carolina and every other school playing big time college football clearly allows. That Clowney was denied admission to CU or Bama is beyond absurd.

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This is the best thread ever!!!!


Dec 21, 2012, 11:02 PM

My index finger is going to be sore from clicking the ignore button so much.

Thanks for the happy hunting ground.

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Re: Clowney


Dec 22, 2012, 12:11 AM

I'm a Clemson fan and this is just flat out stupid, I'm sorry. I don't believe anything in the original post. There's no way Clowney didn't get into Clemson, the guy isn't a genius but he's smart enough to get into every school with minimum NCAA standards. And there's no way in #### that Nick Saban said "no, thanks" to possibly the best high school recruit since Herschel Walker, and maybe the best high school defensive recruit in the modern era. That didn't happen.

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He wanted to play in the SEC.


Dec 22, 2012, 6:55 AM

Clowney wanted to stay close to home and play in the SEC. South Carolina was the obvious choice. Just like the guy with the difficult name who commetted to us, he also wanted to play in the SEC s he decommitted. It will be hard from here on out to get good defensive players cause the best want to play in the SEC.

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I know this for a fact.


Dec 22, 2012, 9:45 AM

Clooney had a q.e.d. GPA out of high school

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I know this for a fact.


Dec 22, 2012, 9:46 AM

Clooney had a 1.4 gpa out of high school

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psyche:***


Dec 22, 2012, 9:56 AM



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Re: psyche:***


Dec 22, 2012, 9:57 AM

guy told me that that went to school with him

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Re: psyche:***


Dec 22, 2012, 10:02 AM

kinda reminds me of bobby boucher in waterboy

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Re: psyche:***


Dec 22, 2012, 2:04 PM

I like how everyone's hiding behind Clemson's "esteemed" academics. 1.4 GPA < 4.5 sacks vs. your rival.

Why so much Clowney talk? Because you're jealous? Wished he wouldn't have disrupted Boyd so much that it caused another loss in a row?

Hilarious how everyone on here (and based on a lot of the grammar, really ironic) is touting academics on the FOOTBALL message board.

It must hurt to be a Clemson fan, resorting to name calling and saying a kid's a dunce. Be happy, you won a bunch of games this year. It had to be fun beating the BCs, Marylands, and Wake Forests of the world.

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His announcement was pushed back for attention seeking...


Dec 22, 2012, 4:16 PM

nothing else. Everybody knew he was going to sign with the coots.

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hmmm.all I can say is


Dec 22, 2012, 7:06 PM

I guess we know how you felt for many years , clucky. Doensnt it feel good to actually win ? Only yours will be a shorter ride.

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You guys are like Fox News. You believe


Dec 22, 2012, 8:01 PM

Your own BS. Sad.

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