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Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:11 PM
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Just a thought here on Clemson leaving the ACC for greener pastures. Personally, I would prefer the ACC to come up with a plan to raise the ACC to the level of the two big conferences, but I am afraid that will not happen.
The ACC’s Grant of Rights deal gives the ACC the exclusive television rights to a team’s home games, and therefore it controls the tv money. If Clemson were to leave and just accept that their home games would be handled exclusively by the ACC, they would be good.
However, if in the new league, Clemson was not scheduled any home games, the ACC would be in a very tight spot. ESPN would not pay the money for this conference without Clemson.
For one year, Clemson could forgo the home games. Games could be scheduled in neutral stadiums, and the opposing team would be the home team. Atlanta and Charlotte are both close enough for the Clemson fans to attend.
Clemson would make the revenue from the new conference and not have to pay the ACC a dime. Georgia, South Carolina and Auburn would be easy drives for away games.
I really don’t think it would actually have to be done. The ACC would be crazy not to take a reasonable buyout rather than face the consequences of Clemson simply walking away.
Not knowing what is actually in the Grant of Rights, just going off what I have heard. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the wording can set this straight.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:41 PM
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Just a thought here on Clemson leaving the ACC for greener pastures. Personally, I would prefer the ACC to come up with a plan to raise the ACC to the level of the two big conferences, but I am afraid that will not happen.
The ACC’s Grant of Rights deal gives the ACC the exclusive television rights to a team’s home games, and therefore it controls the tv money. If Clemson were to leave and just accept that their home games would be handled exclusively by the ACC, they would be good.
However, if in the new league, Clemson was not scheduled any home games, the ACC would be in a very tight spot. ESPN would not pay the money for this conference without Clemson.
For one year, Clemson could forgo the home games. Games could be scheduled in neutral stadiums, and the opposing team would be the home team. Atlanta and Charlotte are both close enough for the Clemson fans to attend.
Clemson would make the revenue from the new conference and not have to pay the ACC a dime. Georgia, South Carolina and Auburn would be easy drives for away games.
I really don’t think it would actually have to be done. The ACC would be crazy not to take a reasonable buyout rather than face the consequences of Clemson simply walking away.
Not knowing what is actually in the Grant of Rights, just going off what I have heard. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the wording can set this straight.
This is brilliant!
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:41 PM
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Just a thought here on Clemson leaving the ACC for greener pastures. Personally, I would prefer the ACC to come up with a plan to raise the ACC to the level of the two big conferences, but I am afraid that will not happen.
The ACC’s Grant of Rights deal gives the ACC the exclusive television rights to a team’s home games, and therefore it controls the tv money. If Clemson were to leave and just accept that their home games would be handled exclusively by the ACC, they would be good.
However, if in the new league, Clemson was not scheduled any home games, the ACC would be in a very tight spot. ESPN would not pay the money for this conference without Clemson.
For one year, Clemson could forgo the home games. Games could be scheduled in neutral stadiums, and the opposing team would be the home team. Atlanta and Charlotte are both close enough for the Clemson fans to attend.
Clemson would make the revenue from the new conference and not have to pay the ACC a dime. Georgia, South Carolina and Auburn would be easy drives for away games.
I really don’t think it would actually have to be done. The ACC would be crazy not to take a reasonable buyout rather than face the consequences of Clemson simply walking away.
Not knowing what is actually in the Grant of Rights, just going off what I have heard. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the wording can set this straight.
This is brilliant!
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:41 PM
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Just a thought here on Clemson leaving the ACC for greener pastures. Personally, I would prefer the ACC to come up with a plan to raise the ACC to the level of the two big conferences, but I am afraid that will not happen.
The ACC’s Grant of Rights deal gives the ACC the exclusive television rights to a team’s home games, and therefore it controls the tv money. If Clemson were to leave and just accept that their home games would be handled exclusively by the ACC, they would be good.
However, if in the new league, Clemson was not scheduled any home games, the ACC would be in a very tight spot. ESPN would not pay the money for this conference without Clemson.
For one year, Clemson could forgo the home games. Games could be scheduled in neutral stadiums, and the opposing team would be the home team. Atlanta and Charlotte are both close enough for the Clemson fans to attend.
Clemson would make the revenue from the new conference and not have to pay the ACC a dime. Georgia, South Carolina and Auburn would be easy drives for away games.
I really don’t think it would actually have to be done. The ACC would be crazy not to take a reasonable buyout rather than face the consequences of Clemson simply walking away.
Not knowing what is actually in the Grant of Rights, just going off what I have heard. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the wording can set this straight.
This is brilliant!
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:41 PM
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Just a thought here on Clemson leaving the ACC for greener pastures. Personally, I would prefer the ACC to come up with a plan to raise the ACC to the level of the two big conferences, but I am afraid that will not happen.
The ACC’s Grant of Rights deal gives the ACC the exclusive television rights to a team’s home games, and therefore it controls the tv money. If Clemson were to leave and just accept that their home games would be handled exclusively by the ACC, they would be good.
