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People think doctors are somehow all-knowing


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 11:58 AM
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and the medical scientists have it all figured out.

Well, they aren't, and they don't.

https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/secrets-of-influenza-%F0%9F%98%B7:1


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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 12:13 PM
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First of all, I should make it clear that I am all-knowing.

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 12:19 PM
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I find your post quite informative. Firstly, I am beginning to get a clearer grasp of where your "research" takes place. I honestly had no idea there was an alternative to youtube strictly for conspiracy theories, which is cool. I'm going to list the videos in the algorithm side bar for being most related to the one you linked:

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Wow. Neat.

I guess I can address the video too. First of all, hot blonde New Zealander. I enjoyed listening to her voice. The problem is with what she's saying, and with what the rest of her videos and content espouse. It's basically denying the germ theory of disease... which... to be honest, I didn't really know that this was a movement. It reminds me upon first glance of the kind of pseudoscience terrain theory of disease you see with moms who sell essential oils, talking about "toxins" and other invisible causes of disease. You see, the problem with rejecting the germ theory of disease, is that, well, you would just have to ignore literally all of written chemistry, biology, anatomy, pathophysiology, everything ever seen by microscopes, everything ever written in medicine, and instead conclude that no, it's all a lie perpetuated by (who?) for the reason of (what exactly?).

So you'll have to forgive me if I don't denounce the germ theory of disease and all of modern medicine after watching a sexy blonde doctor take down a wikipedia article using two poorly designed "studies" from over a century ago.

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I don't believe one bit of what you say

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 12:32 PM
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There are literally dozens of YouTube videos out there refuting you.

Who you expect me to believe?

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so, pure ad hominems, no substance, refused to acknowledge


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 1:49 PM
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the studies referenced. Par for the course.

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Hardcore conspiracy theorism should have at least a LITTLE


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 1:55 PM
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but of pain associated with it. You know, to weed out the nonhackers and tourists.

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:02 PM
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The two studies she mentioned in her vicious takedown of a wikipedia article (strong work Doctor) are something maybe of historical interest only, with serious ethical concerns and almost no methodological explanation or controlling for hardly a single source of potential bias, not to mention are over 100 years old. How anyone could even find a manuscript of these is impressive, but maybe you should ask yourself why this would be buried or secret or require alternative youtube videos if it actually mattered? The video is challenging the germ theory of disease, which is about as undeniable as the fact that the earth is round, that evolution is real, that the climate is changing, or that JFK Jr is really dead.

Here's the problem with misinformation.

You can present someone with a series of facts. Viruses are notoriously hard to study. They're small. They're almost impossible to culture. They're hard to measure. It's challenging to structure studies on viruses. These things are all true.

But instead of using those facts and taking a gentle turn towards wisdom, say, let's utilize forms of evidence that may not be RCTs, but in lieu of well crafted RCTs, are sufficient to establish consensus. Just as an aside, virology is not the only area of medicine where the majority of our understanding comes from something other than RCTs, which this hot blonde doctor is misleading people to believe is the only form of verifiable scientific evidence. No, this doctor is taking her viewers on a hard right turn off a cliff towards conspiracy and dumbassery. We go towards people claiming that no, viruses and bacteria don't make people sick, it's "toxins" and vaccines. We go towards a vast scientific conspiracy by "some people" who want to do "control things" or something like that. This is where conspiracy theories break down. The "they" is never defined, the "why" is always a moving target, people with a conspiratorial mindframe just never see this, and will always go one layer deeper without realizing they're tunneling through a mountain of bull crap.

The ad hominem is just for whimsy, but to be honest with you broseph, I'm not sure you know enough about this to have even a basic level discussion on virus transmission, so maybe if I can help you understand that your sources are whack and what you're interpreting as unmistakable veracity is actually a bunch of bunk, well maybe I've helped another human out today.

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You're a doctor, what do you know***


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:09 PM
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Re: You're a doctor, what do you know***

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:13 PM
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I know enough about my one particular area of medicine to know that I don't know hardly anything about anything else. That's the problem with education and expertise, the more you learn, the more you realize you don't understand.

That being said, I'm going to wager that my 15 years of basic science, medical education, and training put me at least at the level of being able to point out that stupid conspiracy videos are stupid.

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Re: You're a doctor, what do you know***


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:47 PM
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P&R, where people who have never worked in a specific profession you have tell you how much more they know about it.

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Again, you're just being dishonest.


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:18 PM
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There are many more studies and books referenced in this video than just the Spanish Flu stuff, which is relevant as that is held up as the ultimate example of a flu pandemic.

You're trying to label this a "conspiracy theory" so people just turn off their brain and accept the argument from authority (you're a doctor after all.)

Just purely dishonest.

The fact is, the medical community doesn't have a clue how viruses are actually transmitted, and lumping them in with all of germ theory is yet another dishonest tactic to skirt the facts.

There are plenty of declarative statements on how viruses work, but there is very little evidence, if any (computer models for example are not real evidence.)

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Something tells me you failed science in school***

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:22 PM
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Re: Again, you're just being dishonest.

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:32 PM
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No dude, I'm not. I'm sorry but I'm not going to do a book report for you on your crazy video. I'm not labelling it a conspiracy theory, it IS. The not-so-subtle intimations that "someone is hiding the truth" is like the definition of a conspiracy. I would ask why you even care, or are watching this, or are posting this, or what the point even is, but I think we all know that your interest in this is that COVID is a hoax and that people aren't actually spreading it, or that people aren't actually dying from it, blah blah blah I hear that stuff every day.

