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Judge Kellar Attacks
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Judge Kellar Attacks

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Feb 28, 2025, 5:50 AM
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In watching this board over time I think the attacks on JK demonstrate a lack of understanding about him as I can see where he is coming from. I understand that Clemson is ( and always will be ) a " football school". That being said it is amazing to me the percentage of CU fans that don't seem to understand that BASKETBALL IS A BIG D ..N DEAL !!! I know a lot of Clemson fans that despite basketball success dont even know when the basketball team is playing ? ! The idea that softball or baseball is even a bigger deal to them demonstrates their ignorance of the overall national importance of sports. Nationally basketball IS A BIG DEAL !These are the ones that are critical of Coach Brownell because they " hear" that we lost a game so they are critical but are so ignorant about the game they have no clue about any strategy at all. I love football during football season. I love basketball equally as well. For me personally I love watching football on TV but GOING to basketball more. You get the same Clemson experience at basketball games as football ( inside 9000 vs outside 80000). But of course they have no clue because they never go to basketball. At basketball you can park anywhere, EAT in any restaurant and pay REGULAR price at a hotel. Football is great but too much hassle !!. If you agree to pay $ 700 a night for a room for fb you desperately need a Dave Ramsey course no matter how much money you have.

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For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:01 AM
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causes us to put a defensive posture when it comes to bragging on the team. That likely will never change.

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Re: For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:05 AM
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I remember in 1974 we went 7-4 and were so happy that we won all our home games that we put out a special soft drink bottle LOL !

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Re: For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:32 AM
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very true. We beat Ga and Ga Tech. Didnt get a bowl because there were so few back then.It was the first winning season in. a few years.

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Re: For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program

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Feb 28, 2025, 8:40 AM
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Yup! As it turns out, 74 was an aberration which was followed by 2 of the worst teams in Clemson history, which led to the hiring of Charlie Pell and the big turnaround.

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Re: For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program

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Mar 1, 2025, 8:52 AM
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The first year I attended a Clemson football game was 1974 vs NC State... and I'm still going strong...
Go Tigers!

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Plus, they didnt think Clemson fans would travel***

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Mar 2, 2025, 10:46 AM [ in reply to Re: For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program ]
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I still have one***

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:45 PM [ in reply to Re: For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program ]
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Re: I still have one***

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:03 PM
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WoW, that was a lucky find!!

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Well

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Mar 1, 2025, 1:32 AM
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😉 Thanks to you!!

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I mean EVENTUALLY we have to acctually WIN something for that to change...

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Feb 28, 2025, 7:29 AM [ in reply to For Clemson fans, the history of our basketball program ]
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hopefully after 16 years Brownell is going to do that

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Re: I mean EVENTUALLY we have to acctually WIN something for that to change...

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Feb 28, 2025, 7:35 AM
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STERLING® said:

hopefully after 16 years Brownell is going to do that




He is the winningest coach in CU basketball history, won at the dean dome (twice), Sweet 16, Elite 8, NIT Semifinals and a tic under a 60% winning percentage. Graduates his players and has always represented our university with class.

Wondering why anyone can't be happy about our coach/program. Maybe it's a choice.

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Re: I mean EVENTUALLY we have to acctually WIN something for that to change...

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Feb 28, 2025, 8:27 AM
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You forgot to add Lunatic Fringe.

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You also forgot to add

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Feb 28, 2025, 8:54 AM
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Toxic T Netters

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Re: You also forgot to add

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:38 AM
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#ironicpost

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We just had our best season in program history last year.

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Feb 28, 2025, 1:09 PM [ in reply to I mean EVENTUALLY we have to acctually WIN something for that to change... ]
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We are having an outstanding season again this year.

Brownell has won a lot here, more than any other coach in program history.

To say that he hasn't won anything is ridiculous.

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Re: We just had our best season in program history last year.

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Feb 28, 2025, 5:38 PM
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Makes sense he has won the most…he’s been here the longest. What a senile lame argument.

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Re: We just had our best season in program history last year.

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:11 PM
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lthom022® said:

Makes sense he has won the most…he’s been here the longest. What a senile lame argument.

