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12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 12:39 PM
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Just interested in what others think.
I’m NOT a fan. I think it’s strictly a money grab. I also think that it will eventually lead to the best team not winning. I prefer to see the best teams at full strength. More games equals more injuries and eventually a front runner is going to sustain a critical injury BEFORE the last game and change the result of the last game. I don’t think more games works in favor of the best teams.
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Not a fan of expanding the CFP.***
Sep 7, 2022, 12:41 PM
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CU Medallion [64591]
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I think 8 would have been a better number***
Sep 7, 2022, 12:42 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93673]
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I believe the best team has won the NC so far.
Sep 7, 2022, 3:20 PM
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That is the ultimate goal of a playoff. The AP use to screw the football world by propping up favorites and voting down teams which were most likely better. The BCS made it even worse. The preseason polls ranked SEC teams so high that when one lost to another the polls and computer generated FPI would swap teams in positions.
I love the playoff formula. I think the POC has done a reasonable job and I believe that will continue but giving anyone a bye is against my religion. 
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It is $$$ Grab, but
Sep 7, 2022, 12:44 PM
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like the 12 better than the 8 team. They expanded while still having the season still mean something, with the Top 4 Conference Champs Bye.
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 12:48 PM
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The best team should win regardless but I would prefer 8 teams instead of 12 with the top 4 seeds at home the 1st round.
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I think it was necessary for fan interest
Sep 7, 2022, 12:52 PM
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The 4-team playoff had become too exclusive with Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, and Oklahoma accounting for the vast majority of playoff berths. Even if 5-12 don't have a very realistic chance of winning, I think this will create excitement for alot more fan bases. We will likely see upwards of 20 teams with a shot of making the playoff going into rivalry week.
It does absolutely nothing to help determine the actual best team in CFB though.
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Re: I think it was necessary for fan interest
Sep 7, 2022, 12:59 PM
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Exactly, it's all about hope. Giving hope to the #5 thru #12 fanbases so they'll watch.
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Re: I think it was necessary for fan interest
Sep 7, 2022, 2:51 PM
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They have no hope.
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FWIW, I think Clemson fans should be excited about this
Sep 7, 2022, 12:55 PM
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change overall. It ensures us a path to the playoff for the foreseeable future even if we are stuck in the ACC for awhile. I really think the B1G and SEC could've played hardball here if they had wanted to and pushed for expansion without automatic bids like Greg Sankey threatened back at SEC media days.
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Orange Blooded [4130]
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Would have rather
Sep 7, 2022, 1:02 PM
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seen an 8 team playoff with the top 4 being rewarded a home game. As it stands, the top 4 will not host a game and will play 3 neutral site games.
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 1:03 PM
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I believe every team should play the same number of games so I don’t like any system that includes teams getting a bye. I would like to see 3 games involving the top 6 teams not playing in conference championship games played the same day as the P5 conference championship games. The 8 winners are then seeded by the committee and round 1 played at the home stadium of the highest ranked 4 teams. Everyone plays the same number of games. The SEC wouldn’t like it because the loser of the SEC championship game is out but playoffs are win or go home and this really is a 16 team playoff beginning with conference championship weekend.
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 1:12 PM
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Going back to before the playoff system started, I don't remember there being any debate about who should be number one that involved more than two or three teams. Usually just two. So, when a playoff system was proposed, a two or four-team playoff made sense. Obviously, this new format is just a TV money grab. It can't be anything else. This is the way of so-called progress, since the people in charge can't restrain themselves for the good of the game. With rule changes to facilitate scoring, NIL, transfer rules, concussion/safety concerns and now the expanded playoff system, I am afraid that college football will become something else entirely in another decade or so and won't even be affiliated with the universities at that point. Too bad.
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This!***
Sep 7, 2022, 1:27 PM
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 1:36 PM
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Should have been 8 teams. Total BS to hand out byes in a sport with so few games in a season.
As for a money grab, all of CFB is a tv money grab. This I really just 1 extra week. Same if it were 8 but no one getting to sit one out.
As for chances of best team not winning, that’s what competition is all about. The champion shouldn’t be the best team, but the team that wins the championship.
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 4:01 PM
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No, this is the best setup. Independent teams are no longer rewarded for weak scheduling (cough, cough, Notre Dame). They want to stay independent and avoid the conference championship game? Take the long road through the bracket.
