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Legend [19610]
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Re: Think this will unify anybody?
Sep 1, 2020, 11:33 AM
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Sad. Its all a make believe problem.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Not gonna watch
Sep 1, 2020, 11:36 AM
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All-In [42197]
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So you're going to boycott sports...
Sep 1, 2020, 12:23 PM
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Because you don't like a message someone sends in an end zone or with a mask?
That's a bit snowflaky.
I can't wait for football to start. Full send.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: So you're going to boycott sports...
Sep 1, 2020, 12:27 PM
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All-In [42197]
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Nah. It's snowflaky.
Sep 1, 2020, 12:31 PM
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Especially if anti-racism messages upset you enough to not watch.
T3: "All that pink they wear in October? Sure, I'm good with that. Ah, man, I don't like the new roughing the passer rules but okay I'll watch. Patriots are going to win again? Ah, I guess I'll watch.
What?! The NFL is speaking out against racism?! #### that! I'm out!"
I don't care if they paint images of Trump's stubby little ##### in the end zones; I'm still watching. Because it's football, by Jesus, and we've been waiting for ever during this pandemic.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Nah. It's snowflaky.
Sep 1, 2020, 12:39 PM
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All-In [43774]
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Snowflake, cancel culture, triggered.
Sep 1, 2020, 12:49 PM
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All apply here.
Actually I'm surprised you didn't boycott life and stick to it back when they gave women the right to vote.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Was anybody talking to you?
Sep 1, 2020, 1:04 PM
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All-In [43774]
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They were not. But you are now.
Sep 1, 2020, 1:18 PM
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And I find watching the SS Snowflake on rough seas to be entertaining. Keep up the good work, just make sure not to kick your dog along the way.
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Re: Nah. It's snowflaky.
Sep 1, 2020, 2:19 PM
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Yeah, me too, especially since those organizations and how they spend the money are questionable.
But dude, no one is "indoctrinating" you when the NFL points out a racism is bad. How could that be a problem?
And Breonna Taylor? Really? You're telling me people demanding justice for her upsets you?
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Nah. It's snowflaky.
Sep 1, 2020, 2:23 PM
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Standout [340]
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AND that's the point, isn't it T3?
Sep 1, 2020, 4:31 PM
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All the messaging is overkill, and the problem, as Carlsbad says, "is made up".
CataWTF is wrong: the messaging isn't about Racism.
It's about Racial leveraging - accruing more power to Blacks. Two different things that require two different responses.
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Well, Clemson Mountaineers...
Sep 1, 2020, 9:58 PM
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Why would you have a problem with blacks having more power?
Why do you have a problem with messages that are anti-racism?
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Re: Nah. It's snowflaky.
Sep 1, 2020, 9:58 PM
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And that bothers you enough to boycott the sport?
Seems snowflaky.
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Standout [347]
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Haha such a snowflake. Changed the channel because of a
Sep 1, 2020, 4:25 PM
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mask. Sounds like you need a safe space
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Re: Haha such a snowflake. Changed the channel because of a
Sep 1, 2020, 4:36 PM
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Standout [347]
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Not offended, had no bearing on me, I’m just laughing at you.***
Sep 1, 2020, 6:56 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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You know what’s a snowflake?
Sep 1, 2020, 10:07 PM
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Re: You knew what’s a snowflake?
Sep 1, 2020, 10:11 PM
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Are you triggered? You seem a little triggered.
Here, try this. Oh, hey, I'm watching some sports ball. Hey, some athlete has a mask or a shirt on. I'm not a huge fan of that mask or shirt. Rather than pitch a tantrum like a baby, I'll be a grown ### man and not worry about it and keep watching some sports ball.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: You knew what’s a snowflake?
Sep 1, 2020, 10:34 PM
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Shoot...
Sep 2, 2020, 8:29 AM
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No way in hell do I think everyone agrees with me. I mean, the smart ones tend to .
I like how you equate someone asking for justice for Taylor or to end racism as "whiny BS from the left". Nice. You really have a real problem with anti racist messages, don't you? Why is that?
Changing the channel during a sporting event because what a player is wearing pisses you off politically is whiny, snowflakish, and a grown man pitching a tantrum. There's no argument with it. It's similar to whining to admins about someone TDing you then going on your own TD rampage because you think it's justified when you do it. Or just complaining to mods so much they think you're a kid.
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Why do you read bullsh t like that? Do you
Sep 1, 2020, 11:36 AM
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think the Western Journal is a trustworthy news source?
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Legend [19610]
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Is that article untrue? Should I listen to CNN or read the
Sep 1, 2020, 12:20 PM
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NYT or Washington Post? That is pure propaganda that pretends to have balance.