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He chose to be here unlike Barnes and OP who accomplished very little and bolted at the first opportunity.

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He would be the first***

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Feb 28, 2025, 1:14 PM [ in reply to I mean EVENTUALLY we have to acctually WIN something for that to change... ]
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Re: Judge Kellar Attacks

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Feb 28, 2025, 7:48 AM
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Scr$w basketball

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Like Judge Keller or not, you still pull for Clemson if you don't like the sport


Mar 2, 2025, 10:42 AM
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or Judge Keller.

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Re: Judge Kellar Attacks

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:04 AM
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Basketball or Clemson fan support is not the issue with JK
JK has some good points about the BBall team but ruins the message by taking a passive aggressive commentary against football and Dabo.
One can not make themselves look better by putting others down. And that in a nutshell is the issue with too many JK posts.
Let Bball be bball and let football be football.
JK tries to promote some fictitious zero sum game that we as fans have to choose a side in how he references his points
Its irritating

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The only side I want people to choose is the Clemson side.

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:22 AM
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To me, that means wanting us to have success in all of our endeavors, academically and athletically. It means giving our sports programs what they need, taking care of the coaches/staff who are loyal to Clemson, and holding them accountable with regard to their own respective advantages and disadvantages.

It bothers some people that I have a different standard for football than I do for basketball. That isn’t because I hate football or have some problem with Dabo. It’s because I think we have the potential to be a great program and have fallen short of it.

I have the same goals for basketball, but also realize that Clemson basketball hasn’t had the success football has historically. That doesn’t mean that I am okay with mediocrity, or don’t have high goals for the program, but it does mean that I have a healthy perspective and realize that getting to that pinnacle in basketball is a process (one which I think we are making great progress toward).

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Re: The only side I want people to choose is the Clemson side.

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:38 AM
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WE do have the potential to be a great football program. The problem is you don't give credit that Dabo helped us realize that greatness. Saying the greatest coach in Clemson football history has fallen short is the problem. Clemson has the odds stacked against them being in the ACC and also as a smaller University but somehow Dabo has been able to take the program to heights never seen before. He is not above criticism and will continue to be evaluated but considering his past and present success in a sport that is changing at break neck speed he deserves a ton of credit.

I don't know how long you have been a Clemson fan but you either did not live through the early 70's, 90's and 2000's or you have a very short memory or maybe you popped a champagne cork when Danny got fired. I lean towards the later.

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I have readily acknowledged Dabo's pivotal role in our football success.

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:54 AM
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He is the main reason why we became elite, won numerous ACC championships, made multiple playoff appearances, and won two national championships. Without his vision and leadership, that wouldn't have happened.

He did not do it alone, however, and that is the part that gets glossed over a lot. He has had fantastic support from the administration, university, and fan base. Without that, he would not have gotten us where he did. I know that doesn't coincide with the hero worship some of you have for him, with the idea that he did it all by himself. I know it makes for a great rags to riches story, little 'ol Clemson, backs against the wall, with no way out, saved by Dabo who bootstrapped it to make our program great. But that simply isn't accurate.

With that said, Dabo absolutely deserves a ton of credit. And based on what he has shown he is able to accomplish, and the high level support he has from Clemson, there is also an expectation that we are consistently one of the best football programs in the country. We have fallen well short of that the last four years. I find it incredibly frustrating since I feel that our decline was preventable, and Dabo's errors in judgment are the main reasons why that happened.

Thankfully, he seems to have recognized some of his errors regarding coaching hires, NIL, and the transfer portal. I am encouraged by the changes he has made recently, and hope that they will get us back where we belong - as one of the finest football programs in the country.

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No responses to this. I shouldnt be surprised.***

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Re: The only side I want people to choose is the Clemson side.

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:52 AM [ in reply to The only side I want people to choose is the Clemson side. ]
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I do my best to be a “Clemson” fan which means I follow, pull for all of our athletic teams. That being said I have been more of a football fan but I pull for the basketball team and years ago when I lived closer I went to several of the games. Now I try to watch as many of the basketball games as I can on tv or on-line.

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I think it's fine to have a preference, and for most fans that is football.

