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About DJ’s bad game
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About DJ’s bad game


Oct 27, 2022, 11:32 AM

I’m just wondering where everyone is on DJ after Saturday. There is no doubt he is the starting QB, no question. I just find it a little unsettling and feel caught off guard by his performance Saturday. Was there a mystery injury? Was it what Cuse was doing on Defense? The narrative is that it was just a bad game and it’s like taking an ace out who doesn’t have it that day. Maybe so. But my eyes saw the same guy that from 2021 playing Saturday in the 8th game of the season, out of the blue. It’s hard to ignore. So my question is, what do others think about it, and what will happen if it is obvious early against ND, that he hasn’t rebounded.

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Oct 27, 2022, 11:41 AM

DJ is our QB until he is not.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:36 PM

I hope "not" happens soon. D.J. can't win us a championship.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:52 PM

You sound very sure of yourself... Can Cade at this point in his career?

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Oct 27, 2022, 1:34 PM [ in reply to Re: About DJ’s bad game ]

I will bet you DJ does win us a championship. Tmail me and we can put some money on it.

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Oct 27, 2022, 1:52 PM

National not ACC. He will win the ACC this year as the starting QB. You’d be an idiot to think otherwise. I think most Clemson fans have bigger dreams.

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Fans ALWAYS raise the bar of expectations from the level


Oct 27, 2022, 3:28 PM

they started with. It’s one of the huge advantages of having no control over the situation, but with the ability and desire to create a set of unrealistic expectations for other people.

Most people would have not expected us to be 8-0 at this point. The consensus over the summer was that DJ was no better than last year and we should expect to lose a couple of ACC games again.

But, now fans are ready to let a season where we win the ACC, make the CFP again, but perhaps lose in the final four ... be labeled a failure.

I doubt seriously that anyone here would have bet money on Clemson winning the national title in 2022, but now fans are ready to say only that level of accomplishment is acceptable for a successful 2022 campaign.

Being a fan is pretty easy work.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:51 PM [ in reply to Re: About DJ’s bad game ]

I'll stick by DJ as long as Dabo plays him. When Cade is QB, I'll stick by him. The coaches know a little more than we do about what's going on.
Go Tigers!!!

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Oct 27, 2022, 11:47 AM

It’s mental he made a mistake at home and for some reason he can’t shake those. He plays better on the road which is odd but when ge makes a mistake at home it messes with him

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Oct 27, 2022, 11:47 AM

Everyone has one bad game. DJ has more than earned his spot. IMO we don’t beat WF without DJ. He’s been solid. Why can’t we chalk it up to one awful day? Let’s support him so he’s not all in his head thinking we all hate him. That’s when the real issues start.

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Oct 27, 2022, 11:57 AM

I’m just asking questions. I don’t hate DJ. I didn’t like his performance last year. He looked like he put that behind him for 7 games, and then Saturday happened. I think it’s very reasonable to ponder what happened Saturday given his historically bad season LAST year. If last season had not been that way for him, that performance Saturday would be even more odd? Right?

I understand games 1-7 DJ is the best option this year if Cade truly can’t hurt people to much with his arm. But man, after rewatching the game, he looked like he couldn’t wait to get out of there. To answer your question, it would be nice to just forget about it. After last season, and then Saturday, if we are talking ACC title, and playoff appearance, maybe playoff wins, that won’t be even close to serviceable. I hope he lights up ND’s A$$ again.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:19 PM

Syracuse has the best passing defense in the conference. The defense they run also uses a lot of "hybrid" players who can play in different positions. The point is to confuse the offense, to compensate for being physically outmatched.

Regarding the fumble, Uiagalelei hesitated, because Syracuse had the play perfectly defended. They had 2 defenders free to cover Mafah, and a third on Uiagalelei. He hesitated because he saw no options, and then had the ball in his weak hand. If he had just done one or the other, it was probably just a 3 or 4 yard loss at worst.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:31 PM

Sounds right to me. What popped in my head after reading your post was what happens when a team with better talent on defense tries the same things and gives the same looks Syracuse did?

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Tell 'em u7c coot. No one knows losing better than you.


Oct 27, 2022, 12:35 PM

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Oct 27, 2022, 3:15 PM [ in reply to Re: About DJ’s bad game ]

In that case, I'd be more concerned about the line blocking, before we even get to that point.

