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CFB Defense By Conference! Kind Of Telling!
Dec 31, 2020, 12:23 AM
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Did any of you notice the total defense chart put up during the Florida vs. Oklahoma game? I hadn't paid much attention to it since about week 4. During week 4 the SEC was "dead last" as a conference. One could say, "yeah, but that's going against all these powerful offenses"! Ah, "scuse me", besides Alabama and Florida what powerful offenses?
The Big 12 during week 4 was dog on 1st. "WHAT"!!!!!!
The analyst went on to talk about how the narrative in the Big 12 was: "they don't play defense"! In the SEC it's, "the offenses are so good"! Classic tale of: "trying to have it both ways"!
When you think about some of the teams outside of Florida and Alabama is "powerful offense" something you think of? For that matter outside of Georgia, "do you think awesome defense either"?
I am not saying it will happen at all. But, in 2018 the "then referred to by 3 - 5 analyst and talking heads that cover CFB, Alabama was called the greatest team ever! More specific, the greatest offense ever because they were beating "SEC DEFENSES BY AN AVERAGE MARGIN OF 30.7 ppg that season"! Hmmm! They might be that outstanding, like LSU was last year or they are more of the 2018 variety where they got a bunch of props for facing vastly "overrated defenses"!
If you recall that greatest offense ever in CFB only managed 16 points against an ACC defense!
***Note*** read all. I admit this years Alabama may be different. LSU was different though they too played in the sleazy eazy conference! Bama has great players!
I know the Florida opt outs on offense; did they announce opt outs on defense too? I don't recall hearing those. Oklahoma struggled in some of their games. Rattler got benched in a game. IDK what any of this means, "if it even means anything at all"! But for me, I can't help but think the way people "even on TNET" value how well "ALL" and I mean "ALL" SEC defenses are supposed to be - it adds more CREDIBILITY to good offensive performance! That's also in a smaller part why 3 of the 4 Heisman Finalist are from the SEC. I know Oklahoma QB's have racked up Heisman's too. But, I wonder if they still would be? Given that these video game numbers are now starting to happen in the SEC where "perception has it" the best defenses play? I.M.O - I don't think they would! Voters would give the SEC QB the advantage over having done it against perceived "better defenses"! What do you think?
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Re: CFB Defense By Conference! Kind Of Telling!
Dec 31, 2020, 7:25 AM
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OSU is even lower in ST - near the bottom!
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Re: CFB Defense By Conference! Kind Of Telling!
Dec 31, 2020, 12:37 PM
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Love how Stoops always called it out. Until recently they had done and still do in my opinion - a poor job of developing QB's(as a conference).
Burrow was developed at Ohio State - and he benefitted from Joe Brady! Trask will be a good NFL QB. D. Prescott surprised me at how well he has become in the NFL. Matthew Stafford has been a solid QB in the league. Of course you had Peyton Manning and Eli Manning for years holding the banner!
Then, who?
Just Nan-C-State right now has: Russell Wilson, Mike Glennon, Ryan Finley, Phillip Rivers and Jacoby Brisett all on NFL rosters "right now"! And have been for years now.
Deshaun Watson. Mitch Trubisky. Matt Ryan. Lamar Jackson. Daniel Jones. Tyrod Taylor ETC.
**When you throw in Big 12 and Pac 12 QB's it dwarfs ye olde mighty SEC. Who as Stoops was saying years ago - was playing catch up offensively! Now, yes, they had teams that won championships using that 3 yards and a cloud of dust! No doubt. And behind that was a defense that basically had time to rest because typically the offense held the ball so long! It's a known successful formula. I get that. So, why the change? Why have the best SEC teams all of a sudden found a passing game?
For one: Trask was a transfer from another school. Burrow was a transfer from another school. Tua is just a great player who benefitted from a forward thinking offense and having a bunch of 4 and 5 star players to work with. Cam Newton not mentioned earlier - was a transfer albeit from one sec school to another - benefitted from going to Blinn Junior College and being coached up 1st. And, being in a system that was ahead of the curve with Malzahn. Saban knew he needed to update his offense after seeing what up tempo could do from Clemson and Auburn. He faced the probability of one day losing WR recruits who wanted to play in a more open system - so he had to adapt.
Have SEC defenses adapted along with it though? They still looking for the off tackle on 1st and 2nd down I think. https://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/bob-stoops-rips-sec-defense/205981Bob Stoops rips SEC's defense Bob Stoops ripped the SEC for being overrated defensively now that there are good quarterbacks in the conference who are lighting up scoreboards.
It's funny how those great defenses aren't as great when it's not going to be a run off left or right tackle then a pop pass to the TE out of a 21 personnel formation.
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