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One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 2, 2013, 3:06 PM
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Calling all haters to eat crow. Two straight games vs top 10 SEC teams and who was laying on the ground?
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If Sammy's arms were stronger, he wouldn't have
Sep 2, 2013, 3:08 PM
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bobbled that punt. Is Batson still employed?
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Or he could have carried that guy when he ran for the TD!
Sep 2, 2013, 3:17 PM
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instead of just breaking the tackle, getting off of him,
outrunning 3 or 4 other guys, and dragging a guy horse
collaring him into the end zone.
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Re: Or he could have carried that guy when he ran for the TD!
Sep 2, 2013, 5:39 PM
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Yeah I know, what a punk.
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Some people are never satisfied
Sep 2, 2013, 3:09 PM
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If you encourage them, they might start complaining again. Right after the win, some poster was saying Dabo needed his head examined. And, now there are 'Tajh was off' posts. I guess we can't just enjoy the big win.
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Re: Some people are never satisfied
Sep 3, 2013, 12:19 AM
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The person who said that Dabo needed his head examined is the biggest attention seeking troll on T-Net! Ignore him or you'll need blood pressure meds before the season is over!
As far as enjoying a big win....some people are just not capable! I'm loving it! No worries here my friend! Go Tigers!
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I think one thing the "Batson haters" may not realize is...
Sep 2, 2013, 3:12 PM
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It's the head coaches call to not use PEDs, like the majority of the SEC and a growing number of college teams are doing.
UGA was obviously a lot bigger than us. There are a ton of teams in the SEC who look similar, and Alabama for instance is just freaky. It's not that they're lifting differently or lifting more often - it's that they're using HGH to get artificially bigger and stronger. It's trickling down from the NFL and becoming a major issue.
in spite of that, we beat UGA because we had better schemes, coaching, and more heart.
But if any teams like NCST, GT, FSU, or uSC, beat us and outphysical us as they each have at times, then you can be sure the S&C program will be put on the spot again.
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At what point does the NCAA get involved?
Sep 2, 2013, 3:31 PM
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They cower to big money more than they do their job of keeping equality at the forefront of sports. I just wonder if sooner or later their hand will be forced.
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i'm assuming speculation. but it is a popular theory. teams
Sep 2, 2013, 4:52 PM
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from the sec have been associated with it before, and we all know they circumvent the rulebook anyway (proven, not speculation)when was deer antler spray in the headlines, and used by whom? usuc looks a lot bigger than a lot of the teams in the sec, and is that by genetics, or science ? i'll go with the latter.
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They're at Shaking the Southland***
Sep 2, 2013, 3:36 PM
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Re: They're at Shaking the Southland***
Sep 2, 2013, 5:03 PM
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ha ha yep, they're clowns for sure
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Gurley dragged DJ Reader into the endzone for one of his TDs***
Sep 2, 2013, 3:47 PM
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Re: Gurley dragged DJ Reader into the endzone for one of his TDs***
Sep 2, 2013, 4:49 PM
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That was Marshall the smaller of the two backs.. and Reader weighs in at a stout 335 lmmfao
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Re: Gurley dragged DJ Reader into the endzone for one of his TDs***
Sep 2, 2013, 5:43 PM
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that was Marshall.. the way that happened was not hard to understand.. he was leaning forward and Reader was on his back.. only made one more step and fell into the endzone.. will see a play like that many times this football season
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There are VERY few Batson haters
Sep 2, 2013, 4:02 PM
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While I don't think he is at the top of his field and I have been marginally critical of his program, it is quite a stretch to suggest people who question his strength approach as "haters".
There is plenty of ammunition on both sides of the aisle regarding our S&C program. My preference would be to have a truly independent firm analyze the S&C program with a knowledgeable and unbiased set of metrics. We are spending stupid amounts of money on the program now and believe spending $100K or whatever it would cost is money well spent.
You may also be giving Batson the benefit of doubt on the conditioning aspect. There have been more than a few comments that The Chad has had "issues" with the S&C program. I do think his pace has improved everyone's conditioning - perhaps you disagree but I think the evidence is self-incriminating.
