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Our fanbase has gone insane
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:27 AM
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TL;DR- I'm a public institution educated neanderthal caveman named Tyler. I was happily proven wrong and proud of the team and the staff for showing up to play.
I'm so happy we beat ND. I hate ND. Easily neck and neck for my #2 most hated program spot w/ tOSU behind the leg humpers. Needed that win, needed to go in dry, needed to hit em in the mouth on our home field the same way they did to us last year. Loved it.
But why's everyone coming after anyone who had any criticism of how this team's playing like this is the 2023 version of the Salem witch trials?
A) We're 5-4 II) We scored 0 points in the 4th quarter, again.
We had more positives than negatives. About as many as you'll have with a 5-4 team. - We held on to the W thanks in part to a fantastically called second half by Pit Viper wearin not GAF bout his diet pork chop. Good #### brother. - We actually won the field possession battle. Finally. JMFC our special teams finally showed up to play. - We won the turnover battle. Hallelujah...FINALLY. - We had ZERO penalties. That's wild to me. If we were undefeated or something, looking at a shot to get into the CFP, I'd say this was rigged, lol. No one plays a perfect game. But hey, we needed a GD break so thank whoever you prayed to that we finally got one. - Clearly we've been featuring the wrong back, and not coaching our previous back to run with patience required for a zone blocking scheme. - We FINALLY got pressure on a QB. The best one we'll face all year, with the best OL, is the only one we've got pressure on. I have no idea how this makes sense but gahlee I'll take it.
These are improvements we needed to see from camp to week 1, then week 1 to week 2, and be refined week 2 to week 3. Here we are going into Week 10 celebrating being able to (most of the time) get the snap, hand it off, and get 3 or 4 yards. Or catching the ball. Hell I come out of my chair when we make a catch these days, so don't tell me bout no appreciation.
Defensively, outside of maybe 2 drives, best called game of the year, hands down. I thought after the first drive we were about to get our azzholez pushed in. We were able to slow the run down enough to get a lead, and then at that point they had to throw it. Now, if I'm an ND fan, I'm Tyler level pissed off at my OC for not coming back to the run game in the 4th Q haha. But hey, like I posted during the game, nice to see another coaching staff coach their way out of a ball game for a change.
I loved some of the DL personnel groupings that I don't remember seeing a lot of this year. At one point I saw 12, 3, 11, 13, and 19 on the field. 19 is an animal and idk wheredafuq he been. Dude was swallowing domer lineman like DSP swallowing dabo's baby juice.
Pork Chop's gotta stop going into prevent defense early in the second half. Stop it. It killed us against FSU, it killed us against Miami, and it bout killed us Saturday. Run down hill and blow their ############# #### up.
Offensively, I still can't fathom what we do during the week. I'm sorry. I can be happy we won and still think we could get this level of production out of a coaching staff w/ half the price tag. I appreciated the shift in the game plan to get the ball out of 2s hands quick. Obviously the differentiator for us was establishing a run game. And we took way more quick pass hits than screen hits for a change. Only had 1 critical sack that stood out to me. All that was nice to see.
- I don't think we've ever practiced a 2 minute drill. Would've been a nail in the coffin to get 6 going into the half there, or add to our cushion and get 3. What we did was gutless, IMO.
- I loved the 2 TE set we were running, but it was pretty obvious where the ball was going - that's where ever 11 was motioning. To get away from this, don't take 11 out of the game and have 13 block instead, maybe just have 2 pull a couple lol. Or keep coming back to the pop slants over the middle.
- OL had their best game, again - oddly, against one of the better front 7s we'll see all year. Personnel grouping seems to be a good combo. We still can't block a twist. I'll give benefit of the doubt to the young guys and let em correct that going into next 2 weeks (again, week 2 or 3 improvement). We did a good job scheming around our OL which is how we've done it for years.
- We need to get 6 the ball more. I couldn't tell if he was getting doubled or what, but he needs more targets and touches. 10 and 80 are getting better and better - they come back to the football. FINALLY. Definitely miss 0. I'd like to see someone light a fire under 8s ### b/c I know he has it and is an absolute stud. He just has to want it.
- We substitute too much on Offense. When we have personnel matchups we want, we need to exploit them and keep the defensive unit on the field w/ tempo. Maybe that's a year 2 installment, lol, but that was frustrating the hell out of me Saturday watching that ref just let ND sub 5 or 6 times a drive.
