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Oh look, another racist post by NC_Tiger_***
Aug 12, 2020, 10:04 AM
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He's a guy that could be easily swayed into a 3%er or other
Aug 2, 2022, 4:40 PM
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militia group, if I had to guess. Already has the mindset, just looking for a club and a clubhouse at this point.
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First NC_Tiger post, huh?
Aug 2, 2022, 6:43 PM
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OK, we'll walk through it, since you're playing dumb. By itself, this post isn't "racist". What NC_Tiger is fishing for is for somebody to say "yes, these black people attacked this woman because they're racist against white people."
Easy enough, right? Like Tucker Carlson, he's just asking questions.
How about the next 9 times he posts a video, twitter link, whatever, of a similar event? Still "just asking questions"? Or is he now (more than) insinuating that black people, as a whole, are racist against white people? It's painfully obvious what he's doing, unless you just don't want to see it or acknowledge it. And as I said in my post below: if somebody posts 10 videos of white people inexplicably doing heinous shit to black people, does that mean all white people are racist against black people? Unless you're suddenly suspending NC_Tiger's previous logic, then yes, that must be true.
So, again, what is the point of his posts? To prove that yes, some black people are racist? That would seem to be a known and understood fact, just as there are white people who are racist, also a known fact.
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110%er [5679]
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not the point
Aug 2, 2022, 6:50 PM
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No, the point is not that some black people are racist.
I am honestly asking educated people on this board what in the life of these people causes this? What are the social dynamics in play?
You've read me say it before (maybe)...if you can't identify the problem you can't fix it.
The symptom could be some blacks are racist. But what is causing that? What's the root cause?
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So you're only interested in why some black people are
Aug 2, 2022, 6:58 PM
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racist? I'd surmise that the answer to that question is far easier to understand than "why are some white people racist?", given the relative existence of each race over the past 3 centuries in this country.
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Re: First NC_Tiger post, huh?
Aug 2, 2022, 8:28 PM
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He's insinuating that black people as a whole are a scourge on this country and are responsible for many of our countries problems.
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Insinuating?
Aug 2, 2022, 9:26 PM
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He's said as much about diversity and the problems it causes.
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Re: First NC_Tiger post, huh?
Aug 3, 2022, 8:09 AM
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It is taboo to speak of the level of crime and violence perpetrated by young black males. Its considered racism for a white person to point out certain facts even if they are statistically true. We ignore the elephant in the room.
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Re: Oh look, another racist post by NC_Tiger_***
Aug 2, 2022, 6:59 PM
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Come on Man!
You know why I believe you are the racist and not me...because you vote for people who support policies to keep these people in the state they are - dependent on the government. It's your vote and support that keeps these kids in environments that turn them into people that do this.
Congrats.
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Re: You're parroting Tucker and the longstanding rightwing
Aug 2, 2022, 8:52 PM
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And race is the only factor at play, right?
Aug 2, 2022, 9:22 PM
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That's the problem with racists like NC. They feel no desire to actually dig in past the color of the skin.
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Re: And race is the only factor at play, right?
Aug 2, 2022, 9:58 PM
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The real problem is if a person actually starts talking about root causes such as fatherless homes, behaviors that send people into poverty, narcotics addiction, these are also considered racist.
The same things happen to white people. White people have the above issues and they're white trash. Talking about these issues, as they relate to a portion of black people, are taboo.
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Maybe, but not with serious people.
Aug 2, 2022, 10:09 PM
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But here too, it also requires digging further down. I can name one issue in particular that ties into all those -- our justice system. And, in particular, the war on drugs.
When we're locking people up for non-violent drug offenses, which disproportionately impacts poor/minority communities, we're:
1) Removing an income-earner from the family.
2) Removing a care-giver from the family.
3) Creating housing instability, which has significant sociological effects.
4) Grooming the next generation to repeat the cycle of poverty, which reinforces bad behavior.
But this is where the Left really burns me up. We had growing momentum on the Right for justice reform (I mean, it wasn't Obama and Democrats who passed the First Step Act), but the "Defund the Police" BLM radicals killed it overnight. Now, no Republican is going to come close to touching justice reform at the state or federal level. Supposedly we have the votes for the EQUAL Act, but it's not looking likely to see the floor (I hope I'm wrong).
Anyways, to your original point, there are unserious people on both sides who refuse to discuss this in good faith. NC_ is one of those unserious people.
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Go back further.
Aug 2, 2022, 10:20 PM
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Lyndon Johnson was a complete and total POS racist who never seems to get called out for it, and his “Great Society” decimated the black family unit more than any war on drugs ever did. Since the 60’s the left has “helped” the black community into the positions too much of the community faces today.
