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Paw Master [17197]
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Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
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Dec 6, 2023, 7:23 AM
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The last thing we need is for politics to come into play
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Ron DeSantis slams CFP, wants to sue over Florida State's snub
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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis took the College Football Playoff committee to task on Tuesday, slamming its decision to exclude the undefeated Florida State football team from the four-team playoff.
DeSantis, speaking at a news conference to detail his proposed $114.4 billion budget for Florida, said he is asking for $1 million to let FSU sue the CFP committee even though the championship will be decided months before a budget is approved. The semifinals are set for Jan. 1, with the championship game to be played Jan. 8.
"My first-grader, my fifth-grader and my preschooler ... they are all Noles and they are big-time fans and they do the tomahawk chop and they were not happy," DeSantis said. "We are going to set aside $1 million and let the chips fall where they may."
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DeSantis' recommendation is simply a suggestion to the Florida Legislature, which will begin its annual session next month. Once the Legislature agrees on a spending plan, DeSantis will have power to veto individual items.
Florida State's omission from the CFP elicited a fiery response from the team and its supporters. Head coach Mike Norvell said he was "disgusted and infuriated" with the Seminoles becoming the first unbeaten Power 5 conference winner to ever miss out, while ACC commissioner Jim Phillips called the decision "unfathomable."
While Michigan (13-0, Big Ten champion), Washington (13-0, Pac-12 champion), Texas (12-1, Big 12 champion) and Alabama (12-1, SEC champion) were the top four teams who made it into the playoff, the Seminoles (13-0) were judged by an untimely run of injuries at the quarterback position.
"Florida State is a different team than it was the first 11 weeks," CFP selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan told ESPN. "As you look at who they are as a team right now, without Jordan Travis, without the offensive dynamic he brings, they are a different team and the committee voted Alabama four and Florida State five."
Travis, the ACC Player of the Year, suffered a season-ending broken leg against North Alabama in mid-November. Backup Tate Rodemaker suffered a concussion late in the Seminoles' regular-season finale at Florida, leading to true freshman Brock Glenn, the third-stringer, starting in the ACC title game -- a victory against Louisville.
Florida State, as the No. 5 seed, will face two-time defending national champion Georgia (No. 6) in the Capital One Orange Bowl on Dec. 30.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Rival Killer [2654]
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Show dogging for sure
Dec 6, 2023, 7:42 AM
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By the time this comes to court the players would be 50 years old. 🤣🤣😏
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Orange Phenom [15040]
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Re: Show dogging for sure
Dec 6, 2023, 7:43 AM
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WELL HE IS STILL LOOKING FOR VOTES IN CASE YOU FORGOT.
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Varsity [104]
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Of course he is.
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Dec 6, 2023, 7:45 AM
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Love the "we're gonna set aside $1M" quote.
"Eh, whats a mil in taxpayer dollars? Just a little folding money for my cronies over in Tallahassee to throw at a coupla of their crony lawyers to file a coupla bogus complaints in circuit court."
Gotta love it.
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National Champion [7624]
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Re: Of course he is.
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Dec 10, 2023, 11:16 AM
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That was my first impression, as well. It is mighty easy for these politicians to "set aside" someone else's money. Infuriating, is what it is!
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Campus Hero [13635]
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Dec 6, 2023, 7:58 AM
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It’s not clear to me.
Is it the First Grader, the Fifth Grader or the pre-schooler that is governing Florida?
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Athletic Dir [1131]
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Dec 6, 2023, 8:21 AM
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A thousand people a day are moving to FL from states where liberals made a mess. Glad to have him as governor. You can't say that about NY or MI or CA.
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Paw Master [17197]
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:00 PM
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I would not classify state of FL as a state with a lot of level headed people. A lot seem to be extremists.
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Legend [6622]
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The bar is set low of what liberals call extremists these days
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Dec 7, 2023, 12:43 PM
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if you believe a man and woman are different, then you are an extremist.
Florida has the best economy in the US, and they do it without a state income tax. Say what you want, numbers do not lie. The liberal states are a mess, Florida is flourishing.
https://thecapitolist.com/cnbc-florida-has-the-best-state-economy-in-america/
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Redshirt [93]
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Re: The bar is set low of what liberals call extremists these days
Dec 10, 2023, 11:11 AM
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That's interesting since California has the 5th largest economy in the world, by itself.
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Re: The bar is set low of what liberals call extremists these days
Dec 10, 2023, 11:35 AM
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How do the state taxes compare to FL?
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Rival Killer [2882]
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Re: The bar is set low of what liberals call extremists these days
Dec 11, 2023, 1:34 PM
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with a $68 billion deficit and some of the highest income taxes in the country. Florida has no income taxes and has a $21 billion surplus. Seems that 5th largest economy isn't working so well.
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
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Dec 6, 2023, 8:04 AM
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Well he took on Disney didn't he? Now he's going to have to do it again.
Imagine one company having that much influence over a state, entertainment and sports. It's time for "Roman Empire" exit for Disney.
