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TNET: Burning questions for Clemson's coaches: CJ Spiller edition
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Re: TNET: Burning questions for Clemson's coaches: CJ Spiller edition
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Jul 4, 2025, 7:11 AM
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Running back committee sounds like the logical choice for early season.
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not a good sign***
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Jul 4, 2025, 8:08 AM
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Re: not a good sign***
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Jul 4, 2025, 11:47 AM
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That is a problem for the coaches to figure out, I mean that is what they are getting paid mega $Bucks to do, isn't it?
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Why did we move Randall when there are 6 other RB on the roster?***
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Jul 4, 2025, 8:12 AM
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The logical conclusion is that we didnt feel great about the others.
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Jul 4, 2025, 8:15 AM
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If so, that is concerning.
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Re: The logical conclusion is that we didnt feel great about the others.
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Jul 4, 2025, 8:18 AM
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I agree…..my thought last Season when I saw Randall back there.
Go Tigers…!!! 🏈🏈🏈
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Re: The logical conclusion is that we didnt feel great about the others.
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Jul 4, 2025, 11:00 AM
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It does seem that something seems to be missing from the RB room, talent wise, discipline wise, or maybe just savvy wise. Hope we get that figured out and see someone step up and show out. We find out in about 2 months, I guess.
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Re: The logical conclusion is that we didnt feel great about the others.
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Jul 4, 2025, 11:03 AM
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One more thing; as our OL improves, and it should improve exponentially and with more quality depth, so should our overall offensive performance. I'm expecting our OL to be right up there with the uga's, etc., very soon.
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Re: The logical conclusion is that we didnt feel great about the others.
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Jul 4, 2025, 12:09 PM
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I have to disagree with the "we" assessment bc we don't have a say so, it's them or they, and I again will say they are getting paid very well to figure all that out as I truly hope they will by August 30th!!!
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Yet here you are, with anOTHER Scok whining about
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Jul 5, 2025, 9:11 PM
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how much Judge Keller® hurts your feelings. Get well soon, BowlHunger.
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Re: We filled the roster with RBs who wouldn't get any meaningful time....
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Jul 4, 2025, 9:36 AM
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Who is CP?
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Oh hes just reaching to b!tch. Like usual.
Jul 4, 2025, 12:49 PM
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Dudes a whiner.
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Re: Why did we move Randall when there are 6 other RB on the roster?***
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Jul 4, 2025, 10:43 AM
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Pretty sure Randall was a 5 or 4 star. He's extremely athletic, years in the strength and conditioning program, and has tons of game time experience.
Nothing about his move should concern anyone.
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Disagree RunCatch
Jul 5, 2025, 8:20 PM
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Randall is not a RB. Davidson has THOUSANDS OF GAME REPS AT RB and was a much better ranked high schooler. There's a difference. There is so little value in teaching an underperforming player a new position in his last year.
Besides Davidson, Eziomume and injured Haynes, Sammy Brown is a much better proven RB than Randall.
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Nothing except the fact that we are evidently so thin at RB
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Jul 5, 2025, 9:32 PM
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that we converted a WR to give us meaningful depth.
If Randall gets any meaningful playing time at RB, for any reason other than mass casualties among the real RBs on the roster, heads should roll.
This isn’t division III football.
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I honestly believe Gideon will separate himself by mid season. He'll be
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Jul 4, 2025, 8:31 AM
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the best back we've had since ETN.
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That's the hope, but you never know until they show you.***
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Re: I honestly believe Gideon will separate himself by mid season. He'll be
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Jul 4, 2025, 8:39 AM
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Hoping so , but RB by committee isn't always bad - keep guys fresh and hungry to prove themselves. Didn't we have 3 backs at or near 1,000 yards each one year under Danny - can't remember all their names
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Re: I honestly believe Gideon will separate himself by mid season. He'll be
Jul 4, 2025, 10:30 AM
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Hoping so , but RB by committee isn't always bad - keep guys fresh and hungry to prove themselves. Didn't we have 3 backs at or near 1,000 yards each one year under Danny - can't remember all their names
Kenny Flowers and Terrence Flagler but can’t think of a third. Terry Allen after those two. If we had anyone like those 3 we would be in great shape. Davidson is the one I am holding out hope for.
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Re: I honestly believe Gideon will separate himself by mid season. He'll be
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Jul 4, 2025, 12:44 PM
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With the instant player transfer it's a problem trying to keep together a 11-man roster for both sides of the ball. The transfer portal was, is the worst thing to ever happen in college sports, hands down!!!