Look at black two parent households and home ownership in the mid-late 60’s compared to now and it’s a bit sickening.
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Oh amen.
Aug 2, 2022, 10:27 PM
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Redlining keeping minorities (including Southern Italians) from home ownership. Restrictive covenants that barred blacks from buying in white neighborhoods. Urban renewal that razed black neighborhoods. Black and minorities were shut out of the process to start generating generational wealth that we benefit from today (e.g. did your parents, grandparents, great grandparents own their own homes?), which cannot be ignored.
And I recently saw a Twitter post of a rejection letter to a Georgia med school from back in the 50s or 60s, because the applicant was black. Wonder if keeping generation(s) of black/minorities from white collar positions played a role in poverty today? Absolutely.
It's easy to say, "Slavery ended a long time ago. Why haven't blacks got their #### together?" if you ignore 100 years of legal/cultural impediments to minorities establishing a wealth foothold.
Impediments that Democrats are as guilty (if not more so) of maintaining than Republicans. We always seem to ignore that the cultural flashpoints over police brutality happen in metro areas long-run by Democrats.
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No doubt, but look at the trend lines.
Aug 2, 2022, 10:39 PM
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The black community (despite the evils of segregation) made massive strides from the 50’s to the 60’s. For just one example, home ownership went up by almost 20% from 50’s to late 60’s.
Great Society measures literally incented the dissolution of the nuclear family in the black community. Black home ownership peaked at 42% in 1968—right when the anti-discrimination act passed (normalizing redlining practices by the US govt). In the late 20-teens, that percentage was a couple points lower than in 1968.
It’s why the continual racist accusations from the left seem so tired, and why if feels like a bit of Stockholm syndrome that the black community still votes for the left en masse. They’re meeting Einstein’s definition of insanity every election cycle.
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I'd be curious how those numbers tie in to the
Aug 2, 2022, 10:44 PM
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Federal-Aid Highway Act and when they started running highways and interstates through black neighborhoods.
But, you will find no argument from me that minorities voting Democrat is a bad idea. If only Republicans knew how to speak to Latinos. That's a natural voting bloc for the GOP if there ever was one.
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I feel that the transition is happening
Aug 2, 2022, 10:52 PM
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Moreso from the fact that Latinos are socially conservative far more than their gringo brethren, and they’ve reached some breaking points with the latest trans fad and abortion parades than from any morphing the GOP has done to attract them. Additionally, it seems that legal immigrants are really quite against illegal immigration, so that’s a losing Dem cause too.
Remains to be seen, but trends should worry (D) voters.
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Re: You're parroting Tucker and the longstanding rightwing
Aug 3, 2022, 8:53 AM
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NC says it's because of Democratic policies. What are these policies that cause the average black person yo be a violent criminal versus a peace loving hippie?
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It's probably because they're racist pieces of ####, or
Aug 2, 2022, 4:38 PM
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merely opportunist pieces of shit who would have done the same to ANY old woman, regardless of race. The simple connection that you are repeatedly failing to make is that YOU, by posting these, are attempting to insinuate that an entire race (African Americans, black people, or, in your vernacular, "the blacks") are racist towards white people. There is literally no other reason you would be posting these, over and over.
Unless, of course, you think that a video showing a Neo Nazi attacking a Jewish person or a black person would indicate that all white people are racist. You don't get to have it both ways, you simpleton.
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Re: It's probably because they're racist pieces of ####, or
Aug 2, 2022, 6:56 PM
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Not right, which seems typical.
Is there an epidemic of neo nazi's attacking jews? So much so that you can see videos of it on the street every day? If so, that's a big deal and maybe we should be talking about that.
Until then, I'm trying to address a phenomena that seems to be happening or possibly continuing and understand it.
There are smart people on here, with varied backgrounds, who might have insights I don't have.
BTW: I have ranted about the state of Jews and anti-Semitism in the past. Worldwide, the Jews have a crappy deal. It almost seems like society has given up and just accepts it.
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If you were actually serious about this issue we could dive
Aug 2, 2022, 9:25 PM
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into the sociological factors. But you're pretty dead-set on it being a pigmentation issue so why bother?
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Re: Another question - why?
Aug 2, 2022, 9:09 PM
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Not one person mentioned that the old lady was Asian. You’re all racist!!!!
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Well, according to the Woke, Asians are basically wypipo.
Aug 2, 2022, 9:23 PM
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Or, you know, Harvard wokes.
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