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Game Changer [1943]
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He did, and got his butt kicked***
Dec 6, 2023, 11:49 AM
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Playmaker [370]
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What are the details?***
Dec 6, 2023, 12:06 PM
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Orange Blooded [2158]
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Re: He did, and got his butt kicked***
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Dec 6, 2023, 12:08 PM
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define butt kicked?
Disney sued DeSantis not the other way around...
Ready Creek left most of the admin to Walt Disney Parks and Resorts U.S. Inc., so the move to change the district to be under state control was largely muted... the results of that move will take time to see if the retribution was short term win the fight lose the war or not.
Disney is hemorrhaging money... Florida is not.
So not sure how this is "butt kicked" ...
Oh and HB1557 is law...
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National Champion [7689]
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Re: He did, and got his butt kicked***
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Dec 6, 2023, 12:11 PM
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Abandon whatever source you get you're news from because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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Legend [6622]
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Did he? Disney just fired their CEO for a reason
Dec 7, 2023, 12:47 PM
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He may have lost in court, but Disney lost in revenue. A LOT!
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Paw Master [16842]
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"structural rot"
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Dec 10, 2023, 11:45 AM
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....Disney defined.
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National Champion [7998]
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politics is what created the NIL.. genie has been out of the bottle since newsom
Dec 6, 2023, 8:27 AM
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was looking for some sleazy votes.
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
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Dec 6, 2023, 8:29 AM
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While I don't like government interference in football, they may have a case to be made. It just depends on what they can prove. The first thing that comes to mind is fraud. The problem is that they would have to prove that the CFP committee has communicated that an undefeated P5 Conference champ (or a similar criteria that FSU meets) would be in the CFP and did so deceivingly. I'm not aware of any explicit communication they could use to prove this. Unless they go the route of 'implied contract' citing previous actions of the CFP committee. It's possible, but it's a longshot and IMO even a guilty verdict wouldn't render much in judgement. I don't know how they could possibly penalize the CFP committee. They couldn't retroactively award FSU the championship or penalize whoever wins.
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:40 AM
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They are looking to sue for subpoena power to receive communications that may show collusion that caused 10s of millions in projected losses to a state university and constituents. As well as a breach to the GOR contract. A judge could grant that power on the basis of not following precedent as laid out, the media rights tie of CFP & ESPN, etc. Huge if, but if they could find some communication that points to collusion based on potential media revenue figures that damages FSU it could show a breach of contract.
Obviously slim chance of anything coming from it but any potential crack in the GOR armor is worth keeping an eye on.
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Game Changer [1943]
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What theyll find is that the committee thought FSU
Dec 6, 2023, 11:51 AM
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was weak without their QB.
You may think they’re dumb, but this isn’t some big conspiracy.
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Playmaker [370]
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Everyone knows why FSU was snubbed.
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Dec 6, 2023, 12:11 PM
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That doesn’t make it logical or right.
College football is the only sport to hyper focus on a beauty contest in a game where winning isn’t always pretty. That’s a fail.
Structure the playoffs just like everyone else. Release “the code” and eliminate a subjective (and ridiculous) eye test. Eyes don’t predetermine winners.
Even when we go to 12 next year, we need to see the algorithm and vote process.
It’s not that hard.
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Game Changer [1943]
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Well everyone including FSU agreed to this subjective process.
Dec 6, 2023, 7:31 PM
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Doesn’t make it right, but a lawsuit would be a joke. Not that it would actually happen, this is just political pandering.
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:41 AM
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Do it Desantis! Of course your presidential aspirations will have to be put on hold as we put the main man Donald John Trump back in office but doing things like this and what you have already done to Disney will definitely push me to consider you in the future
MAGA 2024 FJB
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Anything that is polarizing and unsolvable is a politician's dream.***
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:43 AM
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Rival Killer [2727]
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It cost Fla St and the state itself millions of dollars***
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:45 AM
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Paw Master [16842]
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:45 AM
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"Florida State" is a State supported university so you could say that the gubermint is not only involved and has been in a long time in many aspects just as Clemson is supported by the State of SC. I do understand you are referring to State involvement in sports but we already know that the Feds and States have been involved in sports for sometime also. I'm not advocating that past interference and any future involvement of the gubermint in sports is good just laying it out there that it is nothing new. Politics and gubermint interference (by the gamecoots of the day) was involved in the very founding of Clemson.
I would have preferred to wait until the outcome of the Orange Bowl before ratcheting up any real action but I believe the goal is not to seek compensation but rather seek transparency on what happened in the inner workings. Many might say they don't care or are not interested but I do believe everyone would be interested in knowing if the process was fair or if coerced or if racketeering was present.
As far as DeSantis and his governance goes you can't argue with the results but the leftist aren't happy because Florida is not failing California.
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:46 AM
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He is just pandering. He would have no case. Waste of time.
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Orange Phenom [14588]
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Politicking for votes
Dec 6, 2023, 9:46 AM
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I'm surprised he said all 3 of his kids are Noles fans. A good politician would force at least one to be a Gator.
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Paw Master [16842]
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Re: Politicking for votes
Dec 6, 2023, 11:50 AM
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Well the State capital is in Tallahassee. Maybe if they moved the capital to Gainsville it would be different.
