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Agree with FM and others that UGA is out
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But so is FSU IMHO with a backup QB.
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Bama
To qualify leaving out FSU, the so-called committee will match FSU up vs. UGA. Then how many will bet FSU over UGA with resulting 10 point spread?
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The committee will do what they do
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:20 AM
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and we’ll all have to live with it, but the criteria is clear.
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Re: The committee will do what they do
Dec 3, 2023, 10:29 AM
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Isn't the criteria supposed to be geared toward putting the 4 best teams in the playoff? If so, then you have to believe FSU minus their starting QB is still 1 of the 4 best teams in the country. Having watched both of their backup QBs, I think that would be a bit of a stretch.
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Re: The committee will do what they do
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“Proposed Selection Process:
Establish a selection committee that will be instructed to place an emphasis on winning conference championships, strength of schedule and head‐to‐head competition when comparing teams with similar records and pedigree (treat final determination like a tie‐breaker; apply specific guidelines).”
https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2016/10/24/selection-committee-protocol
“ Strength of schedule, head‐to‐head competition and championships won must be specifically applied as tie‐breakers between teams that look similar;”
FSU has a higher ranked SOR than Alabama.
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Re: Agree with FM and others that UGA is out
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:21 AM
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My picks as well.
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FSU is the team with the greatest chance of getting screwed.***
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:22 AM
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Re: FSU is the team with the greatest chance of getting screwed.***
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:23 AM
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And not enjoying it 😕
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Re: FSU is the team with the greatest chance of getting screwed.***
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:33 AM
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I agree but why did the committee make them number 4 last week. They played last week with a backup quarterback. Yet the committee made them number 4. If they had them outside the top 4 we would have known what they thought and it would be a no brainer to leave them out. The committee put themselves in a tough spot.
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Yes they did
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:40 AM
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Their own criteria makes it difficult for them to put Alabama and/or UGA in over FSU and Texas.
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betting doesnt matter. fsu earned their way in
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:22 AM
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down to their third qb against a top 15 team last night.
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If all the starters don't opt out of a non-CFP UGA vs FSU bowl game
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:23 AM
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UGA steam rolls FSU... Even if FSU had Jordan Travis I'd still pick UGA (and I hate the leghumpers) because UGA's roster is much deeper and better coached than FSU's...
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Re: If all the starters don't opt out of a non-CFP UGA vs FSU bowl game
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:24 AM
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That's why you actually physically play the game to find out.
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Agreed and I'd love to see it and I would pull for FSU against UGA but my
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:26 AM
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confidence in FSU actually beating UGA is near zero.
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Re: Agreed and I'd love to see it and I would pull for FSU against UGA but my
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:30 AM
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Then why put them in the CFP? If they can’t beat Georgia, can they beat any of the playoff teams? They deserve to be in the playoff. They are an undefeated conference champion!
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Re: Maybe, maybe not
Dec 3, 2023, 10:35 AM
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I’m not sure there is a criteria written in stone.
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Re: Maybe, maybe not
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:40 AM
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Yes there is. FM posted it in this thread.
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Re: Maybe, maybe not
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:42 AM
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Proposed Selection Process:
Establish a selection committee that will be instructed to place an emphasis on winning conference championships, strength of schedule and head‐to‐head competition when comparing teams with similar records and pedigree (treat final determination like a tie‐breaker; apply specific guidelines).”
https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2016/10/24/selection-committee-protocol
“ Strength of schedule, head‐to‐head competition and championships won must be specifically applied as tie‐breakers between teams that look similar;”
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Re: Maybe, maybe not
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:45 AM
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Well if that’s the criteria what’s all the questions concerning who gets in?
Looks good on paper but not sure it holds much water.
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The committee can do what they want
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:57 AM
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But that’s the criteria directly from them. I attached a link so anyone interested can read it all. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but I am saying based on the criteria they provided, it will be very hard to keep FSU out in favor of Alabama.
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Re: The committee can do what they want
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Dec 3, 2023, 11:07 AM
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Understood just did not believe they actually followed it.
That’s why I said, set in stone, like this is how it is and there are no exceptions.
Criteria has FSU in but in my opinion the top 4 teams as it sits right now has them out.
Would be nice to have them in seeing Clemson’s payday would be better.
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Re: Agree with FM and others that UGA is out
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Dec 3, 2023, 10:51 AM
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Soc… those are my picks as well.
For me, at least, I never thought FSU was a top four team with Travis. Not even close. And I think, again, JMHO, they are a borderline Top 8-10 team. So for me,, this isnt hard to exclude them ….in my mind, at least.
If they get in, I won’t lose sleep over it and I’ll be happy for Bret, I just don’t think they are what an elite top 4 team looks like. Hack I think Clemson is a better team than they are.
I could care less about conference affiliation. Good football is good football. FSU with Travis was a very good team…but not a top four team.
My only bias is that I do not want any success for Norvell. NONE. Their success does not help Clemson in any way….
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I dont like Norvell either, I think hes weak and a weasel
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Dec 3, 2023, 11:01 AM
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however, if we go by the criteria the committee is supposed to follow, then FSU is in. The only way to keep them out would be to place an emphasis on speculation of how they may do because the committee has already said prior to last night they are a top 4 team.
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All of this.***
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Dec 3, 2023, 11:08 AM
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Re: Agree with FM and others that UGA is out
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Question: FSU was #4 last week, without Travis. How does winning the conference title game by 10 points drop them?
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Thats a problem for anyone on the committee who thinks FSU is
Dec 3, 2023, 11:03 AM
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not a top 4 team this week.
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Re: Agree with FM and others that UGA is out
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Bama beat number 1 and FSU beat an over rated Louisville team that lost to Pitt and Kentucky. Sad part is they were top 2 in the conference. 🤬🤬
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One of the criteria is strength of schedule
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FSU’s SOR is actually higher than Alabama’s. I’m using it because it is what ESPN is using. Is there a difference between SOS and SOR?
“ The strength of record reflects the quality of their wins and the quality of their losses.
It’s a next-level approach to the strength of schedule.” Fansided
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Re: One of the criteria is strength of schedule
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I get your point FM and understand your reasoning wholeheartedly. Would love for Clemson to make some of that playoff money as well.
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Re: Agree with FM and others that UGA is out
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Clemson used to beat some bad ACC teams but we were blowing them out on most occasions.
The committee will focus on this ... my thoughts are Saban may have again have threaded the needle.
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I would not be surprised if Alabama gets in over FSU
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In fact, I’d be more surprised is FSU gets in over Alabama.
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Re: Agree with FM and others that UGA is out
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I believe the SEC championship was to make it in.
SEC championship in my mind has a little more weight seeing both were top 10.
I’m not sure but fairly certain that Clemson should be rated higher than Louisville.
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Laid it out. Exactly.***
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