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:56 AM
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There is nothing wrong with that. I'm glad that you have gotten into basketball more recently and enjoy it. It really is a great time to be a Clemson basketball fan.

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Re: The only side I want people to choose is the Clemson side.

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:03 PM [ in reply to The only side I want people to choose is the Clemson side. ]
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You try to push people apart and that's pretty obvious. Say what you want to but it is what it is. I don't mind you tho. I like the drama ya bring. I do believe you want the best for our basketball and football program tho

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You went past your 5 word mandate JK

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Mar 2, 2025, 1:04 AM [ in reply to The only side I want people to choose is the Clemson side. ]
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Nm

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Re: Judge Kellar Attacks

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:45 AM [ in reply to Re: Judge Kellar Attacks ]
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Its not the vocal support for Brad that causes the ire of most of this board. Its the trolling and abject disdain for those on TNet he views as enemies. He uses his obvious dislike for Dabo, propensity for passive aggressive drive-by style attacks and outright manufactured lies about FB as his proxy to "even the score" (aka zero sum game). How he hasn't been perm-banned for breaking site rules included racists posts is beyond me. Its a vicious cycle that only he cank break, if he has the desire to do so. Its my belief he has no such desire, he enjoys playing the villain role and has a very small cadre of misguided fans supporting his nonsense.

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The vicious cycle can be broken if you and a few others will stop

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Feb 28, 2025, 10:22 AM
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portraying me as the enemy, as someone who hates Dabo, or accusing me of harboring some jealousy or resentment for our football program.

I don't view anyone here as an enemy, but there are some misguided fans who take things too personally and look for reasons to be offended.

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Re: The vicious cycle can be broken if you and a few others will stop

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Feb 28, 2025, 11:07 AM
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Yes, its everyone else's fault for what you post including threads clearly intended only to incite, divide and troll Tnet. You're providing the ammo, if you can't see that then we have reached an ad lapidem fallacy stage.

Those pointing out your trolling, hypocrisy, and outright lies is not perpetuating the issue as much as you want to blame shift...it's highlighting it.

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This is just nonsense. No one is this non-self-aware.

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Feb 28, 2025, 11:12 AM [ in reply to The vicious cycle can be broken if you and a few others will stop ]
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The problem didn't start by you being "portrayed" as the enemy or as someone who hates Dabo. You made that choice. You hated the fact that Dabo had what you thought was unwarranted unconditional support and that a coach that you thought was doing a great job for our basketball team was dismissed and demeaned. And your response was to take jabs at Clemson football, Dabo, and football-focused Clemson fans whenever you could. Deny that all you want...it's like denying that the sky is blue. It's not even worth getting into it with you.

If you don't want to be vilified by people on here, YOU must change your approach to the board. I highly doubt you will, and that's fine with me, but stop pointing the finger at everyone else. You could have just supported BB without jabbing at football. No one attacks T_I_P for his updates on Men's Tennis because it doesn't come wrapped in indignation that people aren't paying enough to the sport he likes.

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What you consider jabs at football I view as honest critiques.

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Feb 28, 2025, 1:07 PM
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For example:

-Dabo essentially ignoring the transfer portal for several years.
-Dabo speaking out against the transfer portal in a negative way.
-Dabo refusing to fully embrace NIL and use it in recruiting.
-Dabo speaking out against NIL in a negative way.
-Dabo hiring unqualified coaches for both position coaches and coordinators.

These decisions hurt our program significantly.

Dabo was given plenty of leash to make these decisions. I think most people here might have disagreed with them, but supported him since he has been so successful here and earned the right to run the program how he thought best. However, when he continued making these decisions and these comments, when things were clearly trending the wrong way with our program, it becomes frustrating.

Dabo is not immune to criticism, no matter how much that criticism bothers some of you.

Stop the hero worship if it's clouding your judgment. We all love Dabo, but it's possible to like and respect him while also being able to take inventory of the job he is doing and speak candidly about it. Resorting to personal attacks and continuing to reference how successful Dabo has been are simply ways of diverting from the reality that our football program has slipped.

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As I said. No one is this non-self-aware. This is intentional obtuseness.***

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This is the post of the decade! Well said!

