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Orange Blooded [4367]
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OT: If something happened similar to PSU at Clemson, how
Jul 16, 2012, 8:02 PM
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would your giving to the program/school change?
One of the things I found most intriguing about the whole situation was the fact that Giving didn't derease at PSU, some have reported it as increasing this year.
Would you as a Clemson fan try and support your school through the hardship by giving the same/more than before, or would you hold off/eliminate your giving for a time (whether it be IPTAY or going to games) in order to show your university this is not something you approve of?
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Stay the same, the sins of the administration does not affect how much I care about the program |
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Decrease for a couple years, I can't support a program that would let something like this go on, even if there is no one involved anymore. |
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Eliminate my giving forever, and stop supporting Clemson as an athletic instutution(not necessarily as an Academic one though) |
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Put Danny Ford in the Ring of Honor first then we can talk
Jul 16, 2012, 8:04 PM
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hypotheticals.
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Orange Blooded [4367]
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Isn't that a hypothetical too?
Jul 16, 2012, 8:07 PM
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regardless of whether one thinks he should be in it or not
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Legend [16259]
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Ack.***
Jul 16, 2012, 8:12 PM
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Re: He is in the Ring of Honor
Jul 16, 2012, 11:55 PM
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He's in with the 81 team not as an individual.
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Legend [16259]
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Forget Joe Pa's statue coming down, when is Danny Ford's
Jul 17, 2012, 12:05 AM
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going up?
He's a fine Clemson man that did our school right and has always been loyal to the cause. We should celebrate this champion properly, immortalized outside the stadium in front of Gate 1.
The timing couldn't be better.
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110%er [6681]
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Your thinking sounds like you relive your nightmares
Jul 16, 2012, 8:14 PM
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Lighten up - think positive!
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Re: OT: If something happened similar to PSU at Clemson, how
Jul 16, 2012, 8:23 PM
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Right on!!! At least most of us wouldn't punish the school b/c of a few very very stupid stupid men. I heard once said that common sense wasn't so common any more. Common sense prevailed in this instance.
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Re: OT: If something happened similar to PSU at Clemson, how
Jul 16, 2012, 8:37 PM
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what's common since?sorry,just couldn't resist.
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Re: OT: If something happened similar to PSU at Clemson, how
Jul 16, 2012, 9:12 PM
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That's ok, honestly, I wasn't really sure if it was spelled since or sense. Thanks for the correction!!!
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Re: OT: If something happened similar to PSU at Clemson, how
Jul 16, 2012, 8:53 PM
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you know as sad is it may seem that jo pa could've prevented more and lou freeh may have talked to all the "right" people to support his claim the best thing we can do as "a" people is let it go , just let it go , read the book of ecclesiasties gossip and he said she said doesn't help anything ............ find the victims and help them and shut up
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Orange Blooded [3510]
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Wouldn't change giving but would want heads to roll*****
Jul 16, 2012, 8:55 PM
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Re: OT: If something happened similar to PSU at Clemson, how
Jul 16, 2012, 9:11 PM
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I know I'd take the Clemson sticker off the back of my car.
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PSU really begs the question "who is the school?"
Jul 16, 2012, 9:19 PM
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Rather than hypothesize about Clemson, let's pretend we're PSU alumni. What would I do?
Once I was convinced that everyone who had even an inkling of what was going on with Sandusky was fired, including any board members, I would increase my donations to keep the school from dying. Until I was satisfied with that I would withhold my contributions.
I know a few PSU alumni who have backed JoPa and the AD even when they didn't know the truth - and now that most of the truth is out they still are backing JoPa. That is what is wrong with that school. The leadership was in denial and apparently so are some of their alumni.
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Re: PSU really begs the question "who is the school?"
Jul 16, 2012, 9:27 PM
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I have a good friend who is a PSU alum who admits to deifying JoPa. He is crushed. Can't even read the articles on it.
We don't even talk about it at all.
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sad thing for the fan base.***
Jul 17, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Agree w/ Paternos; idea of Joe "shielding" anyone is pure BS
Jul 16, 2012, 11:49 PM
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I think the Admins "heard" there was some sort of investigation back in 1998, but law enforcement wouldn't have released details to an open investigation. But they had heard the rumors to be itchy & suspicious, but probably were in denial over the rumors when Law Enforcemnt failed to act on anything. Joe was like 75 at the time, busy fighting off his jealous PSU skeptics who wanted him to retire & being alittle out of touch. I think the McQueary incident is where they screwed up; the admins should have talked to Law Enforcement, even if they were in denial because Law Enforcement never revealed anything conclusive.
Which brings me to the same question I keep coming to:
If LE had already had been tipped off or knew something, why didn't they do something or anything? Surveillance, interviews, depositions? Social services? Where was Law Enforcement in all of this if they supposedly already knew in 1998 (14 years before the indictment).
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Orange Blooded [2989]
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& yes, I would still support Clemson. This could have
Jul 17, 2012, 12:01 AM
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happened anywhere unfortunately. Colleges are made up of students & teachers first & foremost; almuni, friends, & families. Not just ladderclimbing administrators, or arrogant board of trustee members trying to cover their own ar$es whenever the sh*t hits the fan.
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Denial is a sad thing. Wake up!! Paterno knew everything
Jul 17, 2012, 3:58 AM
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and had more power than anyone else. They were going to turn Sandusky in and Paterno talked them out of it. He lied to the grand jury, and while that was going on he renegotiated his retirement package. Paterno is scum!
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