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Heisman Winner [108392]
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anyone else happy tiger woods is an afterthought?
Jun 19, 2011, 5:59 PM
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i know i am.
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I actually would like to see him come back and win. ....***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:01 PM
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nothing against the guy, he was the most dominant player on
Jun 19, 2011, 6:03 PM
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tour for many years, but it got old to me how the networks hung their hats on him.
jack is the best there ever was and will be, bobby jones 2nd and tiger, we'll see.
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Yep.***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:07 PM
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hey hey capt., you slay the spot tails and specs bud?***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:09 PM
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Tiger could have been the best there was
Jun 19, 2011, 6:08 PM
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hence the media hype. But I don't think he's physically capable of performing like he once did. If he comes back and wins, he's probably the best ever because of how much he had to overcome medically.
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jack fought a bad back his entire career.***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:09 PM
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Re: jack fought a bad back his entire career.***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:15 PM
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That's comparing apples to oranges. How bad of a back? And how bad is Tiger's knee? It's hard to say. There's no way of quantifying these things.
All I know is that Tiger's victory at Torrey Pines in 2008 was the single most impressive feat I have seen a golfer complete. To win a major with a torn ACL is nothing short of amazing. No offense, but Jack never did that.
I'd still rank Jack as best ever currently, but Tiger definitely deserves to be up there with his shortened career. And I'm not so sure that Tiger wouldn't be on top if his injuries were more mild.
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nope there isn't so why make the statement you did?***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:17 PM
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Because I wasn't comparing injuries. You implicitly did***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:18 PM
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i was comparing careers and you brought up injuries, not me.***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:19 PM
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Sort of the same for me. In my mind, Tiger is the best there
Jun 19, 2011, 6:57 PM
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ever was, even though his career may have fizzled out prematurely. Taking into account the differences in technology, playing conditions, level of competition, etc., I just think tiger on his best day beats Jack or Hogan or Jones on their best day. That's not the only way to define "best there ever was" however, and it's just my opinion anyway.
Having said that, I don't miss Tiger, because the networks absolutely hung their hats on him, and it got nauseating the way they turned every tournament into The Tiger Woods Show regardless of how he was playing or who else was in contention; it was always all about Tiger; and while Tiger may have been the best ever and dominated the game, he was NOT bigger than the game itself (minus the media). Add to that the fact that I no longer have much respect for Tiger Woods the man, I don't miss him at all.
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Re: anyone else happy tiger woods is an afterthought?
Jun 19, 2011, 6:08 PM
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ABSOLUTELY!!! we have had tiger pushed down out throats for way too long!! sure is good that he is gone; hope he never comes back
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^^^^ i like this guy.***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:10 PM
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not really.... besides... he has a good name ;)***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:17 PM
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he has a great name, no doubt!***
Jun 19, 2011, 6:18 PM
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Don't speak too soon bud...
Jun 19, 2011, 6:38 PM
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people like you are quickly forgetting what Tiger has done and what he is still capable of. He's mid-30's... his career is far from over. He's been thru swing change "problems" before, but every time he's changed, he has won once he figured it out. However, he hasn't had the mental problems (scandal) and health issues like this. If Tiger can get healthy, he'll be Tiger again. Watch and see.
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i'm sorry, find something in my post that suggests he'll
Jun 19, 2011, 6:46 PM
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never win again or his days are done...
thanks for playing and i'll find a nice spot above my mantle to mount you.
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when you say someone is an afterthought, that usually
Jun 19, 2011, 6:52 PM
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suggests that they are done and will have no future success.
"an addition to something already completed"...
The dude isn't done yet
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he's not competing is he? he's been brought up only a
Jun 19, 2011, 6:54 PM
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handful of times, thus afterthought.
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Re: he's not competing is he? he's been brought up only a
Jun 19, 2011, 7:00 PM
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You must not be watching the same broadcast as the rest of us. They have mentioned Tiger Woods at least once every 10-15 minutes. They literally just did a 5 minute segment comparing Tiger to Jack, and the ages they won corresponding majors.
Haters gonna hate, but the truth is Tiger Woods won't be an afterthought until he retires.
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i'm watching the same broadcast and if you for a moment
Jun 19, 2011, 7:04 PM
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believe it's the same coverage it would be if tiger was actually competing you're daft.
afterthought.
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Re: i'm watching the same broadcast and if you for a moment
Jun 19, 2011, 7:19 PM
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I did not say it is the same coverage as if he were competing. But if he were an afterthought as you said, then there would little to no mention of him. I am simply stating as fact that his name has been mentioned over and over and over again throughout the US Open.
You may be confused as to the correct definition of the word "afterthought."
