Re: Can someone please help me understand why so many people are voting for Trump

For someone who allegedly doesn’t care about his constituents, Trump has nevertheless won passionate support by millions because of what he had done and what he sincerely tried to do.

Border: Trump did more to try and close the border to illegal immigration than any president since … ever. Despite being blocked again and again on the border wall by RINOs and Democrats, his ‘remain in Mexico’ policy and getting Mexico to rigorously enforce the border … at Mexico’s expense … was the most effective border policy since illegal immigration via Mexico had morphed from seasonal migration (for agricultural workers) to permanent migrants (I.e., voters for the Democrat party).

Fair trade via, among other factors, meaningful tariffs on imports from P.R.China helped to stem the tide of ‘off-shoring’ of American industries. Aside from helping to preserve the economies of several Midwestern states, this move helped the country to recognize the threat to our national security when we become overly dependent on foreign exports for crucial products.

Christians correctly recognized the government’s soft assault on Christianity and Christian values. DEI laws and soft coercion of private companies to force DEI hiring / promotions on their personnel policies and their marketing programs are rightly viewed by Christians as corrosive to American values of hard work and merit based rewards. This is a long topic, so I’ll keep this response short and use it as bait to trigger the TDS crowd. Suffice it to say that Trump supporters recognized Trump’s unambiguous support of policies which are not antithetical to traditional American values.

Thus, for the limited subset of Americans which were positively affected by Trump and negatively impacted by Obama & Biden, the ‘border worriers,’ ‘America first,’ and Christians, respectively, believe they are justified in having Trump’s philosophical + kinetic support has earned their support in return.

Actions vs Speculation (I.e., TDS crowd ruminations about what they want to believe is going on inside Trump’s head).

Action wins. TDS’ers lose.

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The problem (with immigration especially)...

Mar 4, 2024, 1:20 PM

is he didn't actually fix anything.

With immigration/border security, just about everything he did was via EO's and, as we have unfortunately seen, they can be easily changed by subsequent administrations. He left after 4 years with no substantial changes to the immigration law or border security.

The one attempt at making lasting change was the very poorly structured RAISE act, which was as much about cutting legal immigration as it was about curbing illegal immigration.

Trump's big campaign pledge was to build a wall on the Southern border and have Mexico pay for it. After 4 yrs, neither happened.

And, please understand, I fully support building more enhanced border wall/fence/security. Trump had party control of both houses of Congress his first 2 years and didn't get it done.

And this is one of the biggest problems I had with Trump's presidency...he wasn't a leader...he wasn't a persuader...he thrived (as still does) on separating and pitting sides against each other. That works to incent both sides of an issue versus making a real case and selling it to the people.

Fair Trade...

He started a trade war with China that accomplished very little outside of feeding inflation. It did not meaningfully slow off-shoring. What it did do is create price hikes...especially in steel. He announced the initial national security tariffs seemingly out of nowhere. The steel industry wasn't ready and US manufacturers weren't ready. Overnight the price of steel jumped 15% plus an import tariff of 25%, for a net adder of +40%. For my company, there is only 1 US manufacturer of the type of steel we use and they already didn't have any more capacity. So, all that happened is our cost of steel went up 40% and the companies we compete with out of Mexico and Canada only saw the raw commodity increase of 15%. Thanks Trump. Years later...the situation is EXACTLY the same...only we have tariffs on all kinds of other things we can't source well out of the US. And, of course, China imposed like-for-like tariffs on US goods, hurting US companies ability to export their product to China.

I was wholly opposed to it, but the Inflation Reduction Act and the infrastructure laws passed under Biden are having a much larger impact on moving manufacturing back to the US due to the Buy America and Buy American aspects of the requirements. Which are a total PITA, but is forcing us to tool up suppliers in the US and pay 4-5 times as much for material to comply with the acts. It remains to be seen if we'll get a selling price high enough to make it make sense...but it dang sure isn't going to reduce inflation.

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Can someone please help me understand why so many people are voting for Trump