However, if in the new league, Clemson was not scheduled any home games, the ACC would be in a very tight spot. ESPN would not pay the money for this conference without Clemson.
For one year, Clemson could forgo the home games. Games could be scheduled in neutral stadiums, and the opposing team would be the home team. Atlanta and Charlotte are both close enough for the Clemson fans to attend.
Clemson would make the revenue from the new conference and not have to pay the ACC a dime. Georgia, South Carolina and Auburn would be easy drives for away games.
I really don’t think it would actually have to be done. The ACC would be crazy not to take a reasonable buyout rather than face the consequences of Clemson simply walking away.
Not knowing what is actually in the Grant of Rights, just going off what I have heard. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the wording can set this straight.
This is brilliant!
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Jul 18, 2022, 2:43 PM
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Haha. No conference would invite Clemson with it looming
Jul 18, 2022, 2:43 PM
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that Clemson doesn't have control of their own broadcasts to come in with, and no way in hell Clemson would forgo 7 home games for 1 year because of the totality of the revenue for Clemson and the surrounding areas, as a negotiating ploy to try and then buy their way out of the ACC. Clemson would get laughed out of the building with that Kamikaze move.
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Re: Haha. No conference would invite Clemson with it looming
Jul 18, 2022, 3:20 PM
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that Clemson doesn't have control of their own broadcasts to come in with, and no way in #### Clemson would forgo 7 home games for 1 year because of the totality of the revenue for Clemson and the surrounding areas, as a negotiating ploy to try and then buy their way out of the ACC. Clemson would get laughed out of the building with that Kamikaze move.
Games in Atlanta and Charlotte would be almost as good as home games.
With SEC games coming to Clemson every year, the total economic impact to the area and community would be huge.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:44 PM
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That's not how the GOR works. It isn't rights to only media revenue generated when playing at home. It's rights to media revenue generated anywhere. Home, Away, Neutral is irrelevant. They will get every dime paid to Clemson by the SEC for media.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:48 PM
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That's not how the GOR works. It isn't rights to only media revenue generated when playing at home. It's rights to media revenue generated anywhere. Home, Away, Neutral is irrelevant. They will get every dime paid to Clemson by the SEC for media.
You are saying when Clemson plays an away game against Georgia, that the ACC gets the rights and money?
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 2:55 PM
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I am saying that Clemson signed over their media rights to the ACC until 2036 and any funds given to Clemson in compensation for being on TV will be owed to the ACC.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 3:08 PM
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The GORs specifically says they have access to the facilities for the purpose of producing the games. When Clemson plays at Georgia or South Carolina, the ACC has nothing to do with it.
In addition, Clemson could still play home games against the small schools. Let the ACC get the revenue from the Furman and LA Tech.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 3:12 PM
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This is not correct. The GOR states that each conference member irrevocably grants their media rights according to the ESPN agreement. And ESPN has full rights to all Clemson's games. Their participation in any game broadcast by ESPN is paid to the ACC.
When Clemson plays UGA in Atlanta Clemson doesn't get that cut directly. It goes to the ACC because ESPN has rights to all of Clemson's football games and therefore those rights belong to the ACC.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 3:56 PM
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I don't believe that's accurate on the away game aspect. Those locations, and anything they generate, belong to those programs and whatever media arrangement they have with their leauge and partner. A game at UGA would belong to the SEC. A Clemson away game at an ACC school would belong to the ACC, but not a game at another league's venue - that's all theirs. See SEC Network coverage of Clemson @ SCar recently.
Clemson could earn 'guarantee' money for playing the game that it wouldn't have to share, because it's not 'media rights' - it's simply being paid to play. Normally, those involve 'return' dates where Clemson would host and own the rights, but that's not what the OP was proposing.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 3:31 PM
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Reading the Grant of Rights, it is unclear what rights are given. It would take seeing the agreement between ESPN and the ACC.
However, there are away games with other conferences that are produced by other networks.
Hopefully Clemson will continue to be relevant in the football world for a long time regardless of the conference realignment mess.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 3:32 PM
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Dani would never decimate the Clemson community like that, they depend on those 6 home games a year and the money pumped into the economy. Not to mention that the ACC only gets the TV rights and payment, not operating the stadium, selling tickets, etc is not something our admin could afford to do.
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Re: Breaking the Grant of Rights
Jul 18, 2022, 3:55 PM
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Assuming the GOR is for a school’s home games, as it appears, Clemson could simply make an announcement that it was leaving the ACC and would go independent like ND. If they also announced that they would forgo some are all home games next year, the GORs would be broken. The ACC would not be able to fulfill its contractual obligation with ESPN.
ESPN would immediately want to renegotiate the contract, or simply pull out of the agreement.
At that point, without a contract with ESPN that included Clemson, the ACC would more than likely break up.
Clemson would be free to pursue independence or go to another conference.
This could all happen very quickly and Clemson play all it’s newly scheduled home games in 2023.
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