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Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 3:51 PM
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There is another thread about his public speaking ability.
For you folks old enough to remember the 1990s, I'll make this comparison.
Wes is far better behind a microphone than Mickey Andrews ever thought about being. Mickey's lack of public persona probably cost him at least a couple of opportunities to be a head coach. He didn't look like a head coach. (Neither does Wes.) He didn't sound like a head coach. (Neither does Wes.)
But from my biased perspective Mickey Andrews was the best DC in the history of college football. FSU was not a top ten team until Mickey arrived. After being there a few years FSU finished in the top 4 in the final polls for 14 straight years. Bobby never would have had the success he had without Mickey. And, Bobby would be the first one to tell you that.
Look at it this way. If Clemson wins 3 national championships in the next 5 years, schools probably won't be beating down the doors to hire Wes because he doesn't "fit the mold." His lack of "head coach persona" may be a blessing to Clemson.
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Re: Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 3:57 PM
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The other thread was started by a coot troll. But good point about Andrews who was legendary!
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BRET..you right about Mickey!
Dec 28, 2022, 3:59 PM
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and not only Bobby But Danny would agree too.
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Re: BRET..you right about Mickey!
Dec 28, 2022, 6:55 PM
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You're right, Bret. Bud Foster (VA Tech) was a distant 2nd.
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Re: Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Didn't see it and glad I didn't. Idc if he gets up there, picks his nose, farts, whatever as long as he can coach and bring in the Jimmy and Joes. Even Karen if she can play.
Speaking of which, Eason needs a big fat raise for his recruiting.
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Re: Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 3:59 PM
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Mickey was set to become our coach after Hatfield. He was ready to board the plane when we inexplicably hired West.
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I remember seeing Mickey on the sidelines. Chew, chew, chew
Dec 28, 2022, 4:00 PM
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Spit. Chew, chew, chew, spit (repeat)
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Re: I remember seeing Mickey on the sidelines. Chew, chew, chew
Dec 28, 2022, 6:06 PM
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Did he actually spit, I never seen him spit!!!
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Oculus Spirit [80374]
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I remember when Andrews coached for Danny Ford.
Dec 28, 2022, 4:01 PM
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Hated to see him leave.
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Re: Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 4:34 PM
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There is so much more to being a head coach than just coaching the football team.
I hope you re right about Wes. I think he is gonna grow into a good one.
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Don’t care. If he can’t make the defense elite next season
Dec 28, 2022, 4:55 PM
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He has to go
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Re: Don’t care. If he can’t make the defense elite next season
Dec 28, 2022, 5:12 PM
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Well, that's a little harsh but, if tge boys come back that we're hoping, I might have to agree if he's not top 10 in every defense stat. My goodness, we would be not 2 deep but 3 deep.
Agree with everyone on the thread, MIckey was the best and I think Wes will grow into a good one. Different from calling plays and analyzing them.
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Re: Don’t care. If he can’t make the defense elite next season
Dec 28, 2022, 5:47 PM
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Tend to agree. Even if only KJ and Mascol come back, he needs to be top 25. Dabo is a stat guy and it seems I remember him saying when BV came that his expectation was top 25 in total D each year.
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Re: Don’t care. If he can’t make the defense elite next season
Dec 28, 2022, 6:04 PM
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Please don't be saying anything about any decision that should be made about the team anywhere close to a Clemson news site, or a Dabo friend where it could get back to him BECAUSE, if he feels that any part of the fan base is making a suggestion to him, he will lose the game before he agrees!!!!
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Re: Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 5:08 PM
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Good comparison, Erk Russell was another one.
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Erk was the heart & soul of UGA championship teams
Dec 28, 2022, 5:38 PM
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and Junkyard Dawg defenses in late 70's/early 80's. Buck Belue and all UGA players will confirm that. And of course, Erk built the Georgia Southern program from scratch and won multiple championships in a hurry with Tracy Ham and OC Paul Johnson. Erk was one of the top all time DC's and Div I-AA HC's of all time IMHO. Good call.
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People forget how bad Danny was when he began
Dec 28, 2022, 5:58 PM
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as he got more comfortable, he just started being himself. These aren't broadcasters, they're coaches. I could care less if a DC sounded like Mushmouth so long as he could coach
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Re: Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 5:59 PM
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For somebody that it's been said how good he is with a defensive scheme, he sounds like a 6-grader relaying his message, and he is truly very difficult to listen to, plus he needs a ton of base added to his vocal tone!!!
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Re: Just watched the Wes interview.
Dec 28, 2022, 8:36 PM
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Where does Venables fit in?
He has coached in 8 NC games.
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Wes followed the best DC in cfb. Time, grasshoppas.
Dec 28, 2022, 11:11 PM
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Wes will never be BV. But they were hired by the same guy. Give him time.
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