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 1:45 PM
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If you like seeing the same teams at the top every hear yes it’s bad for you.
I don’t understand that mindset though.
I love a good upset.
I love seeing teams battle for a playoff spot and then go on a Cinderella run.
IMO College football’s postseason has been the worst for long enough. This has been a long time coming for me.
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Cinderella MIGHT happen once a decade or less
Sep 7, 2022, 2:42 PM
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More often than not, teams are going to get absolutely slaughtered. Why? Because typically teams in the top 5 are in a completely different stratosphere than teams ranked 10-12.
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 1:49 PM
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And for those of you saying “it’s about determining the best team”….
No it’s not. It’s about overcoming adversity and putting an entire season together. The best team on paper doesn’t always do that.
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Re: 12 TEAM PLAYOFF
Sep 7, 2022, 2:11 PM
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I like it. Some years ACC would have had 3 teams in I believe. I also like that Memphis would have made it one year when they were ranked 17 and 12-1. They were fun to watch. As a fan of the game, keeps me watching more games at the end and going through more what if scenarios. Also does not give bama a top 4 seed if they lose the sec championship game like before. No more getting shafted as a 5-6 ranking.
As a Clemson fan, gives me more hope for playoff chances even if we slip up during the regular season.
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8 was the correct number and they blew it
Sep 7, 2022, 2:39 PM
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But, whats new. This game will be, in short order, unrecognizable. And thats unfortunate.
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How many 2 loss SEC and Big slow 10 teams are going
Sep 7, 2022, 2:54 PM
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to be there every year while an undefeated small team or a 1-loss ACC team sits home? This whole thing reeks of BS.
8 teams is the sweet spot, I agree. That way a conference champion from a big conference gets a guaranteed spot, and there are three spots left over for cinderellas or 1-loss contenders.
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Oculus Spirit [93673]
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I hate that anyone gets a bye.
Sep 7, 2022, 3:15 PM
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I wouldn't have that complaint had they gone with 8, 16 or...
Giving four teams a bye is unjust. It's not that I expect a 12 seed to beat a 5 seed then win another game and be too tired to play. It's a matter of injuries for the teams which don't get an extra week off. I prob won't watch the first round unless Clemson has a horse in the race.
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The Bowl System is antiquated.
Sep 7, 2022, 3:24 PM
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As much of a traditionalist as I am, those days have passed and it's time to make the new system work.
The things I like about a playoff system is that it makes November a much bigger deal. It also makes winning the conference important. I like the idea of having a bye. It makes the competition better.
Another aspect is you you see fewer players leaving for the draft.
12 teams is fine, but I would move it to 16 teams for the championship tournament and have a consolation tournament for the next 16 teams like BB does with the NIT. Whatever is left over from that can participate in whatever scrimmage they wish.
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Re: The Bowl System is antiquated.
Sep 7, 2022, 3:38 PM
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More thoughts on this than I expected.
I’ve just seen that some years #1 is head and shoulders better than everyone else. Some years there are 2 teams with a legitimate chance. And in the rare year, 3 teams look like they are fairly close together. I have never seen a year where 4 teams looked like they really belonged. Not once.
So now we’re going to 12? Somebody is getting paid and the top teams are exposed to more risk of injury. We already have enough of both of those things. I’m not in favor of more of it.
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1000% this***
Sep 7, 2022, 3:39 PM
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Consider This
Sep 7, 2022, 3:57 PM
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With NIL and virtually no restrictions on transfers, there's going to be more parity. Players are going to jumping all over the place to get playing time and that's already having an impact at places like the real USC. Coaches do a lot more babysitting and codling of players to keep them happy so they don't leave.
I don't like it. But we are living in the world as it is rather than the one we might want and making the most of the playoff system is needs to happen.
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What justification can there ever be for 16?
Sep 7, 2022, 3:39 PM
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You will already have all your inclusion BS with 12 and will already have far more teams than will ever realistically deserve to be in said playoff.
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It will make the tail end of the regular season much more
Sep 7, 2022, 4:22 PM
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relevant. Before, with the Top 4/5 pretty much set for a couple or three weeks at least, all most fanbases could hope for was a New Year's Six Bowl at best. Now, a playoff spot and THEN a New Year's Six to at least half the teams that played that first week. At least, that's the way I would do it. Back the Natty game up one week, Quarterfinal games as New Year's Six, Semifinals as standalone Super Bowls, then the Natty a week after.
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