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Little bit more about FSU BOT meeting tomorrow.
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Little bit more about FSU BOT meeting tomorrow.

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:31 PM
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It's still all speculation. Ross Dellinger, yahoo sports, has written an article saying that FSU will announce filing some sort of lawsuit to expedite leaving the ACC. Details about the nature of the suit are sketchy at best.

Now, just a small quibble. A lot of places are reporting "FSU is starting the process of leaving the ACC."

This is hardly the start. It is just the next step. It may be a big step, but it is just the next step. The process for leaving the ACC started the day after UCLA and USC announced they were going to the B1G. (Heck, it probably started the day TX and OU announced they were going to the SEC.)

But, it is clear that a lot of schools in the ACC are working in the self-preservation mode and making plans for life after the ACC.

Right now, FSU is taking the public lead in the fight. But, they ain't a lone wolf. There are others in the ACC who are quietly working behind the scenes but in conjunction with FSU.

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:37 PM
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Good luck and I am hoping your Noles forge some type of pathway through this mess so we can follow suit if we are able to find a landing spot

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:40 PM
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Ironic if the CFP selection committee gave FSU further ammunition to solidify a law suit …time will tell…

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:42 PM
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Brett, if no invites from the SEC or BIG - does FSU go independent again until something else opens up?

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Almost certainly not.

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:49 PM
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I can see no path, financially feasible, for FSU to try and go the Notre Dame route. BYU tried it and failed.

I am working under the hypothesis that FSU has an invite assured from one or both of the P2 just as soon as they can figure out a way to leave the ACC. I think there are a total of 4-8 teams that also have assurance (if you include the Big 12.

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:51 PM
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If FSU finds a way to break the GOR…
I’ll be remarkably grateful…

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Dec 21, 2023, 4:38 PM
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FSU's loophole may be just don't play. Stiffing Clemson a few years ago may have been a Beta test

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Dec 21, 2023, 4:41 PM
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A self-imposed death penalty. Interesting.

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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


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Dec 21, 2023, 7:19 PM
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that would be catastropic for fsu, i like it

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:54 PM [ in reply to Almost certainly not. ]
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When Maryland left the ACC, they refused to pay the millions that the ACC said they owed them, was that case ever settled in the courts???

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Dec 21, 2023, 4:03 PM
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I don’t believe they had the money. That athletic department was operating in the red during that time. Not sure what ever came of that ordeal.

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Dec 21, 2023, 4:51 PM
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They were supposed to pay 50 million. Settled for like 30 I think.

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Dec 21, 2023, 5:19 PM
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Andf I suspect that is probably what will happen with FSU. If they want to leave bad enough and the ACC realizes that, then I think there will some kind of negotiated settlement at significantly less than what the supposed departure penalty is.

I listened to EJ Manuel this afternoon on the radio and he made a lot of sense. He said his first choice is for FSU to stay in the ACC ....... which is mine too. I do not understand why someone is not woking behind the scenes (or maybe they are) to figure out a way to at least get the conference in the same ballpark with the SEC and Big 10. Somehow, we need to lure ND into the mix. I don't think the ACC falling apart is good for anyone, including the GOR holder!

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Dec 21, 2023, 5:27 PM [ in reply to Re: Almost certainly not. ]
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Maybe we could settle for halves too- 60 million exit fee and only 6 to 7 years of our TV rights money??

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Re: Little bit more about FSU BOT meeting tomorrow.

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:50 PM
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I believe that Clemson is one of those schools that has chosen the secret method of finding a way to vacate the ACC as soon as possible. Another thing that I'm sure of, and that is if FSU finds a way out before Clemson does, the truck will pull up to the front door with a sign saying F Y ACC, we're out of here right behind FSU. In fact, if the FSU truck driver lets off the gas, the Clemson driver will run into the back of him LOL;)

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I suspect FSU and Clemson are talking on at least.,..


Dec 21, 2023, 3:55 PM
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...a weekly basis and that Neff an the Clemson president are both aware of what will go on at the meeting tomorrow and have known for several days.

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Dec 21, 2023, 3:57 PM [ in reply to Re: Little bit more about FSU BOT meeting tomorrow. ]
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You're guessing and not sure of anything

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You are correct.

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Dec 21, 2023, 4:00 PM
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Everybody is guessing. I'm trying to separate what I am guessing and what I am posting that others are guessing. But, in the end, all are just guesses.

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Dec 21, 2023, 4:05 PM
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BUT, at the end FSU, Clemson, UNC, and probably couple more are going to do any and everything possible to upend the ACC like it's never experienced in the history of the ACC. I do remember back when the ACC was a decent FB conference along with Basketball, but that was a long time ago!!!

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Dec 21, 2023, 6:50 PM
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Before Swofford

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EJ Manual and Nicole Aurbach said on Sirius that FSU would be submitting legal


Dec 21, 2023, 4:38 PM
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Documents requesting a "declaratory judgment" from a judge to clarify some legal element. It sounds to me like they're seeking to confirm their legal understanding of some aspect of the GOR before they proceed with their strategy to fight it.

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I'm not attorney. I didn't stay at a HI express either.


Dec 21, 2023, 5:21 PM
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But, there is no doubt in my mind that several schools have paid even more lawyers thousands of dollars to explore the best possible legal way to get out of the GOR. This action tomorrow may be another step.

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This wasn't described as a first step the implication was that there's already a


Dec 21, 2023, 6:38 PM
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Developed legal strategy in place and this is a due diligence step to ensure that their case wasn't gonna be summarily shot down due to some legal interpretation. I'm not a lawyer either but this is how it was presented by the radio hosts

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Re: I'm not attorney. I didn't stay at a HI express either.


Dec 21, 2023, 7:14 PM [ in reply to I'm not attorney. I didn't stay at a HI express either. ]
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One possibility could be that FSU will claim that the failure of the ACC to bolster their CFP birth resulted in damages exceeding what they would collect as a member of the ACC.

I don't buy that but what IS a national championship worth? And is there any angle FSU could take that would convince the ACC to relent in upholding the GOR rather than let them walk, at least at a big discount?

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Re: Little bit more about FSU BOT meeting tomorrow.

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Dec 21, 2023, 4:43 PM
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Rumor is they will seek declaratory relief from a court of law on the effectiveness of the GOR. Here is a primer for anyone interested.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/declaratory_relief#:~:text=Declaratory%20relief%20allows%20a%20party,parties%20bring%20a%20coercive%20lawsuit.

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Whatever bretfsu,,,for now just Beat The Dawgs!

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Dec 21, 2023, 5:24 PM
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Go ACC!

LOL~

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