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Legend [19703]
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My poll website got a facelift
Oct 25, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Also added conference rankings. Plan on making more additions. Suggestions are welcome.
http://www.gainespoll.com
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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I think it should be orange instead of green. hth***
Oct 25, 2013, 12:37 PM
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Legend [19703]
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Re: I think it should be orange instead of green. hth***
Oct 25, 2013, 12:42 PM
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Sorry got to keep it unafiliated. If dsp would be willing to write a blog for me I'd make it baptist pride colors just for him.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Please stand by as I pour some on the floor
Oct 25, 2013, 12:47 PM
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for our fallen homey
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Legend [19703]
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Re: Please stand by as I pour some on the floor
Oct 25, 2013, 12:52 PM
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I must not have been around for this one. What's the deal with fallen homie?
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Oculus Spirit [97176]
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He's been exiled to an island devoid of Clemson and all
Oct 25, 2013, 1:19 PM
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things orange.
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Legend [19703]
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Re: He's been exiled to an island devoid of Clemson and all
Oct 25, 2013, 1:33 PM
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So he's a coot as we suspected all along?
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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If deadsolidperfect is not a coot, then I would expect him
Oct 25, 2013, 1:34 PM
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to directly refute this post by the close of business today. If he does not, then he shall be deemed a coot.
Waiting...
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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...Still waiting***
Oct 25, 2013, 5:14 PM
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Legend [19703]
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Re: ...Still waiting***
Oct 25, 2013, 6:25 PM
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Its official. He's a coot.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Yep, it's confirmed***
Oct 28, 2013, 12:30 PM
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CU Guru [1838]
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nice***
Oct 25, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Orange Blooded [2762]
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Not bad at all- I used to do sites (full gambit) from local
Oct 25, 2013, 12:45 PM
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hosting content creation, e-commerce, local mail server etc. Have you researched Joomla! CMS? Fairly easy total turnkey setup. My setups were apache/MySQL/PHP/zend and hmailserver on MS 32-bit os.
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Orange Blooded [2762]
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One Caveat: They offer a lampp/wampp all-in-one setup
Oct 25, 2013, 12:50 PM
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but out of the box it's wide open for hacking. Don't use that if you ever do decide to give it a try
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Legend [19703]
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Re: One Caveat: They offer a lampp/wampp all-in-one setup
Oct 25, 2013, 12:54 PM
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Gotta stick with asp.net. Don't know enough php. Not great with asp.net either. Found a free template and worked it basically.
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Orange Blooded [2762]
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ASP is a windows product yes? Solid product but as you
Oct 25, 2013, 1:05 PM
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venture forward, consider open-source as it has many more advantages- php is not a hard one to learn, even as a novice. Put some time in comparing the two paradigms before you invest a chitload of trial and errors in your web work. Some 60+ percent of all sites are on open-sourced I think. Specifically apache.
Oh and you'll get a lot of RTFM responses in the help forums so be warned
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Orange Blooded [2762]
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All-In [29052]
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"Non-Biased"?
Oct 25, 2013, 12:59 PM
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The bias in this ranking (and I don't think it qualifies as a poll because you aren't polling people), or any other computer ranking, comes in what data you choose to use and how you weight it.
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Legend [19703]
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Re: "Non-Biased"?
Oct 25, 2013, 1:04 PM
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I use wins and losses. What else you want me to use? I'm not using margin of victory or home field advantage. Both are flawed beyond imaginable.
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All-In [29052]
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I'm not saying it's not valid, not at all
Oct 25, 2013, 1:08 PM
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But I am saying you are showing your bias in choosing which data to include and not include. And that's fine. There is simply no way to rank a large number of teams that for the most part do not play each other directly, and in choosing what elements to include (in your case opponent win %) and not have that as a biased measure. It is biased in that you have decided that is the only pertinent information.
Like I said, it's perfectly valid, but biased by design,
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Legend [19703]
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Re: I'm not saying it's not valid, not at all
Oct 25, 2013, 1:17 PM
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It's un-biased in that it doesn't care what the tam name is or what conference they play for or what history they have. It doesn't care what bowl game they played in or where they where ranked a week ago.
It's not biased to any team or conference. Everyone is on the same playing field the better you vs the better teams you play vs the better team they play wins out.
The only bias in my poll I'd say is applying the weak opponent penalty for playing and/or losing to fcs using fcs winpct vs FBS.
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All-In [29052]
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I have no problem with it at all
Oct 25, 2013, 1:23 PM
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I'm just pointing out that it really isn't a poll and that it's biased by design (as all computer rankings are) in that you choose which data to include in the calculations.
I do think it would be interesting to see a chart of team movement from week to week to see how volatile the rankings are.
Didn't mean for my original post to come across as harsh. It's an interesting ranking for sure
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Legend [19703]
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Re: I have no problem with it at all
Oct 25, 2013, 1:32 PM
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You can view by week but no there isn't any crosschart for rank, team and week. Might add that.
The rankings will vary a ton in early weeks and solidify as the season progresses.
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Re: "Non-Biased"?
Oct 25, 2013, 2:32 PM
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I think he's just saying that you can't really call it a poll (since you're not polling anyone).
It is a very good ranking system based on raw statistics that are easily measured and indisputable... you can't argue the fact that Clemson is 6-1 any more than you can argue that Bama and FSU are still undefeated.
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Standout [340]
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Legend [19703]
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Re: Interesting - What types of data?
Oct 25, 2013, 3:15 PM
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Formula is on each page.
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All-In [27366]
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Looks good.***
Oct 25, 2013, 7:41 PM
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