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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101567]
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Question for all you AD's out there....
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let's consider a worst-case scenario... Clemson gets stuck in the ACC until 2036, with deficits of $30M annually compared to the B1G and SEC. How would this play out in our athletic department? Would football be ~ OK, but other sports suffer mightily? Would we cut some of the men's programs because of the deficit?
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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May 17, 2023, 1:32 PM
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I want Balloons, Brats and Beers.
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and bewbs
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DRad cut Track & Field, ended up AD @ a bottom tier, 3rd...
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May 17, 2023, 1:34 PM
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world football program.
No good can come of that...
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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May 17, 2023, 1:36 PM
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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May 17, 2023, 1:43 PM
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Based on the trend line analysis (thank you, by the way) we will have a $30M annual deficit (comparatively) in 2029. How much will that deficit be in 2036? I am assuming the SEC and B10 are going to negotiate even higher contracts for 2030 and beyond while we wait out the GOR deal.
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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May 17, 2023, 1:51 PM
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And don't forget we have to sign Brad to a fat contract otherwise he might get poached.
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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Both conferences actually get to re-visit their deals twice within that timeframe.....so the gap will probably be much larger. That's a fact.
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I know the answer to this one.***
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101567]
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That's nice, but unfortunately
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May 17, 2023, 1:48 PM
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There are a lot more DAs than ADs on this bored!***
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Some like to prove it 100+ times a day
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Point Ho’s
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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May 17, 2023, 2:22 PM
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So 2036 - 2023 X 30mil = (wait can't do this in my head)
Apparently not the ADs.
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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Other sports will definitely suffer. I think club sports will be the first to go, then intramurals.
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Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
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When you receive $35-40 million a year and sell out an 80,000 seat stadium, you are not running a deficit. Do not buy the idea that we are at a disadvantage.
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Nobody said we are running at a deficit. But we will be tens of millions behind our competition annually. How is that not clear?
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Are we talking before or after Coach Swinney leaves?
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May 17, 2023, 3:15 PM
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let's consider a worst-case scenario... Clemson gets stuck in the ACC until 2036, with deficits of $30M annually compared to the B1G and SEC. How would this play out in our athletic department? Would football be ~ OK, but other sports suffer mightily? Would we cut some of the men's programs because of the deficit?
Only replies from knowledgeable individuals will be considered.
Seriously cutigerbob®, I do not project Dabo and his staff of friends & colleagues to stay at Clemson when top SEC/B1G head coaches are earning $20M plus per year and asst coach salaries and player NIL payments are also half of SEC/B1G. Dabo will stash that money in his coffers and generously donate to his church and selected charities in dollar amounts that would not be feasible at Clemson.
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I think the proper thing is for Clemson to take out
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a sizable loan AND hire a private equity firm to re-arrange the finances, then eventually file Bankruptcy and the tax payers can foot the bill. By then we will have several new stadiums and a 25 story glass dorm for the Football team
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101567]
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Solid plan is solid.***
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You're an accountant and
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Asking AD $$ questions of non-accountant-pretend AD's?
Not my lane...
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By 2036 it's not going to matter because all the top tier High School players will have collected their NIL money since Junior High School and all be fat, dumb and lazy with no desire to sacrifice in college.
It will be about which college HC can take the 2 and 3 star players and make them All-Americans.
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I cannot help but believe the Clemson football brand would
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be severely diminished by then, in that scenario. The question would then become, "What's NEXT?"
I don't even PRETEND to know what the conference landscape will look like in 2036. But the bad news is, given my family medical history, I probably won't be around to see it anyway.
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I'm no AD, but I will tell you what ...
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.... the position of the AD at FSU said.
(Close paraphrase) "It is impossible for us to be competitive at the highest level with a 30 million dollar, and increasing ever year, annual deficit."
My interpretation: We either get out of the ACC, and do so quickly, or we accept the fact that we will not be competing for national championships within the next few years. We will be, at best, a group of five level school.
So, it's not a matter of cutting programs and figuring out how to compete. That is not an option. There are two options:
1. Get out of ACC and join SEC or B1G.
2. Become a school competing with East Carolina, South Florida and Old Dominion.
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Va Tech would love to compete with Old Dominion.
Too soon?
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Is it to late to be considered?
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I think wimminz mud wrestling in Death Valley would almost immediately wipe out this deficit you speak of. This is a very sirius reply and has been presented to our Bored of Trustees. I have filed for a copyright, so please do not try to take credit. My crack lawyer, DSP, will defend vigorously.....or something vigorously.
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