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All-TigerNet [11207]
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Make up your own mind, listen to people, their words.
Sep 1, 2020, 2:39 PM
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Propaganda? Like Western Journal and Infowars? C'mon, Man!
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Heisman Winner [137978]
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"NFL end zones will be inscribed this season with two
Sep 1, 2020, 11:38 AM
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slogans: “It Takes All Of Us” on one end line, “End Racism” on the other."
I can see how such messages would anger you and cause you to boycott the NFL.
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All-TigerNet [11640]
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Keep reading...
Sep 1, 2020, 11:58 AM
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Black national anthem, BLM logos, etc. will turn people off.
Look at the NBA ratings. In the trash.
If the NFL stopped those end zones, not sure anyone would care. If they kept it at equity, end racism, justice, etc. I don't think anyone would object. When you start to tie it in with BLM you will lose people.
If you read BLM demands, they essentially want segregation for black people and black culture. Their demands are completely unobtainable.
Charles Barkley said it at the beginning about the NBA and nailed it. I think the same will happen to the NFL, though not as much.
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Oculus Spirit [78892]
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NFL is way too popular
Sep 1, 2020, 12:05 PM
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once the game starts, most people will not care
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Rock Defender [54]
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Doubt it
Sep 1, 2020, 12:09 PM
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Post Kaepernick people were still getting record salaries
Sep 1, 2020, 12:23 PM
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year over year. That doesn't sound like an industry on the decline.
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Re: Post Kaepernick people were still getting record salaries
Sep 1, 2020, 12:37 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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this may be what we are looking for...
Sep 1, 2020, 12:55 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/31/nfl-television-viewership-increases-5percent-for-2019-season.html
"The rebound in viewership certainly helps the league as it is hoping to renegotiate media deals with TV partners CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN and DirecTV. Dating back to the 2016 season, the league suffered a fall in ratings and even experienced a 9.7% drop in viewership for the 2017 season.
The controversy surrounding players kneeling during the national anthem, which led to political criticism mostly from President Donald Trump, was partly to blame for the ratings decline. But one network executive added that the lack of stars hurt ratings, too."
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But Trump good for economy
Sep 1, 2020, 1:03 PM
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folks are very quick to turn heads the other way when he, alone in his actions, tries to do destructive things to American corporations. NFL, Goodyear, AT&T, Macy's....the list goes on.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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that is the standard disclaimer...
Sep 1, 2020, 2:19 PM
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so that it is clear to the reader that Trump caused this, not that the people who watch football could figure out on their that they were unhappy with protesting the flag.
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I don't disagree. And I'm not blaming DJT for folks
Sep 1, 2020, 3:42 PM
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getting upset or not or abstaining from shopping at certain places or refusing to watch certain things.
What I will say is that for the POTUS to use his platform to attempt to degrade actual US corporations powered by actual US citizens in effort to further his own personal political agenda is abhorrent. I also find it in direct conflict with the concept of improving our economy.
Could some people figure out they are offended or whatever on their own? Absolutely. We can both agree though that many others, regardless of political party, will blindly follow the elected leader agenda assuming they are aligned from a party standpoint.
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Legend [19610]
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Gambling and fantasy football are popular. That is what
Sep 1, 2020, 12:21 PM
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keeps many people watching that otherwise would not.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I can guarantee you fantasy football...
Sep 1, 2020, 12:42 PM
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is the only thing that has kept me halfway interested over the past 10 years. It isn't so much the politics for me though. Free agency has killed all the major sports. Teams don't stay together like they did when I was a kid. And it might have something to do with Jameis Winston being the QB of my favorite team.
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It's amazing how many white people...
Sep 1, 2020, 12:27 PM
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Flip out when you simply make statements like that.
NFL: "Hey, racism sucks, so we're going to speak out about it. You know, especially since it's mostly black athletes in our league and entertaining you."
Triggered whites: "OMG, I'm gonna boycott! I'm not gonna watch football!!!!!!!!! (secretly I'm going to watch but I will ##### about it so my other triggered white friends think I'm not)."
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It's like an Onion article.
Sep 1, 2020, 12:36 PM
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Oh, wait. It IS an Onion article.
https://sports.theonion.com/man-just-wants-to-watch-basketball-in-peace-without-bei-1844870156Man Just Wants To Watch Basketball In Peace Without Being Forced To Recognize Players’ Humanity In Any Way CULVER CITY, CA—Preferring to just watch playoff basketball in peace, Lakers fan Derek Wainwright expressed frustration Thursday that he was being forced to recognize basketball players’ humanity in any way. “I wish they’d stop bringing basic human dignity into sports, so I can enjoy the #### game,” said Wainwright, adding that NBA players get paid top dollar to repress their emotions. “I want to cheer for LeBron, but I don’t need him shoving his concerns over police brutality in my face. Thinking about their personal lives completely ruins the whole experience for me. Plus, I’m already rooting for Black players so this message that they’re people with concerns about inequality doesn’t even apply to me.” At press time, Wainwright criticized “bandwagon fans” for only supporting LeBron James when he’s on the brink of winning civil rights.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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it's not racism...
