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we are still 11th in all time appearances
Mar 18, 2019, 12:34 AM
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Despite the decade drought
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Many of them were a long time ago though.
Mar 18, 2019, 12:42 AM
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Here are our CWS appearances:
1958, 1959, 1976, 1977, 1980, 1991, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2002, 2006, 2010.
Eight of our twelve CWS appearances occurred before any of our current players were born, and our last one occurred when they were in elementary school.
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that's the case for many of the teams ahead of us on that list
Mar 18, 2019, 12:46 AM
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Southern Cal hasn't been since the early 2000s. Miami, Arizona State, Ok State haven't been very often since 2000.
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Correct. Which is why we fired a Hall of Fame coach.
Mar 18, 2019, 3:23 AM
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Because we shouldn't accept mediocrity that long.
Which is why Brad is going to be gone after next year.
And if Monte does as bad as Brad, he won't last 9 years either.
Thanks for reminding us of why we need to fire Brad.
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This isn’t a basketball thread.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:47 AM
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Hence my not mentioning basketball in the post and also being sure to add this to the baseball board.
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Re: Is making it to the CWS really a realistic expectation for our baseball program?
Mar 18, 2019, 12:37 AM
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Is this satire so you can make another point about basketball?
Of course it is reasonable to expect Clemson baseball to make the CWS. It won’t happen every year and there have been a few dry spells, but we are a top tier baseball program historically.
Fan support is excellent. Facilities are top notch. Tradition is there.
Please don’t let the low expectations way too many settle for in basketball infect our baseball program.
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Not satire at all. It’s an honest question.
Mar 18, 2019, 12:46 AM
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I have read several posts here this weekend with multiple people wanting Monte Lee fired. It just seems delusional to act like he’s underachieving somehow, when we aren’t even a top 20 program over the last decade.
Can we become one? Absolutely! And we should strive for that. But it seems silly to act like anything less than Omaha is a failure at this point when we haven’t even won an NCAA regional in 9 years.
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Re: Not satire at all. It’s an honest question.
Mar 18, 2019, 12:57 AM
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I have never seen a post wanting ML fired.
There was one earlier that said he hasn’t done anything but it did say fire him
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Re: Not satire at all. It’s an honest question.
Mar 18, 2019, 1:36 AM
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Any one posting about wanting ML fired is an absolute moron who knows nothing about baseball. You can complain about some the decisions sometimes, be it lack of small ball, line up calls, etc. but if you've watched us play the last couple of years you can tell Lee is a #### good coach.
One I personally expect will make many trips to omaha if we support and could finally bring a CWS trophy back to Clemson.
Jack never got it done, but he was still a great coach, who I thought was going to be hard to follow. The team wasn't where it needed to be, and as much as I loved watching his teams growing up as child and respect what he did for university it was time. Lee has come in and improve every year. Getting to omaha is hard and people don't always seem to remember that.
Rant over.
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Re: Not satire at all. It’s an honest question.
Mar 18, 2019, 8:02 AM
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You haven’t seen any posts saying fire monte. Where do you come up with this stuff? Just go back to the basketball board. Forget Omaha we just need to win a regional first
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I wasn’t drawing comparisons to basketball.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:08 PM
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If I were, I would’ve mentioned basketball.
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Re: It's obvious what you were suggesting.
Mar 18, 2019, 10:52 PM
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You know it and so do I. You just took a more passive aggressive approach this time.
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What are you talking about?
Mar 18, 2019, 10:59 PM
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The two sports aren't comparable at all. Basketball is a revenue generating sport, baseball isn't. Basketball uses full scholarships for the roster, while baseball uses mostly partial scholarships. Basketball has a history of being the worst in the ACC's history, while baseball is among the ACC's best historically.
I have no desire to draw any comparisons between the two. Apples and oranges.
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Re: Funny how once in 12 years is enough in one sport and twice
Mar 18, 2019, 1:02 AM
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I do believe we just fired a HOF coach that accomplished way more that Brownell.
ML has only been here for 3 full seasons and this year is a rebuild. I can assure you if we don’t at least win a regional in the next 2 years. His seat will get warm.
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Re: Funny how once in 12 years is enough in one sport and twice
Mar 18, 2019, 1:14 AM
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That's 2 completely different things. Making the final 8 in baseball vs making the tourney at all in basketball. If we'd only made the baseball tourney twice in nine years, that would not be acceptable. We've made the baseball tourney 30 out of the last 31 years.
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I figured I would just talk out of my ### about baseball
Mar 18, 2019, 12:15 PM
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because so many baseball fans like doing it about basketball
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^ Story checks out.***
Mar 18, 2019, 12:28 PM
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you bit, that was the point, thank you for playing***
Mar 18, 2019, 12:44 PM
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What did I bite on? I bit on something by
Mar 18, 2019, 12:49 PM
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asking you what you were talking about in comparing not making a basketball tournament to not making the CWS? I was asking clarifying questions, I had no idea what you were talking about and still don't. That's not a "me" problem, that's a "you" problem.
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Link to where I mentioned soccer, tennis, golf or CC?***
Mar 18, 2019, 12:42 PM
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So you're not denying the football & basketball part?***
Mar 18, 2019, 1:02 PM
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that was the joke Bob***
Mar 18, 2019, 1:07 PM
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HA HA
Mar 18, 2019, 1:09 PM
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I totally get it.
