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Clemson Conqueror [11283]
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PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
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Jun 20, 2025, 12:59 PM
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NIL is not part of the REVENUE sharing plan that went into effect this year. The student athlete is paid an appropriate amount of money to join the team. Clemson has elected to allocate 85% of their revenue sharing plan which is capped at $21M, to their football program. Meaning, each member on the team will receive a payment in some form. There are minimum requirements to satisfy the House Settlement, however some players will receive a bump from the revenue share based upon performance.
NIL on the other hand is private money from boosters which now must make public donations to the school for the purposes of recruitment and/or retention within the student body's athletic department. NIL is being offered only to players who perform well and choose to return to Clemson to play additional seasons. NIL money is still governed somewhat by the school to my understanding and the coaching staff has a partial say in how much is offered. However, NIL is more complex than the revenue sharing plan that is actually required by the House Settlement. NO TRUE FRESHMAN FOOTBALL PLAYER AT CLEMSON HAS RECEIVED ANY NIL MONEY TO DATE.
REVENUE SHARING
This is now a requirement under the House Settlement whereas, the school must pay its athletes who are on scholarship. This has now changed the rules regarding scholarship limits and has prohibited the use of walk-ons. Meaning, now everyone is a scholarship player if they're on the roster. This now requires the school to pay said player. It is a requirement more so based upon labor laws and not so much recruitment efforts. The reason for this is because in previous contractual clauses under scholarship offers, it prohibits said player from obtaining employment which creates financial hardships on the student athlete.
NIL
This money comes directly from booster programs or Corporations that want to use the Name, Image, or Likeness of a player. The coaches have power to offer NIL to players for either recruitment or retention. Clemson Football has chosen to use NIL expressly for retention whenever it comes their program, according to Dabo Swinney. Dabo himself has incorporated that aspect of NIL. However, the player who is on the roster does receive a paycheck from Clemson as if they're under a contract with Clemson by way of athletic scholarship. In addition to that revenue share, they also receive a full scholarship which encompasses free food, housing, and medical care. Revenue sharing is capped, NIL on the other hand is not.
NIL is paid into the Clemson NIL department by boosters and corporations that want to support recruitment and retention. Even if a student blows through their revenue sharing money Clemson will have no recourse if they are dismissed, because it is paid from the moment they walk on to the campus and begin practice. However, the school has no recourse on recouping that money because he or she technically earned it by practicing and participating in team functions. In the future, NIL money may be recouped by way of buyout clauses because NIL is private money that is paid out to the school's NIL program by third parties which have a vested interest in that money. Of course, that has not yet been fully established, but there is hope for that additional regulation or allowance due to players jumping from team to team to earn an easy payout without having to contribute to the success of a program. Nico Imaleava is a prime example of where a buyout clause would prevent such behavior.
HOPE THIS HELPS! GO TIGERS! BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYONE!
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Ultimate Tiger [34835]
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Re: PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
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Jun 20, 2025, 1:07 PM
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All and all...it's only $$$!
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Orange Phenom [14770]
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You dont really know this statement to be true
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Jun 20, 2025, 1:26 PM
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” NO TRUE FRESHMAN FOOTBALL PLAYER AT CLEMSON HAS RECEIVED ANY NIL MONEY TO DATE.”. Like you said NIL is private money; therefore it doesn’t have to be disclosed. Dabo doesn’t promise NIL money to high school kids, but that doesn’t mean someone hasn’t taken it upon themselves to pursue a kid on their own.
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Orange Elite [5471]
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There is just no way it's true
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Jun 20, 2025, 1:56 PM
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because everyone else is paying high school recruits.
We're all doing it. There is no reason to be ashamed of it.
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National Champion [8087]
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Re: There is just no way it's true
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Jun 20, 2025, 2:18 PM
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Its been pretty widely reported Cade is making like 3 million this upcoming season. No idea why anyone would think our team of 4 and 5 stars are here because they enjoy the SC climate.
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Clemson Conqueror [11283]
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Re: There is just no way it's true
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Jun 20, 2025, 5:00 PM
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Cade is not a true freshman, and his NIL was used as retention.
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Oculus Spirit [42337]
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Re: There is just no way it's true
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Jun 20, 2025, 3:42 PM
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Well technically SC gamecocks should be ashamed of it because they have nothing to show for their money.
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Clemson Conqueror [11283]
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Re: There is just no way it's true
Jun 20, 2025, 9:59 PM
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Well technically SC gamecocks should be ashamed of it because they have nothing to show for their money.
This is literally the funniest thing I’ve read all week. I’ve read this comment no less than 5 times and each time I read it, I laugh even harder than before.
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Athletic Dir [1131]
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Re: You dont really know this statement to be true
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Jun 20, 2025, 1:58 PM
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You can’t tell this guy anything.
There is zero chance we aren’t including NIL in our recruiting pitch.