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Mar 1, 2025, 3:25 AM [ in reply to This is just nonsense. No one is this non-self-aware. ]
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Couldn’t agree more.

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THISJKs gaslighting and jabs at

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:25 PM [ in reply to Re: Judge Kellar Attacks ]
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Dabo are a sickness

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Re: THISJKs gaslighting and jabs at

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:15 PM
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Dabo are a sickness



Maybe but you seem ok with it when the LF ones the same thing. Maybe JK is not the only problem?

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Re: Judge Kellar Attacks

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Judge Kellar Attacks ]
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TigerBean said:

Basketball or Clemson fan support is not the issue with JK
JK has some good points about the BBall team but ruins the message by taking a passive aggressive commentary against football and Dabo.
One can not make themselves look better by putting others down. And that in a nutshell is the issue with too many JK posts.
Let Bball be bball and let football be football.
JK tries to promote some fictitious zero sum game that we as fans have to choose a side in how he references his points
Its irritating




Let's say someone is irritates you. Why would you click on a thread with the name of the person who irritates you in the subject line and then comment? If someone really finds JK irritating, why not scroll past meaning addition by subtraction? Like many of the old guard t-netters, JK makes you question your beliefs (as it pertains to sports) which makes them uncomfortable (the discomfort causes the irritation). Maybe worst of all, like passing a car wreck, they don't want to look but can't force themselves to look away.

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You should tell that to the Bresee family.***

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:42 PM
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Re: You should tell that to the Bresee family.***

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:17 PM
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Seems like a personal attack from your high horse which is not allowed!

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I dont think you know the definition of personal attack

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Feb 28, 2025, 6:26 PM
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And if by “high horse” you mean I frown upon mocking Clemson and our fans for supporting a 15 year old with cancer, then giddy up.





And you are a punk too if you think this acceptable.




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Feb 28, 2025, 6:39 PM
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I did not see that in this thread so just another attack

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Thats on you

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Feb 28, 2025, 7:19 PM
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It’s there. And posting his unedited response is not an attack, it’s a cut and paste. You are ignorant. That’s just an observation. Hopefully you don’t find yourself in the Bresse’s shoes one day.


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It’s there. And posting his unedited response is not an attack, it’s a cut and paste. You are ignorant. That’s just an observation. Hopefully you don’t find yourself in the Bresse’s shoes one day.


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Mr Internet bully and self appointed keeper of the order, I don’t bother to keep screen shots from two years ago. If you don’t like something posted, say so in the thread or report it. Otherwise get a life. An anonymous person holding a grudge against another anonymous person for years after the fact is both sad and creepy. Life is full of sad, evil and distasteful bits but only the lowest hang on to those as if they never miss-stepped. The rest of us work on improvement and move on knowing they can’t change others so their energy would be better directed inward

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Deflection?

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:20 PM
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I knew that was coming. This is turning into a grind out, last word, type conversation.

Bottom line is you said “Like many of the old guard t-netters, JK makes you question your beliefs (as it pertains to sports) which makes them uncomfortable (the discomfort causes the irritation).”

I disagree. I think the issue is many have with him is different, and gave an example. Now the discussion is about disparaging my good memory, instead of sticking to the topic. I don’t blame you for wanting to distance yourself from the Grey Out posts though, might mean you actually have some compassion in you somewhere.

Have a good one.

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Feb 28, 2025, 9:28 PM
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I knew that was coming. This is turning into a grind out, last word, type conversation.

Bottom line is you said “Like many of the old guard t-netters, JK makes you question your beliefs (as it pertains to sports) which makes them uncomfortable (the discomfort causes the irritation).”

I disagree. I think the issue is many have with him is different, and gave an example. Now the discussion is about disparaging my good memory, instead of sticking to the topic. I don’t blame you for wanting to distance yourself from the Grey Out posts though, might mean you actually have some compassion in you somewhere.

Have a good one.



It’s free to think anything you want but presenting your conclusions as fact because it fits your narrative is something different. Judging the level of compassion of someone you know nothing about because they don’t acknowledge some obscure post from two years ago is narcissistic.

Hope you have a good one as well!

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Re: Deflection?

