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Are we Blue Bloods yet?
Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 AM
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Asking for a friend.
"Blue Bloods" not nearly as blue as Clemson these days: Penn State Texas USC
Not sure if there is an official list anywhere, but when do we join?
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Reading Media You Would Think Miami is New ACC
Oct 8, 2020, 8:27 AM
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Superpower and we are doomed
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No...
Oct 8, 2020, 8:36 AM
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ORANGE blood !!!
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Orange blooded...
Oct 8, 2020, 9:41 AM
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'Muricans.
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Re: No...
Oct 8, 2020, 10:00 AM
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Orange!
And blue bloods assume they are great because of their "legacy"
I hope we are never like that.
I want to be great because we BEAT legacies.
Merit, not birthright.
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I think we are more like The Beatles in 1964. We have
Oct 8, 2020, 8:36 AM
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achieved so much success that all the doors of the upper class are open to us, and we have a seat at their table. But, in their silent moments, they still consider us to be Scousers from Liverpool who just got struck lucky, and happened to hit the Big Time.
Kind of like how "old" Charleston families consider those who have only been there for 100 years to be "newcomers".
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Great! Going to have a Yoko come in and mess things up.***
Oct 8, 2020, 8:44 AM
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Tomorrow Never Knows.
Oct 8, 2020, 8:49 AM
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Everybody's got something to hide, 'cept for me and my Monkey.
I always wondered how John got away with calling Yoko his "Monkey". Maybe she never got it.
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It wasn't Yoko's fault the beatles broke-up...
Oct 8, 2020, 10:18 AM
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While she gets blamed for it, it was largely because of Paul and John and their HUGE egos.
Similar to Bobby Robinson getting blamed for firing Danny Ford. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Re: It wasn't Yoko's fault the beatles broke-up...
Oct 8, 2020, 10:53 AM
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I agree but he gats all the blame for the West hire.
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I have no idea who was ultimately responsible...
Oct 8, 2020, 11:56 AM
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for hiring West, who was coming off a 4-7 season at UT Chattanooga.
However, I do know that Chuck Reedy, Bobby Johnson, and Mickey Andrews were also interviewed.
At the ends of the day, that hire was simply an attempt by the Clemson Administration to appease the fans who were still upset about Danny Ford being fired. West was as close to a Danny clone as they could find.
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That was all Max Lennon's doing...
Oct 8, 2020, 11:58 AM
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In fact, Bobby Robinson literally begged Lennon to reconsider.
Bobby Robinson was also opposed to hiring Hatfield. He wanted Fisher DeBerry.
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Re: I think we are more like The Beatles in 1964. We have
Oct 8, 2020, 12:47 PM
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That was straight out of the Bob Spitz biography The Beatles. I thin that is hands down the best book ever written about them. (Best as in most truthful.)
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Just keep winning.***
Oct 8, 2020, 8:49 AM
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And recruiting***
Oct 8, 2020, 11:58 AM
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The other "blues" will never accept us.
Oct 8, 2020, 8:52 AM
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They're too salty from us beating them all the time.
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Re: Are we Blue Bloods yet?
Oct 8, 2020, 9:22 AM
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Dang is Penn State a blue blood? For real?
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Re: Are we Blue Bloods yet?
Oct 8, 2020, 9:29 AM
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Blood runs ORANGE!!
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Re: Are we Blue Bloods yet?
Oct 8, 2020, 9:36 AM
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The Blueblood list....
Southern Cal Notre Dame Ohio State Alabama Oklahoma
That’s the list.
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"Clemson has 25 conference titles spanning both the SEC and
Oct 8, 2020, 10:56 AM
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the ACC conferences."
Nice of him to credit us with some "de facto" SEC championships.
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Re: "Clemson has 25 conference titles spanning both the SEC and
Oct 8, 2020, 12:17 PM
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He should have stated "Southern Conference", which at the time included most of the current SEC, some of the ACC, and some other schools that have fallen by the wayside.
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Re: Are we Blue Bloods yet?
Oct 8, 2020, 11:16 AM
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This writer completely discredited himself by listing Terry Bowden as one of the great Auburn coaches. If you have 25 blue bloods on your list you don’t have any.