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Athletic Dir [1121]
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Dec 6, 2023, 11:21 AM
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Good. The first one subpoenaed should be that testicles announcer who was throwing shade at the ACC while live covering the ACC championship game. He was making fun of all the punts etc on national TV. Hell put the idiot in handcuffs for all I care.
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Joe "Testi-tore".***
Dec 7, 2023, 2:48 PM
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Dec 6, 2023, 11:36 AM
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I hope he does. The more heat that is brought the less likely it will happen again. They broke the ice with this stupid decision, a barrier that no other committee dared to breach. Now that is has, it will be easier to do again and again. I wish every ACC school and anybody else that feels led to would sue the committee. Personally and corporately.
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Dec 6, 2023, 11:47 AM
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He and Rick Scott are both just showboats and I say that as a proud conservative. Neither of these characters give 2 hoots about FSU but they sure like the publicity generated from coming out about it.
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 6, 2023, 11:53 AM
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you don't think politics are already in play?
CFP is huge for a school... you witnessed the impact at Clemson... all that money and growth came after we went to the Natty... also has its downside...
FSU getting boxed out is bad for FSU, the Conference and every team in the Conference ... winning every game may not be enough...
The new 12 team is going to be very SEC/B1G heavy, couple other teams scattered in there...1st round games will be huge money makers for the higher ranked (home/host) team... kinda fitting for today's world ... win and lose money but you get a week of rest...
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 6, 2023, 12:26 PM
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It's being set up so that the ACC will get one team along with the Big 12 and the other ten spots will be dominated by the media darling conferences. The sooner somebody calls BS on this new arrangement the better.
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 6, 2023, 12:05 PM
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The last thing we need is for politics to be involved....
Don't you think it's a bit late for that? Truth is, this was my knee-jerk as well. But the State of Fla has FSU, Miami and U of Fla to worry about. How many constituents are fans of these 3? Also, if you weren't aware, the state legislature is also reported to be hoping mad - is not just DeSantis by a long shot.
Ideally elected politicians should have no room in college athletics but when the CFP Committee leaves this many people hacked off, politics, and the courts, can be expected to get involved. Oh. if this weren't bad enough, we had some clowns visit DC the other day insisting that college sports cannot survive unless Congress gets involved.
I don't like it, but our country is such that most sides are so focused on having their own way that they are killing much of what is (has been) good about this country. So much so that we should now expect politics and scorched earth to be invoked with most every disagreement.
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Game Changer [1930]
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 6, 2023, 12:47 PM
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Politics were heavily involved already - just not among elected officials.
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Dec 6, 2023, 12:54 PM
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FSU will likely lose to UGA by double digits.
Then that $1M will seem like a waste.
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 6, 2023, 2:15 PM
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DeSantis is an anti business big government idiot.
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Game Changer [1893]
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 6, 2023, 2:58 PM
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To sue you have to have evidence of wrongdoing to get a case in court. If a committee member was on the take or something, this might marginally make sense. Im the absence it’s just political grandstanding.
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Dec 7, 2023, 1:21 PM
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Do by their reasoning FSU without Travis is still better than UGA that got upset by Bama but they have no chance against anyone ranked above them
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Dec 7, 2023, 2:35 PM
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maybe if Gov pretty boots spent that time and the taxpayers money helping the elderly residents of his state with their sky rocketing insurance costs (if they can buy any at all) it might be better spent
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 7, 2023, 3:01 PM
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like politics and money were not already in play
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Does he lose votes from Gator and Hurricane fans... not to mention
Dec 10, 2023, 11:30 AM
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all votes from Alabama and other states with teams affected by his point of view?
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 10, 2023, 11:42 AM
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I am not a DeSantis supporter but I can appreciate a Gov who stands up for the institutions in his state.
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 11, 2023, 1:45 PM
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It’s comical that you don’t want politics to come into play when the committee is nothing but politics.
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 11, 2023, 1:50 PM
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You are correct !!!! It is nothing but political already with the SEC leading the campaign !!!
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Orange Blooded [2473]
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Re: Desantis wants to sue CFL Committee , SMH
Dec 11, 2023, 2:02 PM
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Macodi & other supporters of lil Ron ……. individuals might be moving to Florida, but none of those individuals are going there for jobs. That’s because new businesses are NOT moving to Florida, except for a few finance firms moving to Miami area.
Ron’s childish tactics with Disney are anti-business and have caused relocating businesses and new businesses to completely take Florida off of their radar screen. In the meantime Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and South Carolina are knocking it out of the park with respect to economic development, new manufacturing, etc. Economic development authorities in Florida are dead in the water. No business will relocate there after seeing the BIG government precedent that Ron set with Disney.
And don’t tell me that Disney had some kind of tax holiday. Ron knows the truth. Disney built a municipality that has housed all of their entities on that municipality land since they first moved a brick decades ago. Disney created their own municipality and therefore governed themselves at the municipal level and provided their own services for water, sewer, fire, and electric. Fortunately we live in a country where a business is free to do so ……. until a petulant childish bureaucrat named Ron pops up and decides to attack that business from the governors mansion.
Keep the government out of my business.
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