Either way, everybody is entitled to their opinions. You do not like Tiger Woods, or are at least happy that he is not competing in this year's US Open. That is fine. To each his own.
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jack has been mentioned as much in my opinion as a mentor
Jun 19, 2011, 7:23 PM
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to the 22 year old that's kicking everyone's assss.
jack can't compete, tiger could, which one would you consider an afterthought?
me, tiger would define it. and i am not a tiger hater, i've complimented the man several times. i just find it refreshing that he's not 12 strokes behind yet every wayward shot he would hit is televised.
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Not at all.
Jun 19, 2011, 6:57 PM
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Tiger opened up doors people once never thought possible. Golf ratings reached all time highs, participation amongst young men and women reached all time highs, and that was great for the game.
Look at the amount of 20-25 year old men on the PGA tour competing at an extremely high level. You can thank Tiger Woods for a lot of that. He inspired kids to pick up a club, and the PGA tour is now reeping the benefits.
Love him or hate him, he is GREAT for the game. TV ratings are significantly higher when he is playing. Ticket sales are significantly higher when he is playing. Purse size is significantly higher when he is playing. Dozens of players have publicly stated their feelings on the subject, and how they want and need Tiger to regain form.
Lastly, as an American, and a fan of all that is America, I want to see Tiger Woods put fear back into the hearts of players from around the world. I want the best player in the world to be from America, not anywhere else.
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that's more than reasonable but i don't want the best player
Jun 19, 2011, 7:02 PM
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in the world to be a complete asssshat on and off the course.
and he is.
the man is the best competitor i've seen in this age, i really admire him for that, but he's not the best to lace up the spikes. jack is.
i don't need my heroes to be dumbassses.
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I think people would cheer wildly for Charles Manson or
Jun 19, 2011, 7:10 PM
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Son Of Sam if they came on Oprah and said they were sorry, then went out and hit a golf ball like Tiger. It's just the society we live in.
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Re: that's more than reasonable but i don't want the best player
Jun 19, 2011, 7:14 PM
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Did you ever see Jack play in person, or on tv, while in his 20's or 30's? Do you know as FACT that he never cheated on his wife while on tour? Do you know as fact that he never cursed on the course, or at spectators who flashed pictures or made noises while he swung?
Unless you can say yes to all of those questions, then your response holds zero weight.
I feel supremely confident that Jack made his fair share of poor decisions while on tour. Without the likes of ESPN and papparazzi covering him 24/7 the way they do Tiger, we will never know for sure.
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Please. Jack played on t.v. constantly for over 20 years,
Jun 19, 2011, 7:27 PM
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and played in front of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people over a career that spanned almost thirty years, so it's not like the world was unaware of his behavior and personality on the course. As for his marital fidelity, even though there is no evidence of it, it would not shock me if he had wandered during his many years on the road, but I would be shocked if it approached the comic book proportions of Tiger's outlandish whoring. Not to mention Jack has been married to the same woman for over 50 years.
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^^^^ gets it.***
Jun 19, 2011, 7:31 PM
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yes, the greatest day of golf i ever saw was inverrary in
Jun 19, 2011, 7:31 PM
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the late 70s. frickin incredible.
and no, he was never accused of any of what you purport. he's one of the most recognizable people in the history of history and you think those things would go unreported? good luck with that tiger apologist.
lol... what a maroon you are.
next?
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wow
Jun 19, 2011, 7:46 PM
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Wow. Since when did message boards become filled with arrogant people hiding behind keyboards claiming their opinions are superior to those of others?
If anybody here is the maroon sir, it is you.
I stated an opinion that differs from your own, and that makes me "daft" or "maroon?" I even said that you are entitled to your own opinion, to each his own. But don't you dare try and tell me that I am not also entitled to my own opinion.
When Jack was at his peak, there was no such thing as ESPN. Sports reporting was not 1/1000th of what it is today. If Jack had slept with 500 women the public may have never known. What else has Tiger done wrong? Did he kick your dog?
It's quite sad that you are on this website not to read about sports, or discuss, but instead to "battle" other Clemson fans about various topics? You should really get out more. As for me, I'm going to go sit by the pool with a cold beer and watch the Gamecocks lose to Texas A&M.
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lol... you attempt to slander one of the most well known
Jun 19, 2011, 7:51 PM
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sports figures of all time and you find comfort by your pool?
god bless your lil cotton socks.
what a maroon.
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Re: anyone else happy tiger woods is an afterthought?
Jun 19, 2011, 7:44 PM
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Mickelson, too. Not sure why people like Mickelson so much.
He's such a phony. He's made up to be the Everyman, but he's had a silver spoon in his mouth since the day he was born.
He is, in effect, David Simms from Tin Cup.
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