We continue to get stonewalled late in games. Part of it seems like we get too cute on tendency breakers, part of it seems like we've blown our load and have nothing else? Idk, it's wild. Part of it also just Dabo's mindset of being conservative, so we'll have to live with it to some degree.
But this is why we couldn't put FSU away, it's why we couldn't put Miami away, and it's why Pork Chop had to bail us out Saturday. We've got to step on teams' throats and finish games. Big leads help your defense more than anything. One possession games late terrify the crap outta me b/c we can't give ourselves a cushion.
It's always easier to watch tape after a win. I've had way, way, way worse film sessions after a W than I have after an L. If you play sound football and get beat, that's part of the game. You're certainly not going to win every rep, and you aren't going to win every game either.
If you play mistake ridden football, but hang onto the W, be thankful you did enough to win but fix the #### and clean it up.
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Had a bunch of young dudes step up in the secondary too...
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:33 AM
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can't understate that. And it seemed like they were facing pretty good wideouts.
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yeah good call. left that out
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:34 AM
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our DBs are our best coached unit. Mike Reed's the MF'in man.
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tl;dr
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:33 AM
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but what does money got to do with anything? If he made half the salary, would that be ok?
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this is america bro. it's all about
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:35 AM
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https://youtu.be/-0kcet4aPpQ?si=xwqoaJVsxp9Rqp-I
Now we trying to go a doobie deep and talk about why everything in the world is compared to an artificial measurement of value?
Or you just wanna know why I continue to harp on spending $20M in coaching and getting a $10M product?
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yeah, I don't know
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 AM
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Dabo got what the going rate was combined with his current success at the time, the way it should be
I am fine with what he is making, it don't befront me
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Yeah, salaries don't get adjusted when a kicker misses from 29 yards
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:57 AM
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or a rb drops the foosball at the 1 yard line.
That would be dumb.
Sorry, I didn't read the entire OP because too long (TWSS).
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completely agree
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:34 AM
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and think Dabo's paid his value as well.
but we're getting a $10M product for $20M in spend.
both can be true here.
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welcome to Merica
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:37 AM
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pal
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now I'm not exactly happy wit dat boy right meow
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:43 AM
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but I still love him enough to not go that low haha
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You ever pee outside when it's really windy?***
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:35 AM
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Re: Our fanbase has gone insane
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Nov 6, 2023, 10:51 AM
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I think the root of the problem was very plainly exposed last week, there is a significant portion of the fan base that believes that one man is bigger than Clemson.
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Obviously happy we won
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:02 AM
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We badly needed a positive result and hope we can use this to go on a run and salvage recruiting going into next year, but I really think it's obvious that the passing offense is still kind of a mess.
109 passing yards and 4.2 YPA despite ND starting to sell out on the run and a QB where the light isn't coming on when it comes to pocket presence. Feel like CK either gets happy feet or keeps trying to roll outside and ends up in a throwaway when the pocket breaks down and he's missing opportunities to either step up and make a throw or step up and run for a first down.
The WR room is obviously lacking and it's killing us not having Williams healthy all year - but Riley handeled CK in the 4th quarter like someone who has to take away the keys from their grandfather after he had 4 glasses of wine at dinner and put them in the back seat.
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Butt also - really proud of defense stepping up with the injuries
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:08 AM
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Thought we would get torched with the injuries in the secondary and defense recovered super well after it looked like ND was going to run all over us early.
Also was I the only one wondering why we kept handing off to Mafah in shotgun at the very very end? I understand run plays can burn more clock and we were trying to get it to zero, but seems like the plays were only burning 3-4 seconds which could have been re-created with a kneel down and less fumble risk?
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Dabo said they were running at the end because there were a few more seconds
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:14 AM
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left than they could burn with just taking a knee, according to their chart. This is confirmed by the airball throw needed on 4th down. But it does seem like they could have accomplished same by taking a sloowww kneee, but I'm just a public-school educated casual fan.
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I, too, was pacing thinkin we bouta
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:35 AM
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cristobal ourselves outta the Dub
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You'd bich if you were hung with a new rope.
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:42 AM
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I think we saw the light at the end of the tunnel.
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lol
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Nov 6, 2023, 11:45 AM
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k
I think your rope thing must be a generational issue. I know I'm like 40 years younger than you but that one ain't registering.
but like I said, I'm a public institution educated neanderthal
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