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Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 10:26 AM
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and two of them are bad. That means for every pass you attempt, you only have a 33% chance of something good happening. I am not a mathematician by trade, but I have a firm grasp on most of the sciences, including statistics, so understand the implications. I hope this information finds it's way to the coaching staff and they understand as well.
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 10:33 AM
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Well hopefully we can complete close to 33% of our passes this year.
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I like how you said, “we.”***
May 17, 2022, 10:53 AM
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Re: I like how you said, “we.”***
May 17, 2022, 10:55 AM
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Yeah...I was hoping to make the squad. I am an optimist.
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Re: I like how you said, “we.”***
May 17, 2022, 10:59 AM
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^^ Underrated poast.***
May 17, 2022, 10:35 AM
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Re: ^^ Underrated poast.***
May 17, 2022, 12:21 PM
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I believe the OP is plagiarizing Coach Frank Howard and many others. Not an original thought at all.
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TigerNet Icon [153758]
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Did you invent the word “plagiarizing”?
May 17, 2022, 12:28 PM
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I don’t see any credit given. Uh oh.
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Re: ^^ Underrated poast.***
May 17, 2022, 2:19 PM
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This post reminded me to renew my membership.
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Re: ^^ Underrated poast.***
May 17, 2022, 2:29 PM
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 10:44 AM
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If we were not a Football school, I would remind Tnet that the best hitters in the history of baseball failed 70 percent of the time........oops
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 10:58 AM
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When you consider those facts, you realize a really good punting team with really fast outside players who can strip and tackle and an Australian punter could get into the red zone every time. Then, an option run or up the middle for six.
People underestimate what a good punting team can do to advance the ball on any given drive. It makes me laugh.
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 11:02 AM
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Woody Hayes said THAT and we ended his career.
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Now more than three
May 17, 2022, 11:03 AM
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Probably more than this (from the offensive perspective)
Completion - Good
Incomplete - Bad
Interception - Bad
Targeting on the defense - Good
Holding on the defense - Good
Pass interferences on the defense - Good
Defense "giving him da bizness" - Good
Pass interference on the offense - Bad
Fumble after the catch, defense recovers - Bad
Fumble after the catch, offense recovers - Good
Hunter Renfrow makes the whole Coot defense look like the Keystone Kops - Good
Mike Williams giving piggy back rides to Coot DB - Good
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The Math
May 17, 2022, 11:13 AM
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In 2021, Clemson attempted the forward pass 414 times. 228 (55%) were completions. 175 (42%) were incompletions resulting in loss of down. 11 (3%) were interceptions resulting in change of possession.
So, only about half of the time was passing a bad thing and only 3% of the time were we screaming for a QB change mid-game.
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Imagine how this math would've changed if Dabo had
May 17, 2022, 11:19 AM
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been allowed access to Naz Bohannon. 6'5" DJ to 6'7" Naz would've left all defenders as spectators watching the pass fly over their heads all the way from point A to point B.
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This is an offensive post.
May 17, 2022, 11:37 AM
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(Unless the defense intercepts it.)
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We appreciate the advice Paul
May 17, 2022, 11:42 AM
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I’m sorry. When are you taking us on our trip to the Bahamas again?***
May 17, 2022, 11:52 AM
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DSP has a room reserved for FM in Jamaica***
May 17, 2022, 12:32 PM
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 12:18 PM
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I can’t argue with this kind of genius. I’ve been advocating for decades that we should only throw TD passes, but nobody will listen to me.
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 12:23 PM
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FM is guilty of plagiarism. Off with his head.
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As a mathematician, I can confirm that happens for each pass
May 17, 2022, 12:27 PM
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attempt. But, over a sample the percentages for successful passes may increase or decrease with the person throwing it and the person receiving the pass.
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I don’t think you understand how this works.***
May 17, 2022, 12:29 PM
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Yes, I do.
May 17, 2022, 12:34 PM
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You are wanting recognition from lightbulbbill® tomorrow morning.
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^^^underrated poast***
May 17, 2022, 1:07 PM
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I admit, I don’t fully understand, but
May 17, 2022, 4:50 PM
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it occurs to me that, conversely, running the football may be statistically less risky than throwing, which is why UGA has now finally had some success. That or the fact that they haven’t had a descent QB since Matthew Stafford.
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 12:32 PM
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Ok, I will bite....
First: Win a Natty
Win a Nattie big...
Get an awesome souvenir
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 4:19 PM
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defensive pass interference is another possible outcome so that's not true
I don't have the stats, but I'd be willing to be the defensive PI's outnumber the offensive PI's 100-1 at least
so you can discount the OPI and say
4 things can happen and 2 of them are good and two of them are bad
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 5:16 PM
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Defense PI = no play
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What if the ball explodes in the air?
May 17, 2022, 4:21 PM
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that's got to get it to 3.5 things
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 4:35 PM
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That's a good warning and word to the wise. There's no way we'd ever win a NC thinking like that.
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Re: Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball...
May 17, 2022, 5:15 PM
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You can complete it
You can incomplete it
You can complete it to the other team
You can get sacked
You can fumble the handoff
You can tuck it and run
The QB could run off the field with the ball and head to the locker room, which would either be a TD or safety depending on which way the offense was going.
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This is a typical misconception among greenhorns.
May 17, 2022, 6:55 PM
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and the elderly. I spoke with Brandon Streeter in Private chat along with several other Platinum level members. He mentioned 6 more good things that can happen when you throw the ball, so it is more like a 75% chance.
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