LMAO
OMG
ROFLolling
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can you explain it to Bob?***
Mar 18, 2019, 1:10 PM
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Explain what?
Mar 18, 2019, 1:14 PM
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Let's not pretend for a second that had one of y'all said
Mar 18, 2019, 1:16 PM
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that, it wouldn't be a trophy post...We ALL know better than that
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If bob said it...
Mar 18, 2019, 1:22 PM
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I would have given it a TD.
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^^^^^^^Future trophy post^^^^
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Re: Is making it to the CWS really a realistic expectation for our baseball program?
Mar 18, 2019, 12:39 AM
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Re: Is making it to the CWS really a realistic expectation for our baseball program?
Mar 18, 2019, 12:41 AM
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We are a long way away from the teams in the 90s and up to 2010. 2-3 of those years we should have won the CWS but didn’t. I can see us getting better as the year goes on and maybe making a super.
I can also see this young team struggling and barely make a regional. The past 2 years we have peaked early then ran out of gas. I hope this year we get better and are playing good ball at the end.
These freshman starters have already about threw as many innings in a HS season and have a long way to go.
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I think it's been so long that people have forgotten
Mar 18, 2019, 1:00 AM
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Re: I think it's been so long that people have forgotten
Mar 18, 2019, 1:07 AM
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2004 I believe we were the #1 overall seed and before the CWS started , the experts thought we would breeze to the NC. The whole team went cold for the first time all season. In 2010 us and the Coots were the best teams there but they put us in the same bracket.
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2002 I remember all too well
Mar 18, 2019, 1:19 AM
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Re: 2002 I remember all too well
Mar 18, 2019, 7:36 AM
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Dang that brings back some bad memories. Greene booted two balls against the coots, after not committing an error in like 752 straight games. They couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat and the coots again knocked us out of the cws, when all we had to do was beat them once in 2 games. At least they lost to Texas in the Championship.
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Re: I think it's been so long that people have forgotten
Mar 18, 2019, 7:32 AM
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It was 2006 when we were the #1 overall seed. We won our opener then were shut down by UNCs current pitching coach. Dude was a lefty and topped out at like 86 that game, but we couldn’t touch him. We got knocked out the next game. Certainly a very disappointing end to the season.
In 2010, all we had to do was beat the coots once in 2 games to advance to the cws finals, but once again we were shut down by a soft tossing lefty. Then they beat us again to knock us out and eventually win the natty. Again, a terrible end to a great season.
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Re: I think it's been so long that people have forgotten
Mar 18, 2019, 8:00 AM
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That unc game was tough in 2006. Stephen Faris pitched a heckuva game.
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Re: I think it's been so long that people have forgotten
Mar 18, 2019, 1:41 AM
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I still believe in my heart of hearts that had we not gotten matched with them in Omaha we win that year. Rivalries are funny things. We had the momentum, you could feel it. Anybody else, I think we win. Instead, losing that first game flipped everything on it's head. They rode that, all the way to finish line, two years in a row.
Man, it still stings.
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Re: I think it's been so long that people have forgotten
Mar 18, 2019, 3:11 AM
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Seems like we started 2010 kind of slow and got hot at the right time. Yep we were playing good ball until the coots . The first pitch of the first game HR Tigers and then nothing as the Coots beat us twice.
I thought we were winning the NC before that Coot game lol
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Re: I think it's been so long that people have forgotten
Mar 18, 2019, 3:20 AM
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Thinking back it might have been 2002 when we hit the first pitch for a HR. Heck I don’t remember what year that was
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Not until the NCAA addresses the inequities in how some
Mar 18, 2019, 12:55 AM
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Universities like Vanderbilt Are able to use large endowment funds to provide more scholarships to his baseball players. When you have a playing roster of 29 players and only 11.7 scholarships for those players if you don’t have a large endowment you’re in a big disadvantage to the schools that do. Also states like Florida that fully fund college education also have an advantage because the cost of going to school in Florida to state university is significantly less than in the state of South Carolina.
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Re: Not until the NCAA addresses the inequities in how some
Mar 18, 2019, 12:52 PM
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THIS..... THIS!!!!!
Anyone who doesn't know about the scholarship differences in baseball needs to read up on the issue before bashing Monte for losing to Vanderbilt (one of the main benefactors of the scholarship differences) in regionals.
There is a reason that some of these schools can convince pitchers who are throwing 95 as a high school senior to come play for 3 years.
Lots of private schools can offer much larger percentages of tuition to baseball players through those endowment funds than public schools like Clemson who are handcuffs with the 11.7.
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yes***
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Re: Is making it to the CWS really a realistic expectation for our baseball program?
Mar 18, 2019, 1:54 AM
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Re: Is making it to the CWS really a realistic expectation for our baseball program?
Mar 18, 2019, 2:16 AM
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Re: Is making it to the CWS really a realistic expectation for our baseball program?
Mar 18, 2019, 7:59 AM
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It used to be until our baseball fans started settling for mediocrity like you in basketball. It’s fans like you that kept jack around for 2 years too long. Maybe now we would be in year 6 with Monte making omaha
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Not the way we're playing right now, but we have the
Mar 18, 2019, 9:21 AM
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talent to if we improve on our weak areas.
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