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Honestly, Helms
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:04 PM
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Has a better pocket presence than Cade and appears to make better adjustments at the line. Also is more composed.
Am I crazy to think he needs to get 1st team snaps? Cade is the better runner but we don't appear to game plan for designed QB runs...
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Re: Honestly, Helms
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:04 PM
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I agree
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Re: Honestly, Helms
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:06 PM
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Every time he's gone into the game, we've moved the ball right down the field with little resistance...
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Cade has looked better tonight, but he doesnt have the poise Helms does.***
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:07 PM
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Re: Cade has looked better tonight, but he doesnt have the poise Helms does.***
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:09 PM
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Brown-L has no poise in the NIT.
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Re: Cade has looked better tonight, but he doesnt have the poise Helms does.***
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:17 PM
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Lol
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Re: Cade has looked better tonight, but he doesnt have the poise Helms does.***
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:12 PM
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This is the take despite folks not liking Judge's opinion.
That poise is linked to being in the program for a while and personality.
CK2 will get there with time and more reps. This game was the most comfortable I've seen him this year.
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I agree, Cade will get there.***
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:15 PM
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Re: Cade has looked better tonight, but he doesnt have the poise Helms does.***
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Sep 17, 2023, 12:50 AM
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Re: Honestly, Helms
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:08 PM
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He looked good on that last drive. Looked in command and not confused
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Re: Honestly, Helms
Sep 16, 2023, 11:09 PM
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I’ve said that in other threads.
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Helms is a good QB
Sep 16, 2023, 11:09 PM
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But CK2 gives you the full duel QB aspect.
I think they are closer than coaches let on but definitely think CK2 has the higher ceiling.
That said, he's a great change up if CK2 is having a bad night.
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Re: Honestly, Helms He has quicker release***
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:11 PM
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Re: Honestly, Helms He has quicker release***
Sep 16, 2023, 11:13 PM
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This is the big thing I’ve noticed. Cade seems slower to release and doesn’t throw as tight of a ball.
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Re: Honestly, Helms
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:12 PM
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People always love the backup QB
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Re: Honestly, Helms
Sep 16, 2023, 11:14 PM
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Right? He is playing against 3rd string, but he looks good
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Re: Honestly, Helms
Sep 16, 2023, 11:16 PM
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It's always the most ludicrous takes when the backup starts dominating against non scholarship players.
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Its not surprising considering that our starting QB hasnt dominated much at all.***
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Sep 17, 2023, 12:51 AM
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Re: Its not surprising considering that our starting QB hasnt dominated much at all.***
Sep 17, 2023, 1:59 AM
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Just 60% of his starts - it’s a terrible start.
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Every time we have seen both, Helms looks better
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Sep 16, 2023, 11:15 PM
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In the Spring game I think we all saw it.
Cade is faster but Helms seems to be the overall better QB.
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Re: Every time we have seen both, Helms looks better
Sep 16, 2023, 11:17 PM
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I think we ought to try rotating QB's. That would keep the defense guessing.
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Re: Every time we have seen both, Helms looks better
Sep 16, 2023, 11:18 PM
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It's worked excellently for Alabama so far. That's how they beat South Florida by 14 whole points.
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Re: Every time we have seen both, Helms looks better
Sep 16, 2023, 11:22 PM
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In the Spring game I think we all saw it.
Cade is faster but Helms seems to be the overall better QB.
Agreed! More than anything no matter who you are playing against; there are still some things that are true "no matter what"! What some of the most recent National Championship-winning QBs had that you can't teach is "Poise In The Moment"!
If not for the fact Cade is a highly decorated QB from a fertile recruiting state like Texas - "I think you might actually see Hunter Helms" take 1st team reps. The quicker more decisive decision-making is clear and evident. P.S. I think Helms is good enough to move the chains. We don't need him to take it to the house; that's what we have Ship and Mafah and the WR and TE's for.
I am fully confident with Hunter Helms as our QB2. I think he could be QB1 honestly; if needed.
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Re: Every time we have seen both, Helms looks better
Sep 17, 2023, 12:49 AM
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You are grasping at straws. It's the classic "back up quarterback is better" deal. Helms has not played any meaningful snaps at all. Somehow now Helms is the better quarterback because looked better in the spring game. This is just like last year when everybody said Klubnik was better than Uiagalelei. Now Helms is better than Klubnik.
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Against FSU it wold be a great move to have him
Sep 16, 2023, 11:36 PM
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Start fist 2 series
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Re: Honestly, Helms
Sep 17, 2023, 12:18 AM
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It's easy when the game is out of hand. I like Helms but we will probably never know how good he is when it matters.
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