I am sure Batson is a fine guy, works hard, etc. However, I want the best guy in this position because he is working YEAR round with the players. I have heard some very positive things about the new S&C assistant so hopefully that is a positive sign.
I care about the players, program and university - want us to be the very best we can possibly be in every facet. That is why one can be thrilled with our recent success and yet still keep an open/critical mindset about where we can improve.
I think an independent review would be a great benefit to the Clemson Nation.
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Why do some fans think "everything" HAS to be questioned?
Sep 2, 2013, 5:07 PM
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I'm sure Dabo has more experience than these casual fans about what constitutes a good S&C program.
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according to sbrooks' bio, it's what he does. he's pimping
Sep 2, 2013, 5:18 PM
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third party review(s) which is fine; they do have their place in the world.
not sure this particular instance would be one of those though. what the staff has done is bring in more eyes & nutritionists. more eyes, more accountability; nutrition provides the building blocks.
good, logical steps. it's what money means to a program.
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Orange Blooded [2760]
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You're an IDIOT!!
Sep 2, 2013, 5:30 PM
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you don't know the first thing about me. Keep your inbred comments to something you might have some level of competence.
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so you don't own/operate a consulting firm?
Sep 2, 2013, 5:35 PM
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you might want to change that bio.
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where did he write "no clue they are talking about???"
Sep 2, 2013, 5:39 PM
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tia
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ok, pay me 100 k, and i'll devote this entire year to find
Sep 2, 2013, 5:37 PM
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out if we are on par with other top-10 teams as far as s&c. man , you would just throw away money. the "think tank" approach is bs, evidence and proof is the only thing that will prove if we are nc contenders or not, in the s&c program.
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Re: There are VERY few Batson haters
Sep 2, 2013, 10:50 PM
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Since I must be one of those fans "without a clue," please explain to me what a knowledgable metric is? While you're at it, please identify your source that "the chad" has issues. Stating there have been more than a few comments doesn't count. Heck, I hear stupid comments at my tailgate, too.
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Re: There are VERY few Batson haters
Sep 2, 2013, 11:55 PM
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go back to numerous articles from tnet and others over the years . just because you didnt read them doesnt mean they dont exist.
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Re: There are VERY few Batson haters
Sep 3, 2013, 2:10 AM
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Here they aren't.
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Re: There are VERY few Batson haters
Sep 3, 2013, 1:24 PM
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My point was/is there is NO such thing as a "knowledgable metric". What does that mean? An evaluation tool with knowledge? The man posted something that includes things like, "I heard". That's called hearsay. Wo cares what he heard. And if in fact he has sources in the athletic department, they need to be outed. As the saying goes, loose lips sink ships. So either everyone in the athletic department needs to get on board, or get off the ship. That is my point. I don't know if Bateson is doing as good as someone else could, but lets face it, anyone that has that knowledge shouldn't be posting on tnet too begin with.
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Many workouts are involuntary due to NCAA rules. They can
Sep 2, 2013, 4:31 PM
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get as strong or in as good of shape as they choose
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Re: One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 2, 2013, 4:38 PM
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gotta love Batson. our offense psychically dominated UGA. they were worn out by halftime.
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Our players started getting tougher after TNet
Sep 2, 2013, 4:40 PM
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starting calling Batson out ... just sayin'
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graduation got rid of those that didn't want 2 play football
Sep 2, 2013, 4:45 PM
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swinney & staff filled their spots with those that did.
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There's no such thing as Batson haters.
Sep 2, 2013, 4:44 PM
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There are football fans and coach worshippers.
Coach worshippers believe everything a particular coach or set of coaches says, worship the ground they walk on, never ever blame them for anything they do wrong, and find any excuse possible or any scapegoat possible to make their favorite guy look good. "Batson haters" are just coach worshippers and Batson isn't lucky enough to be one of their favored coaches.
Then there's football fans, who just want to win.
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Re: There's no such thing as Batson haters.