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As much as I hate to say it, I think Michigan belongs
Oct 8, 2020, 11:18 AM
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on the list of blue bloods as well.
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"Blue Bloods" are the teams that were elite
Oct 8, 2020, 9:42 AM
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when you Boomers were in your 20's.
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^^And you
Oct 8, 2020, 10:52 AM
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Were in diapers...'not so young one'!
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Re: Are we Blue Bloods yet?
Oct 8, 2020, 11:05 AM
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Nope. Blue bloods refer to their parent’s parent’s parents. And Penn State is nowhere near a blue blood. They were just a northeastern independent who choked in the big games or were not viewed as equals in the polls when it came to voting on an undefeated Penn State versus a two loss Bama or USC or Michigan. Joining the BIG has kind of made them a little less relevant but they get talked up as a way to inflate the bucknuts accomplishments.
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Re: Are we Blue Bloods yet?
Oct 8, 2020, 12:19 PM
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Here is the best take I have ever seen on this topic. This was a post on another message board, not mine....
"Here’s my take:
1) "blue blood" refers to the teams that largely dominated the period between 1947-1979. Before that was basically the anarchic/uncivilized period. The polls started in 1936, I know, but there was no standardization, and then WWII started. So, it’s after the Army run that I look at as when there were blue bloods in cfb. [This will allow Gopher fans to think of themselves as rampaging Vikings in the 1930s, so they should work with me.]
2) During the standardization period, certain teams stepped to the fore. This was especially the case from 1961-1979. In the 50’s there was still a lot of turnover in most conference’s pecking order, Oklahoma in the Big Seven excepted. But, for the better part of the 60s and 70s, every major conference was either largely dominated by a blue blood (USC, Alabama, Texas), or saw two blue bloods constantly warring for supremacy (OSU/Michigan, Nebraska/Oklahoma). Add in Notre Dame, and you have the eight most storied programs, and account for every national title from ‘61-’79, save for Pitt in ‘76 (which caused a major rules change) and partial claims from MSU and Arkansas. This is the aristocratic period. There weren’t many games on TV, and those that were almost always featured these teams.
3) Starting in 1980, the barbarians stormed the gates. For five straight years, a non-blue blood won the national title (three times beating a blue blood in their bowl game), By the end of that period, in 1985, Darrell Royal, Woody Hayes, and Bear Bryant were gone, independents had asserted themselves (PSU, MIami, and FSU primarily, though people forget how good Pitt was so long as Jackie Sherrill was there to make Barry Switzer look clean), and, perhaps most importantly, the Supreme Court had ruled against the NCAA and opened the door to wall-to-wall football on TV on Saturdays.
4) If we want to continue the metaphor, then 1980-present is basically the post-industrialization or "new money" period. If you ask me the eight most elite programs over the last 40 seasons, I’d probably go: OSU, Oklahoma, Alabama, Clemson, LSU, FSU, Florida, Miami. Six of those schools won three or more national titles and the two that didn’t—OSU and Oklahoma—have probably been the most dominant in terms of their conference. Your mileage may vary, and Nebraska would certainly have an argument.
5) If you limit it to the BCS/playoff era, then it’s pretty much still the same list, except, I’d probably add Auburn and kick out Miami. The concept of being a regional empire doesn’t mean as much anymore, and the center of gravity is clearly in the southeast.
But to call Clemson or FSU a blue blood is like calling Wal-Mart or Amazon a blue blood. It’s anachronistic. The easiest way to tell that being a blue blood is of greatly decreased value is when one of those jobs comes open. Notre Dame, USC, Michigan, Nebraksa, Texas can’t just expect to get whoever they want. They’ve all had really awkward searches and bad hires (Oklahoma, too, in the 90s, and Alabama in the 00’s). It doesn’t mean what it used to."
Source....
https://www.offtackleempire.com/2020/1/24/21078249/what-defines-a-football-blue-blood-in-2020What Defines a Football Blue Blood in 2020? In my most recent research rabbit hole designed to make Michigan look bad, I thought, #### Michigan. Quickly, I realized that was not enough to sway opinions, so I sought ways to discredit their...
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