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Feb 28, 2025, 10:07 PM
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It certainly makes you an enormous hypocrite no matter how empathetic you think you are. You are continuously jumping into debates and accusing one side of doing exactly what the other side is doing. And when called on it you ignore it altogether or simply deny it despite a plain sight evidence. The Bresee stuff isn’t even the most egregious of JK’s posts. There is no defensible position to support him other than pure ignorance of what he represents and you cannot claim that defense.

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Where would your loser buddy's continual references to my wife and her

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Feb 28, 2025, 8:01 PM [ in reply to I dont think you know the definition of personal attack ]
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appearance rate? I would certainly categorize that as punk behavior and you don't seem to have a problem accepting that, you never miss an opportunity to thumb them up...from you high horse

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lol

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Feb 28, 2025, 8:26 PM
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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


lol, you told that coot!

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Mar 1, 2025, 1:38 AM [ in reply to Where would your loser buddy's continual references to my wife and her ]
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😆

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Re: Judge Kellar Attacks

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Feb 28, 2025, 10:01 PM [ in reply to Re: Judge Kellar Attacks ]
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He does not such thing. You’re projecting.

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Re: Judge Kellar Attacks

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Feb 28, 2025, 10:06 AM
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I only TD when I feel it’s warranted. I expect nothing less on my poasts.

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The only thing I dont understand is

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Feb 28, 2025, 11:36 AM
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is how you could defend someone who mocks an act of kindness by the Clemson family for one of our own. This was a 15 year old who was fighting a losing battle against brain cancer, and in a show of support, and to help bring awareness, Clemson family had a “Grey Out”. Putting on a grey shirt was something everyone could do, regardless of their financial situation, to show they cared. And the publicity could help increase donations for research to help others in the future. Instead of supporting this, or saying nothing at all, he chose to mock it.

Sorry you are confused about the lack of understanding.








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Re: The only thing I dont understand is

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Re: The only thing I dont understand is

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:51 PM
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Seems like the arguments started way back when basketball was finally getting the needed investment. At that time football was really getting the investment with the new facilities and staff expansion. Thus, there was a legitimate complaint about Brownell lacking what was needed to succeed. At some point you have to recognize both programs are getting what’s available from the AD and each program needed to figure out the portal and NIL. Clearly Brownell embraced that landscape early and Dabo didn’t. It’s fair game to criticize the drop off that football has experienced because of the lack of roster depth. Dabo’s HS talent evals and internal coaching hires are where things really got this debate going in an unhealthy direction (in my opinion).

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:00 PM
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The attacks on JK are brought on by himself. He knows that. It's okay. He tries to get people's blood boiling.

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:07 PM
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Have mercy!

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I used to feel sorry for him when he just wanted everyone to care more about

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Feb 28, 2025, 12:26 PM
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basketball. But that was before he devolved into an incessant troll.

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Clemson has a ton of basketball fans.


Feb 28, 2025, 12:34 PM
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The majority of us saw a coach out of his league for a decade plus and shared frustrations around his game flow coaching and lack of ability to close out the tight ones. We languished at a notch above mediocre, if you consider 1 game over .500 even that. That's been Brad's most consistent finish.

JK and the minion minds saw fit to throw our players under the bus instead of acknowledging that we were languishing, with occasional positive spikes timed with how hot Brad's seat was and contractual opening windows. They did this by whining about resources and financial support - that Brad could only attract losers to play for him because we weren't investing enough to get better players. Most fans saw talent, and we saw them perform well for nice stretches, only to wither against inferior talent down the stretch too often, either in-game or in-season. It was a maddening pattern. The poster you're trying to defend, and your own words above, see more fit to trash the Clemson fan for being too stupid to know awesome basketball when they see it.

From a resource standpoint, we're simply keeping up today as we always have. Everyone is spending more on athletics and we are doing the same. Proportionately we're pretty much in the same spot today as we were 15 years ago. Fortunately, the rules have changed to allow Brad to overcome the very high HS recruit turnover we experience, and subsequent less internal development, with instant availability transfers. He's always been heavy in the transfer area as that's the only way he could maintain enough players on the roster. Now they don't have to wait a year to play - yay for us.