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He's played really good this year..hopefully he can flush


Oct 27, 2022, 11:53 AM

it and pick up where he left off prior to Syracuse. I think he will. My biggest concern is when the defense turns it off. There was a lot of plays against Syracuse and frankly all year where our defense can look like swiss cheese and seemingly simple plays by the opposition can go for big yards. Then its like a switch gets flipped and we look like 2018 on defense. Defense, with our talent, shoudl be more consistent and it usually hinges on temporary confusion, missing assignments, and poor tackling. Defense fixes alot of our issues. And i think our defense is good enough to get settled and consistent.

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Oct 27, 2022, 11:54 AM

I also remember Deshaun struggling at home one game in 2016. But nobody ever questioned who the starter was. I know he threw for well over 400 yards that game but he also turned it over 3 times so I say DJ is still doing a great job for us and we need his leadership.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:39 PM

Refresh my memory, was D.W. coming off a year where he sucked every game? Don't think so.
D.J. has never looked great. He has to be playing against extreme inferior talent to look good.

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Oct 27, 2022, 1:01 PM

This is why I hate the comparison to an Ace pitcher having a bad start or the 3-22 from the field Steph Curry bad game. Baseball is just an impossible comparison and Curry has never been dreadful for a whole season. I think it was a massive step back to see DJ have a performance that bad against Syracuse. I’m concerned

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Oct 27, 2022, 3:11 PM [ in reply to Re: About DJ’s bad game ]

You didn't come with that same energy his freshman year. We all expected him to be great, which he is. As a kid whose parents got divorced I can tell you things like that will effect you more than anyone last year wanted to talk about. That happened to him last year, on top of injuries to not only himself but everyone around him. Throw in the fact that our receivers couldn't catch a cold standing butt naked in Alaska and of course he had a bad year. 7 different O-line combinations?!?!? DW4 or TL16 didn't have to deal with any adversity like that. Get outta here with that non-sense. DJ has been outstanding this year and I ride with 5.

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Oct 27, 2022, 11:58 AM

He had a bad game. You are overthinking it.

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Re: About DJ’s bad game


Oct 27, 2022, 12:13 PM

Bad games or bad days should only make a player better in the long run. As long as he has drive and determination to get better he will be fine. Gotta have bad days to reap rewards of the good ones. Great players find a way to learn and build. We shall see.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:48 PM [ in reply to Re: About DJ’s bad game ]

DJ is not near the QB he was last year. The most obvious sign is his calm footwork now vs. last year! Now had he become a little complacent before this last game (?) maybe, but we will never know that answer. But He is definitely 100% better than last year.

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There was an injury and it certainly isn't a mystery


Oct 27, 2022, 12:19 PM

His hand was stomped early in the game on the play where Ngata got a personal foul. Tore the flesh on his throwing hand affecting his grip on the ball. We were mowing them down before that and still gained yards at will until he made his off target throws. I have no idea about the goal line fumble. That just looked like a bad decision but maybe you don't think straight when your hand is throbbing?

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I thought they said the stomping injury was his left hand...


Oct 27, 2022, 12:36 PM

???

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Oct 27, 2022, 1:01 PM [ in reply to There was an injury and it certainly isn't a mystery ]

It was his non throwing hand

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Oct 27, 2022, 2:22 PM

I was mistaken?


It was probably still throbbing *grin*

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Re: About DJ’s bad game


Oct 27, 2022, 12:31 PM

Did anybody see Tom Brady Sunday? He was awful against the Panthers. Bad days happen. DJ will be fine!

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:35 PM

Tom Brady has been bad all season.

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you mean this guy


Oct 27, 2022, 3:11 PM [ in reply to Re: About DJ’s bad game ]

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1584230092410327040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Re: About DJ’s bad game


Oct 27, 2022, 12:34 PM

Same place I have always been. He can't win a Natty. He probably can't win a playoff game.

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Tell 'em u7c coot. No one knows losing better than you.