Sep 1, 2020, 12:36 PM
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it's the same reason ESPN has been losing viewers (even before the virus cancelled sports).
Think about the Lunge view of P & R. It's the same thing, people want to watch sports without politics.
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Nope.
Sep 1, 2020, 1:00 PM
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Professional athletes, the majority whom are minorities (at least in the NFL), standing up for a cause to end racism being viewed as political is only viewed as political by those that are made uncomfortable by the message.
Net, it's not "politics", it's only couched as that by those unwilling to tell the truth around exactly why it makes them uncomfortable.
Question begs: Why does it make them uncomfortable?
I think in most, certainly not all, cases we know the answer to that.
List of NFL initiatives that are fully supported by a vast majority of people: Play 360 Salute to Service Support for MADD Breast cancer awareness Prostate cancer awareness
List of NFL initiatives not fully supported by many right in this thread: End racism
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Orange Blooded [4365]
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Don Juan
Sep 1, 2020, 2:23 PM
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BINGO !!
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I guess we'll see how it works out for the NFL...
Sep 1, 2020, 2:41 PM
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I know that the first reaction is to accuse everybody of being racist.
It certainly isn't reasonable to think that people can actual be empathetic for a cause and want to have a break from it at a football game after months of nonstop protests. I want us to make some progress on our problems, but the point has been made. We can't get together and work this out while cities continue to be burned. Either we can do something productive or keep being destructive.
I believe there are people who work hard all week and spend all that money going to a game to relax want to get away from the stress of life. I might be wrong, but I think it won't play well.
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I mean, it's a message painted in an end zone
Sep 1, 2020, 3:08 PM
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bringing visibility to ending racism. Has been done for years in Europe at professional soccer matches.
Other visible advertisements for products and services are visible everywhere at all times during sports. I can't really fathom why an advertisement for ending racism would be an issue.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I don't think the endzones will be a big deal...
Sep 1, 2020, 3:27 PM
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And I actually like the wording the NFL has chosen.
What I think will be a problem is if they continually keep pumping stuff like the so-called "black" national anthem.
I'm actually sad that the riots are continuing, because, as I've said a number of times the message of inequity and injustice has gotten traction in areas it had not in the past. I just think we're getting close to protest fatigue in this country. It is becoming counter productive. Just my opinion.
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No disagreement here.
Sep 1, 2020, 3:44 PM
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And I don't even know what a "black" national anthem is, but I can't really see that being an issue either. Doubt it is on tv hardly at all, and it's not looking like many folks are going to be able to even attend games.
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Oculus Spirit [93674]
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In a manner, yes.
Sep 1, 2020, 12:49 PM
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It will make the bubble smaller so those inside that bubble will literally come together.
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Re: Think this will unify anybody?
Sep 1, 2020, 2:22 PM
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Why would anyone get upset about seeing slogans about better living up to the American standards of equality and fairness ??
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I have a Dream.....
Sep 1, 2020, 3:58 PM
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With a second left LeBron soars to catch a lob from Lillard, flushing it through for the final points in a runaway Gold Medal game win over who cares.
Later that evening Team USA gathers at center court to receive its medals. As a jazz intro begins, the familiar red, black and green starts to rise to the rafters and Ev'ry Voice begins to sing. The players hold black gloved fists to the sky and bow their heads in silence. All are standing.
Afterwards the chants of "BLM... BLM.... BLM.." reverberate into the night.
Weeks later, overnights are released and Team USA has been beaten by a rerun of Sanford & Son in 65 of 68 major US markets. When asked why, one street local quips, "Well, at least Fred was funny."
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Re: Think this will unify anybody?
Sep 1, 2020, 5:09 PM
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What a surprise, the westernjournal website is, of course, anonymous.
All of those right-wing political-#### sites are. My guess is it's Bulgarian.
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pathetic and sickening
Sep 1, 2020, 9:01 PM
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I literally hope anyone who thinks this chit is worthwhile will naturally select themselves off the planet.
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So, hold on.
Sep 1, 2020, 10:07 PM
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You're really upset that the NFL is putting out messages that call for ending racism?
How is that pathetic and sickening and worthy of suicide, as you insinuate?
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