Clemson basketball fans are ecstatic today. You know why? Because we know good basketball when we see it, and this is good basketball.

Go Tigers!

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Feb 28, 2025, 5:58 PM
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He doesn’t care for your empathy

He tries to tarnish Dabo Swinney’s reputation every day.

Dabo’s The greatest thing that’s ever happened to Clemson sports at least, maybe the University.

So, don’t forget how little he cares

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Dabo is forging his own reputation without anyones help.

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Feb 28, 2025, 7:02 PM
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That is true for our elite run from 2015-2020 as well as our decline from 2021-2024.

It is up to Dabo to add to his reputation in a positive way moving forward. He has everything he needs to do so. Hopefully it starts in 2025.

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Feb 28, 2025, 10:17 PM
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Our so called decline is way better then the seasons before we got Dabo. U don't expect the basketball team to win every game so stop expecting the football team to. Winning 10 games and the acc championship is a great year. We had 2 of the greats college qbs ever that took us to national championships. That's not going to alway happen no matter what Dabo does.

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Mar 1, 2025, 1:08 AM [ in reply to Dabo is forging his own reputation without anyones help. ]
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That’s weird because didn’t you stick with Brownell in that stretch between 2011-2016 when when we were basically a .500 team?

I hope you’re smart enough to understand my logic here


I’m assuming you defended Brad during all of those times.


My logic is, wouldn’t it make sense to stick with a national championship coach going through “a decline” more than it would make sense to defend a coach who had no previous success to show us anything?

Not a decline obviously as well.

We’re still relevant and playing for championships. However you want to say it happened, this is how football has always happened. Yeah Clemson got some luck, but that’s always happened.





Point being, why not defend one coach during the tough times like you did for the other?



Im kind of picking you apart on here. Exposing you.

You’re going to have to explain this one

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Mar 1, 2025, 1:49 AM
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"I hope you’re smart enough to understand my logic here."

Irony keeps some of us going

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Mar 1, 2025, 6:04 AM
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Yeah you’re an actual dumba** we already know

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I am sticking with Dabo.

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Mar 2, 2025, 7:55 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo is forging his own reputation without anyones help. ]
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You have no basis to suggest that I am not.

Unlike the many people here who have posted hundreds if not thousands of times calling for Brad to be fired or hoping he chooses to leave, I have been consistent in saying that I want Dabo as our coach. I have not called for his firing nor do I want him to leave.

I want Dabo to remain our head coach for a long time. I’ve said it repeatedly. I just want him to do a better job than he has the last 4-5 years. That isn’t a lot to ask for what he is paid and the many resources and advantages he has.

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Feb 28, 2025, 7:12 PM
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So JK is having Brad's baby . . does that mean you're having JK's baby? Does that make Brad the grandfather of your baby? cousin? Sibling? I'm confused.

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Mar 1, 2025, 3:29 AM
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Individual football players.
About Bryon B sister.
About women’s softball
And not just once, repeated attacks and passive aggressive jabs at football in general, but mostly at Dabo.

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I'll bite on your stance that the football crowd doesn't respect bball crowd


Mar 2, 2025, 1:00 AM
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Being a lifelong multigenerational alumnis with alumni products that believe Clemson football is the only football that can be watched; Still every Tuesday, Thursday, sat afternoon, etc Clemson basketball game played that the radio was on and the football people that gathered listened to that radio and, thru play by play and color commentators, saw every pass, every foul, every heated conversation between coach and ref and on and it was felt and we cheered the same as football.
Watching on TV became even more unnerving. Seeing is believing so if you ever saw referees treat a team past the point of bad calls and with disrespect then you were watching a Clemson ball game.

Jk moniker had a chubby for bb and that is fine but he started trash talking the football program. Specifically coaching and what he was saying was nonsense. That's were I suspect some moved him from the troll world to almost the scok world and some have.

Reexamine that and look back at him post and replys.

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Mar 2, 2025, 9:54 AM
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Simp harder

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he's OK, its his stupid avatar causing the problem;

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Mar 2, 2025, 11:47 AM
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nobody will respect one without a mustache. That is why I can say whatever I want with no repercussions.

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