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Mandatory is nuts, but we should be able to vote online or
Mar 19, 2015, 10:43 AM
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by mail.
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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Combine the two: E-MAIL***
Mar 19, 2015, 10:47 AM
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Legend [17753]
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Why not just tweet the vote. Trending = winner.***
Mar 19, 2015, 10:48 AM
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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Because I don't think Justin Beiber is qualified to run the
Mar 19, 2015, 10:49 AM
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#Soybeanwind***
Mar 19, 2015, 10:50 AM
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110%er [9666]
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I disagree with that actually. I guess I've always felt
Mar 19, 2015, 10:50 AM
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that someone should have to put forth a little bit of effort to vote - to prove that you are really concerned.
The general public considers themselves activists if they "like" a post on Facebook denouncing Obamacare (for example). I cringe at the thought of a ballot with a "Like" button beside each candidate. 
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Legend [17753]
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You've never had a vote day fall on a day when you couldn't
Mar 19, 2015, 10:55 AM
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take off work or were traveling or whatever? Geez, vote day for me is always hectic and rushed. Lots of people have to take off work unpaid to stand in line and vote.
Why does it have to be a PITA? I mean they try to make it easy when you are there, so why not just make it easy?
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All-In [40656]
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I personally go during lunch
Mar 19, 2015, 10:58 AM
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And if you are out of town, you can always absentee ballot if you know ahead of time.
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Legend [17753]
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Ever tried to do that? In SC you have to apply in writing
Mar 19, 2015, 10:59 AM
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like a month in advance. It's ridiculous.
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Orange Blooded [2190]
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My parents did it last year because my dad was sick
Mar 19, 2015, 11:02 AM
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Pretty simple actually. Fill out the application, mail it in, when approved your ballot is mailed to you and you fill it out and mail it back.
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Heisman Winner [135950]
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Except
Mar 19, 2015, 12:09 PM
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when the company in Florida yes Florida doesn't send the ballot until 2 days after the election like what happened to me for the primary last June
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110%er [8243]
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I absentee vote every year.
Mar 19, 2015, 11:20 AM
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Whether I am home or not on voting day. You have several weeks prior to voting day where you can drive down to the county elections office and vote when it is convenient for you. No paperwork to fill out. No PITA.
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Legend [17753]
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So you just have to drive downtown during the business day
Mar 19, 2015, 11:23 AM
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on the hours they are open?
Maybe not so much of a PITA for some.
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110%er [8243]
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I think they are open till 7.
Mar 19, 2015, 11:43 AM
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for 3 or 4 weeks, and you can't make it down there? That is being lazy, not busy.
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Legend [17753]
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Well I doubt they are open til 7, BUT still
Mar 19, 2015, 11:54 AM
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why does it have to be a PITA?
I mean unless you just don't want people who can't drive or re-arrange their schedules to vote. Otherwise why shouldn't everyone get a vote?
Last time I looked into it (for a primary), you had to request the ballot in writing, wait for it, fill it out and mail it in all before 30 days prior to the vote.
And they warn you that your vote will be ignored unless a recount is needed.
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Keeps the riff-raff from voting, right?***
Mar 19, 2015, 1:46 PM
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Partly, but also bc it needs to be seen as a civic duty
Mar 19, 2015, 2:44 PM
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The stuff you need to do to be prepared to vote and then to actually go vote is a good education in citizenship. People are already so individualistic that they pay almost no attention to politics except when somebody does something stupid or when an entertainer lampoons a politician. Voting online just like you'd fill out a buzzfeed quiz isn't going to improve that situation.
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Hanging chads were a treat compared to *THAT*.***
Mar 19, 2015, 11:00 AM
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Orange Blooded [2190]
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He just wants to control every aspect of our lives
Mar 19, 2015, 10:45 AM
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What part of the term "free society" does Barry not understand?
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He is King now so he can do whatever he wants without
Mar 19, 2015, 10:50 AM
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congressional approval and the pubs do NOTHING about it.