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The portal also allows teams to quickly fill a need.
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Jul 5, 2025, 10:24 PM
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You would have thought that we would’ve made it a priority to go out and get a really good RB from the transfer portal, but we didn’t.
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Re: I honestly believe Gideon will separate himself by mid season. He'll be
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I think so too. But even etn had a learning curve. I don't have any concerns about who's going to tote the ball. The biggest concern is who's going to keep cade from getting blown up on the blind side.
If cade gets blown up a couple times early, I could see him revert back to 2 yrs ago and take off out the pocket even when there's a clean one.
Really hoping Randall can help.
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Re: TNET: Burning questions for Clemson's coaches: CJ Spiller edition
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Jul 4, 2025, 8:49 AM
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Better offensive line coaching, better play upfront, better OL recruiting will make Clemson more attractive to potential running back recruits.
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Re: TNET: Burning questions for Clemson's coaches: CJ Spiller edition
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Jul 4, 2025, 10:39 AM
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I sure get tired of hearing myself talk but here goes ( again )
The state of Texas is flush with excellent RBs
This is an empirical fact
Visit any one of the recruiting sites we've become familiar with and
see for yourself. Just plug in RB under ( position rankings ) and toggle
through the years
Just flood the state with offers
Get Riley to go out there and help. He's familiar with this area
For that matter have him talk to Lincoln
Dude is killing it at SoCal
This should not need be said but RB is as equally vital as WR
We've all seen what happens when WR recruiting goes to pot
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Re: TNET: Burning questions for Clemson's coaches: CJ Spiller edition
Jul 4, 2025, 1:05 PM
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With Garrett and Lincoln both being coaches, it would help them both if they would point players, they had no room for in each other's direction, like showing some brotherly love...
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The burning question is can CJ be nearly as good of a recruiter as he was an RB?
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Jul 4, 2025, 11:55 AM
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I think the jury is out on that. Loved, loved, loved CJ as an RB and kick/punt returner. He helped change the trajectory of Clemson football. Since he became the RB coach in February 2021 RB recruiting hasn't been great, but we'll see how the guys on the roster fare this season. CJ is credited with the following recruits per 247.
Class of...
2022: 3-star Keith Adams
2023: 3-star Jarvis Green, 3-star Jay Haynes
2024: None taken.
2025: 4-star Gideon Davidson, 4-star Marquise Henderson
2026: None. Getting late but TBD.
2027: None. But it's early. TBD.
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Sorry. I missed Class of 2024 David Eziomume 4-star (listed as "ATH")
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Jul 4, 2025, 12:57 PM
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So CJ's recruiting looks a lot better...
Class of...
2022: 3-star Keith Adams
2023: 3-star Jarvis Green, 3-star Jay Haynes
2024: 4-star David Eziomume
2025: 4-star Gideon Davidson, 4-star Marquise Henderson
2026: None. Getting late but TBD.
2027: None. But it's early. TBD.
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Questionable if dismissed 4-star RB Marquise Henderson was a recruiting win.
Jul 4, 2025, 1:03 PM
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So arguably...
Class of...
2022: 3-star Keith Adams
2023: 3-star Jarvis Green, 3-star Jay Haynes
2024: 4-star David Eziomume
2025: 4-star Gideon Davidson
2026: None. Getting late but TBD.
2027: None. But it's early. TBD.
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Re: Questionable if dismissed 4-star RB Marquise Henderson was a recruiting win.
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Jul 5, 2025, 1:22 AM
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I think the Eziomume and Davidson tandem is going to be beastly
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Re: The burning question is can CJ be nearly as good of a recruiter as he was an RB?
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Jul 5, 2025, 7:30 AM
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CJ was fantastic, as a player. There is no question. Considering his numbers, he should have been invited to NYC.
That being said, just because you are good at your position, it doesn't make you a good coach. I have repeatedly seen great employees get promoted to manager, only to see them crash and burn. The reverse is also true, as evidenced by Coach Swinney. CJ was phenomenal. He helped to build this program. He has a highlight reel that most would drool over. This is one of the issues with hiring a beloved player to fill a coaching position. If it doesn't pan out, you have to make a very difficult decision in regards to retention. I hope CJ makes it. In many programs, what he does may be enough. But Clemson is not anybody....
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