You know what though? I'm happy for you that you haven't had to take care of people dying from it, and let their families facetime them as they are terminally extubated because they can't be there in person. I'm glad for you that you haven't had the personal tragedy of losing a loved one and have the luxury of anonymity of the statistics to muddy your opinions about what is real and what isn't. I'm happy for you, honestly, because for the 568K Americans alone who had died of this VIRUS THAT IS TRANSMITTED FROM HUMAN TO HUMAN https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=sars+cov+2+transmission (I'll let you peruse the 11K results in your free time. If you're short on time, maybe just this one from the NEJM will suffice https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7179963/).

I'm telling you that viruses are hard to study. What are you asking, or demanding? It's not easy science to rub down door knobs, quantify viral cultures, and sequence those genomes then determine how every different amino acid combination on different proteins affects the pathogenesis and transmissibility... but guess what? It's been done. Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. So I'm sorry I'm not going to break down your two 100 year old N of 25 papers any more that I've already done and wasted my time tremendously, maybe you'll just have to accept that 99.999999999999999% of everything else ever written about viruses and infectious disease will have to disagree with Youtube New Zealand Doctor.

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The fact that you honestly believe 565k people have


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:51 PM
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died from Covid is all I need to know. Good day.

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Re: The fact that you honestly believe 565k people have

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:54 PM
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So I was right. This is all about your COVID denial,

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:56 PM
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and you really DGAF about the heaps of evidence for virus transmission. Just at least be honest with yourself, even if you can't be honest with us.

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You brought Covid up. But you've proven you are


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 9:09 PM
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disconnected from reality.

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You and I clearly live in two different versions of reality.***


Posted: Apr 22, 2021, 7:13 AM
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How often do you have to wipe the drool off your shirt?***

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 3:03 PM
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What do you do with this? I mean really?


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 5:19 PM
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Guess there's only one real option:



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You've yet to respond how you square your belief....


Posted: Apr 22, 2021, 7:54 AM
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that these deaths aren't covid related with the excess death measures.

And let's please not quibble over small differences. Sure...I can believe not every one of the 565k deaths attibuted to covid happened because of covid, but most all of them did. So is it really 500k, or 485k...that part doesn't really matter...it was "a lot".

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Hold up now...you state this as fact...

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:41 PM
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"The fact is, the medical community doesn't have a clue how viruses are actually transmitted"

Do you honestly believe the video you posted proves the above statement?

You haven't provided squat in terms of substantive content on your own, after complaining about that same thing to someone who wrote you paragraphs in their own words in rebuttal.

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Re: Again, you're just being dishonest.

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:42 PM
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"Doctors and scientists who have spent years and years of their lives researching and learning the ins and outs of their field don't know everything, and I'm going to post a nutjob video that says this and then challenge a doctor to come up with even more research to prove it wrong!"

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the earth is not round

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:24 PM
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It is an oblate spheriod

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What a dope you are.


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:13 PM
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Say you’re all knowing and then admit not knowing something in the third sentence. You must be on acid.

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Re: What a dope you are.

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:17 PM
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How else are you supposed to see the entire universe, inside and out? I'm like Neo from the matrix, I see things in strings of energy and subatomic vibrations.

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Bruh...


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:42 PM
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You're picking the wrong horse in this steeplechase.

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dude......your meter.....destroy it and order a new one.


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 7:31 PM
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Would the "acid" comment and the individual I'm addressing not give at least SOME clue?

Take a lap.

Catahoula®

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Sorry, man


Posted: Apr 22, 2021, 7:50 AM
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This is one reason why I took a break from here. The over the top seriousness and the fun stuff cross streams too much.

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That's why I enjoy dropping random humor in P&R

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Posted: Apr 22, 2021, 8:26 AM
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It's fun to be the guy putting the turd in the punchbowl.

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Isn't it funny how those who say...

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:39 PM
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"Doctors/scientists don't know everything!" usually follow it up with a link to some complete whackadoodle who definitely doesn't know jack #### about anything?

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Re: Isn't it funny how those who say...

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:44 PM
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Link videos to Doctors who are selling herbal supplements, or have monetized youtube videos, etc etc. The tards don't even realize they're being preyed upon.

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I remember...

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:46 PM
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When they were going nuts over "America's Frontline Doctors" last summer and then didn't realize one of them was a quack who believed in demon fornication as a cause of medical ailments.

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What ever happened to those ladies? I hope they are still

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:48 PM
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fighting off the demon that brought COVID to the world

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Re: I remember...

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:50 PM
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Correct. The woman from Texas. She had her 15 minutes of fame for standing up for hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID, and people who were very eager to make Trump not look like an idiot latched on to whatever they could find.

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Re: I remember...

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 3:01 PM
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As a retired not all knowing doc, let me state I caution anyone and everyone to avoid fornicating with a demon or to stop if one has taken that step on the wild side. It almost certainly would lead to a host of medical maladies. Just say no.

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Re: First of all, I should make it clear that I am all-knowing.


Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 5:41 PM
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Dude, all you have to do is agree to watch one or two of those videos per day, join a few FB groups, and follow some alternate folks on Instagram, and you will be a believer in no time at all.

It's called the echo chamber. If you live in it, you believe it - not matter what it is...

https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224


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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 9:31 PM
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of my reading list.

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Re: People think doctors are somehow all-knowing

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021, 2:57 PM
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and the medical scientists have it all figured out.

Well, they aren't, and they don't.

https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/secrets-of-influenza-%F0%9F%98%B7:1


I don't know of a single doctor who views himself or herself as all knowing save for perhaps one CV surgeon I know. He isn't either. If medical scientists have figured it all out, there would be no need to continue their scientific endeavors would there?

The germ theory is a misnomer it is well beyond theoretical.

Your second sentence is correct. COVID ain't a hoax. Our neighborhood just lost a 61 year old otherwise healthy individual to COVID. I hope you continue to move blissfully through your life latching onto ignorant musings from the fringe.

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