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CU Medallion [66085]
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Now that USC has literally bought the best WR in the nation
May 2, 2022, 9:21 AM
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using NIL, how soon will CFB be dead to you ?
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Heisman Winner [119723]
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Sticking with it this year w/ 14 tix
May 2, 2022, 9:23 AM
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Next year will drop back significantly
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This is me, too. Can’t see me staying the course another
May 2, 2022, 8:03 PM
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year.
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All-In [46825]
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CFB has been dead
May 2, 2022, 9:25 AM
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this is just the rolling in the grave part
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All-In [40656]
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DJU ruined college football for me
May 2, 2022, 9:32 AM
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Allowing this photo to be taken.
Chelsea are trying to ruin the PL for me by playing Charity FC over the last four PL matches.
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All-TigerNet [13764]
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Let's hope they stay in that form 2 more matches***
May 2, 2022, 11:10 AM
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Oculus Spirit [85339]
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Maybe you didn't notice the Texas A&M recruiting class***
May 2, 2022, 9:37 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83127]
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If I had gone to school at Bama, UGA, LSU, Ohio State, USC,
May 2, 2022, 9:54 AM
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Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, etc. I wouldn't be worried about NIL at all.
When you're a fan or alumnus of a relatively small state school without the tradition nor fundraising abilities of those above, and a relatively new elite football power, it worries me.
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Re: Now that USC has literally bought the best WR in the nation
May 2, 2022, 10:05 AM
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Cannot remember the last time I watched an entire football game. Seems kind of boring to me now.
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CU Medallion [50635]
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sticking with my 4 tix for now cause no iptay dues needed***
May 2, 2022, 10:16 AM
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All-TigerNet [14282]
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It's very close to dead.
May 2, 2022, 10:18 AM
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I'll tune in this season, but it's hard to care.
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All-TigerNet [11640]
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What's the story here?
May 2, 2022, 11:16 AM
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College foosball is dying a slow death so I'm not keeping up.
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All-In [43769]
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A guy that entered the portal like today is
May 2, 2022, 11:22 AM
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internet rumored to be signing a $3m+ NIL deal and also getting a house and maybe a car to transfer to the real USC.
Straight up internet rumor at this point.
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They guy from Pitt?***
May 2, 2022, 11:25 AM
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Si***
May 2, 2022, 11:29 AM
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All-In [43769]
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And actually, he may not have even entered the portal.
May 2, 2022, 11:39 AM
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Real hard to know what to even believe here.
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Re: Now that USC bought best WR / CFB in death spiral
May 2, 2022, 12:00 PM
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College FB is not just on the Hell-bound train for the also-ran schools. The 'big name / big money' schools are also on those rails, but may not know it yet.
The death spiral has begun. Here's the trajectory:
Step 1: The fans of 'also ran' schools (let's use Pitt) realize that any stud player which they recognize through good film study and then sign (through hard work + some luck) will leave via the portal to go to the "NIL promised land" schools.
Step 2: The fans of 'also ran' schools (OK, it will be "Pitt" from now on) lose interest in CFB because they realize that any chance of a superior season and the excitement that goes with it is gone. The Pitt fans largely stop going to games, stop donating to the Panther Club, and stop watching CFB on TV. To them (in the words of B.B.King), "The Thrill is Gone." Pitt drops back to a lower FB classification.
Step 3: TV ratings suffer an overall steep decline ... even though the fans of the few lucky "big name / big money" schools which can fund massive NIL deals are living in "high cotton." (Let's use "USC" and "Bama" as the representative "big name / big money" schools.) Athletic facilities, coaching and player development programs, programs to help CFB players outside of FB such as our PAW program, lose their funding, and with it the attraction of CFB to HS athletes.
Step 4: Declining TV ratings impact 'conference deals' which help to prop up USC. Ever-poorer quality of competition makes the USC games boring. USC can schedule more games among the Bama and its twins. But the overall national appeal of CFB just ain't what it used to be. CFB to the remaining USCs and Bamas of the world becomes similar to what Polo represents to Harvard and Yale. Exciting for the USC / Bama --- Harvard / Yale fans, but not much to the rest of the world.
Step 5: NFL quality declines. If CFB produces fewer skilled players, then the NFL will suffer.
SUMMARY: The USCs and Bamas of the world will, due to the lack of a coherent program by the NCAA, create their own demise as far as even most of their own fans giving a shizz about the new boring CFB.
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All-In [49050]
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or, The 10-12 "elite" programs emerge...
May 2, 2022, 12:14 PM
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and a few others with huge alumni bases follow. Michigan, USC, Texas A&M, Bama, but also UCF, FIU, University of Illinois, Georgia State, ASU, Minnesota.
Eventually, schools with huge enrollments and Alumni bases become the destination for College coaches and administrators who know how to build a football program. You'll just have an NFL junior league.