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i lift my leg when i pee***
Mar 19, 2015, 10:51 AM
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^^^ obviously wears short shorts***
Mar 19, 2015, 11:03 AM
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Speedo.***
Mar 19, 2015, 11:06 AM
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It increases the percentage of idiots voting
Mar 19, 2015, 11:11 AM
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which always plays to the democrats. I can see why Obama supports the idea. Plus, the dems can save millions not having to bus people to the polls, and buy them lunch and whatever else.
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Of course. People who were either too stupid to vote,
Mar 20, 2015, 2:57 PM
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or didn't care enough to vote, would now be voting, and those people will vote for Santa Claus every single time.
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There's a certain irony here.
Mar 19, 2015, 11:19 AM
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Freedom = democracy. Democracy = voting. Mandatory voting = curtailing freedom. Freedom = democracy...
That said, I ain't for or against.
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Orange Blooded [4616]
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I'll give you mandatory voting in exchange for voter ID and
Mar 19, 2015, 11:31 AM
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the elimination of straight party ticket voting.
Edit: And until I just looked it up right now, I didn't realize that South Carolina was one of only 10 states that allow a straight party ticket vote.
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High five.***
Mar 19, 2015, 11:32 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81076]
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Whats the penalty for NOT voting?
Mar 19, 2015, 12:38 PM
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Are they going to take THAT out my tax refund (that I don't get) too?
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I think it might help with the apathetic voting problem
Mar 19, 2015, 1:36 PM
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we just had the lowest voter turnout in more than 70 years and I think that's a huge problem for a democracy (if anything, Congress has gotten worse). Not to mention, the money/influence problem that Obama is attaching to the issue. I don't expect anything to come from the idea though. I think there is more of a push to get money out of politics and we see how little progress has been made in that area. But it's an interesting idea.
Democrats would love it because the one issue that tends to determine if they win/lose in an election is voter turnout. Much of their base is apathetic to politics/voting.
Republicans will oppose because they benefit from lower voter turnout (Look at the last election) so this is a threat to their party. Much of their base are older/emotional voters.
Obama won't have time to push for this, but as Republicans continue to make it harder and harder to vote I wonder if Democrats (like in Oregon) don't start trying to push for mandatory voting. Right now though, I don't see anything coming from this anytime soon.
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110%er [8243]
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If he leaves this one up to the states, and the blue
Mar 19, 2015, 1:39 PM
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states run with it, the red states won't have a choice but to follow.
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Legend [18026]
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Probably the only option to actually have this happen
Mar 19, 2015, 1:45 PM
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which, again, I seriously doubt ever happens.
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not to mention all the broken hard candy***
Mar 19, 2015, 1:45 PM
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Playing the game and liking how the game is played
Mar 19, 2015, 2:28 PM
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aren't the same thing.
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110%er [9666]
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The Dems base is apathetic to voting? I don't understand
Mar 19, 2015, 3:18 PM
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how having apathetic people voting is a plus for anyone.
Republicans are making it harder and harder to vote? How hard is it really?
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Legend [18026]
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depends on why they feel apathetic
Mar 19, 2015, 3:47 PM
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is it they don't care, or they don't think their vote matters or would make a difference? Making everyone vote would make every vote matter (gerrymandering would probably become even more important)
Shortening Early Voting, Election Day registration, 3rd party registration, voter Id, purging voter rolls all lowers voter turnout which, not surprisingly, is beneficial for republican candidates.
Funny thing is you see a reaction like in Oregon and in comments like Obama's when you see things like these voter suppression initiatives take place. Same thing is happening with Gay marriage and republican governments taking a more active legislative approach (from a state perspective at least).
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Just when you think he couldn't get any dumber...***
Mar 19, 2015, 2:13 PM
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I think you should have to pass...
Mar 19, 2015, 8:00 PM
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an American History and citizenship test and have an IQ of at least 115 to qualify to vote. I guess Obama and I both have issues.
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