If we were going after a bunch of guys that were Wofford or Furman caliber then maybe but we’re not.
We go after the big time guys and go head to head with the most prominent programs in the country.
These guys aren’t choosing Clemson out of just pure love for Clemson. There is absolutely NIL involved.
I don’t care what this dude or anyone else says.
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Clemson Conqueror [11283]
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Re: You dont really know this statement to be true
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Jun 20, 2025, 5:01 PM
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It's in the pitch, but each player automatically earns close to 6 figures just by joining the team. If they perform in practice even if they redshirt and they make serious progress they will be offered some serious money for returning to play another season. It's exactly how Dabo Swinney has openly stated his team will use NIL proceeds.
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Clemson Conqueror [11283]
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Re: You dont really know this statement to be true
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Jun 20, 2025, 4:59 PM
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Actually, Dabo Swinney has openly stated that NIL is used for retention only. Basketball, Baseball, Soccer, etc. has their own say in how they use NIL money. However, as far as Dabo Swinney is concerned, it's reserved for retention and not recruitment. Although, based upon past performance, of portal transfers maybe some deals have been made, but not for a high school recruit.
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Athletic Dir [1131]
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Re: You dont really know this statement to be true
Jun 20, 2025, 7:53 PM
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Yes… Dabo did say that… like 2 years ago bro.
Things have changed drastically since he made that statement. Like us losing almost half a recruiting class bc of it.
He changed his stance on that pretty quickly after seeing what happened to last years class the same way he finally gave in and brought in a handful of real transfers.
Bro we can argue til the cows come home but it won’t matter.
You’re wrong… period.
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Campus Hero [13316]
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Re: You dont really know this statement to be true
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Jun 20, 2025, 5:02 PM
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” NO TRUE FRESHMAN FOOTBALL PLAYER AT CLEMSON HAS RECEIVED ANY NIL MONEY TO DATE.”. Like you said NIL is private money; therefore it doesn’t have to be disclosed. Dabo doesn’t promise NIL money to high school kids, but that doesn’t mean someone hasn’t taken it upon themselves to pursue a kid on their own.
We know incoming recruits are being paid. Dabo is not entering into bidding wars but to think Clemson is getting a bunch of high-end recruits without paying the going rate is insanity.
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110%er [3808]
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Re: PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
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Jun 20, 2025, 3:18 PM
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Too many angry letters in this post. Turn off caps lock?
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Campus Hero [13907]
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Re: PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
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Jun 20, 2025, 3:47 PM
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He has summoned his inner DEROBERTS
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Clemson Conqueror [11283]
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Jun 20, 2025, 5:02 PM
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He has summoned his inner DEROBERTS
TELL EM CAP-ON!
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Clemson Conqueror [11113]
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Re: PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
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Jun 20, 2025, 4:06 PM
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How do you know no freshman has received NIL money? NIL could be anything from doing an ad for your small town car dealership, to the local greasy spoon, to major companies. If NIL was just simple endorsements the way it was designed to be, wouldn't the world be a better place?
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Paw Master [16232]
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Re: PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
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Jun 20, 2025, 5:45 PM
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Remember when schools had to worry about giving a recruit an extra desert or boosters giving players $100 hand shakes after a game? Ahhhh, Simple times they were!
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Clemson Conqueror [11462]
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Re: PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
Jun 20, 2025, 8:04 PM
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TL;DR
New rules with profit sharing will make pay for play NIL illegal and punishable. If they have a deal with Gatorade or Nike they are approved but booster paying will be illegal.
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Campus Hero [13907]
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Re: PLEASE STOP CONFUSING NIL WITH REVENUE SHARING
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Jun 20, 2025, 11:45 PM
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No it wont! I own XYZ construction company and I can pay Fat Albert to choose Clemson and all we have to do is tell the university that Fat Albert is gonna ride on my float in the town parade next Corn Days parade. Fatty can take my money and he earned it for advertising my float.
Yall act like this new ruling is a cure, it only helps those that did not have funds for the most part. It may reduce the wild west since funds have to be more public but do they really care??
Players can still be bought, period! Tampering is not stamped out!
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Clemson Conqueror [11283]
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The 110 Society At Clemson Is NIL Based
Jun 21, 2025, 1:41 PM
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The 110% Society is a NIL program at Clemson that gathers money in a specific way similar to IPTAY. However, that money is part of the Clemson NIL program. It centralizes the money and allocates it through a board of directors and each sport has their own pool of cash from the centralized pool. That money is 3rd party money with 3rd parties having a vested interest in that money. The coaching staff has the authority to divide that money as they see fit for recruitment and retention.
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Clemson Conqueror [11462]
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Re: The 110 Society At Clemson Is NIL Based
Jun 21, 2025, 10:40 PM
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Apparently that will now be illegal. Each NIL deal will have to be reported and approved and obvious pay for play will be denied.
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