Oct 27, 2022, 12:34 PM

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:51 PM

Maybe a different perspective from an old timer who is a long time reader but never posts. IMO, the decision to replace DJ on Saturday was as much about the offensive strategy as it was about DJ's struggles. We needed to run the ball to win, and everyone in the stadium, Cuse included, knew it. Cade adds a dimension of quickness to the QB position in the run game that DJ doesn't have. If we had been in a position late in the game where we needed to throw the ball, I think DJ would have returned to the game. Cade simply doesn't have enough experience in live action to have learned where he can and can't throw the ball, evidenced by the near pick on the short out route. DJ will rebound. His touch and timing on throws has been really good most of the year but was MIA Saturday. It happens.

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Oct 27, 2022, 1:30 PM

I hope you’re right. Great post.

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Oct 27, 2022, 12:54 PM

The real question for me is if DJ stumbles and gets pulled can CK effectively read defenses that will unquestionably be designed to confuse him. He played a high level of football in HS and possibly saw some exotic defenses but I really have no idea

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DJ has a long memory, as a QB you can't , you have to forget


Oct 27, 2022, 1:28 PM

the last play, until he learns that , he is at risk to "get in his own head"

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I’m not sure, he didn’t seem to be as focused as normal.


Oct 27, 2022, 1:33 PM

The good news is that we were moving the ball up and down the field, but shot our selves in the foot, with the turnovers.

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Oct 27, 2022, 1:45 PM

8 straight games, 4 of which were road games, with no breaks. He’s been under a microscope all year and has improved every game. Bad games happen. WR, RB, CB, LB, linemen all have bad games. Give him a chance to rebound and see what he can do.

Dabo did the right thing in the moment but DJ is our better option for where we want to go right now.

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Oct 27, 2022, 1:54 PM

I rewatched the game and notice that it appeared his left hand (non throwing hand) was hurt on the second drive. Then the fumble he had was with the ball in that hand. I think that may have made him try harder to play safe and not mess up, second guess his decisions, and not play loose like he did against Wake. With Cade coming in to back him up and the bye week he will have time to reflect, refocus, and realize he does have perfect every snap every game. I think he will come out refreshed and invigorated against ND and prove it was just a bad day at the end of a long tough run of games and not a sign of impending doom. I also have faith in the team and staff to help him and do the same as well. I am very excited to see them continue this season’s journey throughout the championship phase.
Go Tigers!

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Shut up - sometimes Steph Curry goes 2 for 25. . . sometime


Oct 27, 2022, 2:05 PM

Tom Brady completes 5% of his passes. Sometimes Neil Armstrong misses the moon. Ya not aloud to ask questions, ya coot!!

(wink, wink!)

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Tell 'em u7c coot. No one knows losing better than you.


Oct 27, 2022, 5:33 PM

The gall…

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Oct 27, 2022, 2:17 PM

A lot has been said about DJ's ability
to overcome adversity and with what he
has accomplished this year he has more
than answered the call. There is really no reason
to doubt he has already moved on from
this past Saturday and we already know he will be
motivated to avenge a loss to ND when he
played lights out. The Notre Dame pass D
is ranked 70th in the country and I fully expect DJ
to be dropping dimes on them all day. Watch for
the coming out party of Antonio Willims.
10 + catches for 150+.

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Re: About DJ’s bad game


Oct 27, 2022, 2:48 PM

First off, I’ll support either QB the coaches decide to start. We had a flashback last Saturday to 2021, and what we saw most of the (that) year. Considering last year, our offense and team has greatly improved however, that bar was very low as compared to previous years. Our offense has improved this year but we’re somewhat limited on what plays we can run, either because of our young WR’s or our QB’s ability. I hope we continue to improve offensively each week. I do not think the DJ and Shipley runs up the middle 70% of the time will get us past the ACC Championship. If we can greatly improve our passing game, maybe so. I also wish Cade will get more snaps in case he is needed due to either injury or another flashback to 2021.

Go Tigers !!!

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Re: About DJ’s bad game


Oct 27, 2022, 9:16 PM

He's just not a great QB. That's all there is to it. He's worked hard to be his very best and his very best is good. But not great.

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Oct 28, 2022, 12:19 AM

I think it was the 3-3-5 that confused him in the passing game. They dropped 8 a lot in coverage after the first pass. He had trouble reading it, But I think after the fumble he couldn't shake it mentally. Hope he has a good bounce-back game against ND.

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