However, some of these kids will make enough in college that they won't really GAS about the NFL.
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Lot o points [155943]
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It'll be more like 3-4.
May 2, 2022, 4:52 PM
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Nobody will compete with the Texas, Michigan, and Ohio State's of the world. Texas fans are looking at what A&M pulled this year and thinking "that's cute" as they get ready to blow them out next year.
Those schools (and maybe 1-2 more) will be like Kiffin predicted----the NFL without a salary cap.
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Re: It'll be more like 3-4.
May 2, 2022, 7:38 PM
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Whether 3 - 4 or 10 - 12, it matters little.
The wealthy few will be supporting their CFB team, but the rest of the country won't care. TV ratings will plummet, HS player quality (i.e., FB skills) will plummet, and the wealthy few programs will be praying that their big time boosters will cough up more jack to pay off their Taj Mahal athletic facilities.
In between catching some flounder or whiting at the coast ... or some small mouth bass in the East Coast hills ... I'll cynically laugh my ### off when hearing the news that the 'chosen dozen' are demolishing their FB facilities due to disrepair and no money to maintain them.
I sure hope that Clemson's brain trust delays major new expenditures (yeah yeah, the new Scoreboard is a done deal) and harbors our money to maintain the existing infrastructure.
Look, the 2023 and maybe 2024 seasons may still be interesting, but the NIL Hades Bound Train is speeding down the tracks. Unless the NCAA gets some real brains and some real courage (Wizard of Oz, anyone?) then in the lyrics sung decades ago by Ozzy Osbourne ... "Satan laughing, spreads his wings."
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's getting close.
May 2, 2022, 3:58 PM
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"NIL" is just the cherry on top. I was in favor of NIL and regret it. David Hale (I think) had a great thread discussing how deals like this aren't really NIL, they are just pay to play by a different name.
Over the past 10(?) years, the playoff, more replay, larger conferences, more TV-driven game setup, transfer portal, COVID, the cost, and family obligations have all led to me watching less college football and enjoying the sport less overall. I always believed I would live to see Clemson win another Natty. We won two, so the rest is gravy.
I am wary of blaming the "media" but it seems like there are a lot of writers/talking heads who offer suggestions on how to improve the game (which always seem to benefit their employers), those changes make it worse, and those same people offer more suggestions.
If the top revenue teams really do split away from the rest of college football to form a pay for play league, I'd rather Clemson remain in the more traditional organization. We've proven that we can win at the highest level. We have nothing left to prove. I'd rather us stay committed to a more traditional college football model.
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Lot o points [155943]
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Yessir. Said it before and I'll say it again.
May 2, 2022, 4:47 PM
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The success has been great, fun, special, etc......I've enjoyed the wins, but I've hated the changes that came with the wins.
Gimme Tommy Bowden and 8-5 or 9-4 all day long if if means the corporate d-bags drop out of IPTAY and season tix (and good parking) are reasonable again, Clemson is no longer the dream school du jour for the entire Mid-Atlantic seaboard, rent downtown drops to a point where local restaurants outnumber chains, and Tom Winkopp has to demolish all his crappy apartment buildings downtown because there aren't enough people to fill them.
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CU Medallion [66085]
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I hate being the old man yelling at cloud
May 3, 2022, 9:20 AM
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but I agree. I miss little ol' Clemson, the old sleepy college town.
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DAMMYOU Nancy Pelosi.*********
May 2, 2022, 5:53 PM
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Lot o points [163012]
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If I'm Dabo, I'm thinking about moving on to a place
May 2, 2022, 7:29 PM
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that can provide that type of cash to players.
Requirement - must be a southern school, prob gotta be SEC.
Bama is in the picture obviously as Saban might just tire of this coaching stuff, but assuming that ain't happening for a few years, I think Texas would be high on the list. They will get rid of Sark if he repeats what he just did, especially if they could get Dabo.
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Re: If I'm Dabo, I'm thinking about moving on to the NFL***
May 2, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Lot o points [163012]
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Agree
May 2, 2022, 8:43 PM
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and why not?
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Heisman Winner [135615]
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Who knows what Dabo is really thinking but
May 3, 2022, 8:09 AM
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Dabo isn't built for the NFL. His formula won't work there. You can argue that college football is a cutthroat business, but it doesn't hold a candle to the NFL in that regard. I just don't see him being a success there, and it doesn't help that he's not really what I would call a masterful or innovative Xs & Os guy. He's very much in the mold of Bobby Bowden...another guy I don't think would have thrived in the league.
I also don't see Texas as a choice for Dabo. Austin is the one tiny island in Texas where there's a far more liberal attitude. It just doesn't have that religious conservative setting that Dabo would seem much more comfortable in. I could be wrong, but let's be honest...HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN???
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