Sep 2, 2013, 4:53 PM
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agree!! but several years ago when our O/L and D/L were being pushed around and their was very little player development lots of us were unhappy..I still think our S & C program needs some"tweaking"... I also understand that we refuse to use "chemicals" like the c$$ts, Bama, LSU,,, in fact, most of the SEC
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Yep, exactly right. He was just the latest scapegoat, that
Sep 2, 2013, 5:22 PM
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is all. Is he a great coach? heck I don't know, but anything and everything he does is at the direction of the head coach.
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Hey it's one of them Dabo haters showing up
Sep 2, 2013, 5:05 PM
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what ya say now? Where is your buddy Blue caddie? haven't seen him in a couple years. You mean you just want to complain?
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I say I still don't like Dabo.
Sep 2, 2013, 5:12 PM
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Sorry, just don't. I like that we won, that's great. I haven't been "bashing" Dabo. I'm glad he hired Morris and I hope we can keep him. That's all I'll say.
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Yeah like Musburger made fun of the clueless
Sep 2, 2013, 5:13 PM
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morons who wanted him fired, I guess you're one of them good ole boys huh? Get a clue
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I never wanted him hired, and I have no influence into
Sep 2, 2013, 5:21 PM
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the decision of who is hired or fired. I haven't called for Dabo to be fired.
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O yeah you're the anti american huh? forgot
Sep 2, 2013, 5:20 PM
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you're the one who said troops didn't give you freedom
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they don't.***
Sep 2, 2013, 5:21 PM
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If they didn't you'd not be free, go check out WW1 and WW2
Sep 2, 2013, 5:25 PM
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you'd be german you moron. You are the most clueless idiot I have ever seen. Please go live over seas cause you're not an American. Guilty of treason
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We had no business in WW1 or WW2, and we wouldn't have
Sep 2, 2013, 5:35 PM
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been invaded in either war. In fact, if we had stayed out of WW1, there wouldn't have been a WW2.
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Re: If they didn't you'd not be free, go check out WW1 and WW2
Sep 2, 2013, 10:56 PM
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Actually, that's wrong. The CONSTITUTION gives me MY freedom, because I am and American. The military may DEFEND my freedom, but it does NOT give it to me.
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Re: One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 2, 2013, 4:55 PM
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I wouldn't say I'm hating anyone, but I'm still not completely sold on Batson. I definitely think the Tigers were better coached than Georgia, on both sides of the ball, and you know I don't admit that too much. I did see the physicality of the LSU win carry over to last Saturday, and that was also impressive. I'm not sure exactly how Venables' 8 or 9 in-the-box defense will play against a mobile QB, or an offense that can throw quick slants and outs in that man coverage (FSU?), but it has most certainly worked very well for the past two games. The Tigers are exactly where they want and need to be, thanks to that big time win.
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Not just physical, but in great shape to no get tired
Sep 2, 2013, 5:08 PM
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like LSU, UGA and SC thur
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Re: Not just physical, but in great shape to no get tired
Sep 2, 2013, 7:59 PM
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I'd say the defense might have been tired, giving up what? 550+ yards. It's less conditioning, and more heat and humidity at this time of year. In October-November, then you suspect conditioning.
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Re: One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 2, 2013, 11:46 PM
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bottom line is it took at least 12 years of "Batson" new GAs and added S&C coaches to get to this point. Find yourself some new squawking points and continue but it has taken many years and many millions of dollars to overcome Batson inequities .
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It's more about off-season leadership and accountability.***
Sep 3, 2013, 1:14 AM
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Re: One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 3, 2013, 12:04 AM
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and the next thing is we dont eat crow . we point to what the coaches have done to improve the program in the weak places that we have pointed out . Batson was the most obvious one and the secondary is the next . I like Reed but we will have to upgrade in the future .
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Re: One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 3, 2013, 12:29 AM
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Strength and conditioning comes down to the players and what effort they want to make. They worked their butts off this summer, they want it bad!
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Re: One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 3, 2013, 12:36 AM
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wrong! you boot them when they dont work . the new staff is for "monitoring" of players not control . NCAA regulates everything my son.
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You just refuted your own argument. Get a clue or maybe
Sep 3, 2013, 1:18 AM
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find a wall. Then you can be right every time.
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Re: One question, where are the Batson haters at?
Sep 3, 2013, 1:31 AM
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