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Orange Blooded [3855]
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TNET Logic......
Aug 14, 2013, 1:47 PM
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It is classless to have an offensive sign at gameday... and it will embarrass the school... but it is not classless to beat up someone because of an offensive sign, and a group beat down during gameday wont embarrass Clemson.... great logic. FYI It's easy to threaten beating up someone on the internet...
Secondly, I am stupid/ Clemson lowered their requirements because of my sign idea... Please explain how my lack of supposed moral consciousness is a direct reflection of my intelligence. Jeffrey Skilling was far from stupid, but lacked "moral consciousness." There are a lot of successful people that are intelligent, but lack tnet's moral consciousness. I would go as far as saying it is ignorant to imply my education has a direct correlation with my moral code. (I have a moral code btw...I care about animals and volunteer at my local animal shelter...It's people that i don't have the sympathy for.)
Thirdly, I pay for my college on my dime while working a great job. I can assure you that I have to work much harder than the average college student. The Clemson curriculum is much less stressful than the stress of paying for school. When I graduate from Clemson in December I will also be more proud of myself than most students due to the work. As for the coot comments, I will be happy to tmail you a copy of my student ID if you like...
Question for yall.
What is offensive about my sign? Lattimore was able to leave college early and plays for a great NFL team. The NFL picked him up because he will fully recover. I would assume that Lattimore has no regrets. If anything his injury got him on a better team.
I fully enjoy TNET for the Clemson information. I just find it funny that the users on here jump to anything that they find different. That's the same mentality that lead to every mass genocide... (food for thought).
Thank You for reading,
GO TIGERS!
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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Do you lift bro?***
Aug 14, 2013, 1:49 PM
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110%er [5249]
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Your intent would be red as celebrating an injury
Aug 14, 2013, 1:50 PM
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Regardless of how you meant it, that's how it will be perceived, and perception is 9/10ths of it all. Did you think any of the signs making fun of Sammy when gameday wasn't even with us were funny? It looked really pathetic, imo. ESPN will be at Clemson because of the great matchup between Clemson and UGA, and because we're both poised for big seasons, not because of our respective in-state rivalry. If a Dawg fan came with a sign making fun of GT...well, I don't think I'm alone in thinking that would be absurd.
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110%er [5249]
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*Read...in before any tnet police jumps on 'red'***
Aug 14, 2013, 1:51 PM
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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110%er [5249]
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Yes...why even bring any attention to them?***
Aug 14, 2013, 1:53 PM
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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I understand the offensiveness of the sign.
Aug 14, 2013, 1:55 PM
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I was just saying how funny it is to watch people attack me for the same stuff they are mad about..
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All-In [29036]
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No, they aren't
Aug 14, 2013, 2:20 PM
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They are "attacking" you (really, they are simply responding in the measure you intended) because they feel your idiocy reflects poorly on an institution they love.
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Re: TNET Logic......
Aug 14, 2013, 1:51 PM
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CU_Tigers_time logic = Coot logic
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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Please explain..... it's not hard buddy,***
Aug 14, 2013, 1:53 PM
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Legend [19586]
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Re: Please explain..... it's not hard buddy,***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:10 PM
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Read the post directly below mine by CuTigerBob
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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that doesn't prove or disprove my logic.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:17 PM
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Legend [19586]
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Re: that doesn't prove or disprove my logic.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:29 PM
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Common sense disproves your "logic"
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Oculus Spirit [96857]
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I don't doubt that you're intelligent...
Aug 14, 2013, 1:56 PM
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but you definitely lack some common sense. In the words of the immortal Jerry Clower, "I believe you're educated beyond your intelligence."
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Starter [395]
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Grow up kid...
Aug 14, 2013, 1:58 PM
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You are way out of line.
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All-TigerNet [11208]
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Re: TNET Logic......
Aug 14, 2013, 1:58 PM
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Don't you think you have embarrassed yourself enough...
Aug 14, 2013, 2:00 PM
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Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent - Proverbs 17: 28
The wise man speaks because he has something to say.
The fool speaks because he has to say something.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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Boom.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:02 PM
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Roasted.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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lol....***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:04 PM
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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good one***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:06 PM
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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Bible verses......
Aug 14, 2013, 2:04 PM
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"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)
"Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and #####." (1 Samuel 15:3)
(im not an atheist btw)
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Oculus Spirit [96857]
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Nice. Now you're taking bible verses out of context.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:05 PM
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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This guy sure knows how to make friends.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:07 PM
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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explain the context of them....
Aug 14, 2013, 2:09 PM
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If the bible is the "holy" book wouldn't it say slaves are bad? Or are slave morally right? There are many great things in the bible, but there are also a lot of messed up stuff in the bible.
Westboro baptist church follows the bible better than most churches fyi..
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Re: explain the context of them....
Aug 14, 2013, 2:12 PM
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If you understood anything about the Bible, you would understand the difference between the new and old covenants.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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the old covenant isn't important?
Aug 14, 2013, 2:14 PM
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The 10 commandments and the anti gay parts are written in the old covenant...
Think about your own contradiction.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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lol now I KNOW you don't know what the bible says.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:17 PM
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The Old covenant is important in understanding the events that point to and lead up to Jesus.
The "legality" or law of the old testament is no longer the law of God in after the new covenant, just the we live in obedience in what christ teaches, which points a lot to the important "rules" to live by. (love, turning of the cheek, not passing judgement, etc)
And actually there is "anti-gay", as you put it, stuff in the new testament in Paul's letters.
Read up brah.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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I believe there is evidence to support a god
Aug 14, 2013, 2:22 PM
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I also know there is a lot of evidence to disprove the bible.
Japan boycotted the west from entering their country. During this time there was little to no western influence in Japan. That means nearly 100% of the people that died in Japan during this time went to h ell. Am I right with that?
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Legend [19586]
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Re: I believe there is evidence to support a god
Aug 14, 2013, 2:26 PM
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Depends what you believe. Some people teach that individuals who never heard the name "Jesus" go to hell. I believe in a more merciful God and think those folk are FOS.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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Yikes dude. I'm happy to have this conversation with you
Aug 14, 2013, 2:28 PM
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via tmail if you ACTUALLY want to but this isn't the time or place for that.
However I get the feeling that you're just trying to stump me, in which case I don't care. I'm happy to explain my belief on that if you want.
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CU Medallion [64590]
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Uhhh...not necessarily
Aug 14, 2013, 2:33 PM
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There are people (even some Christians) who will tell you that all those who die without faith in Christ will be relegated to spend eternity in Hell - even if they have never heard the gospel.
I think scripture suggests otherwise - that we are judged on the basis of what we know and how we act upon it.
Those who have heard the gospel of Jesus Christ and have refused to believe have rejected Him, and, as such, will fall under the condemnation of God, because they have rejected His provision for our disobedience.
If you really want to continue this discussion, ther are other more appropriate forums rather than the Mainge Board.
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Re: the old covenant isn't important?
Aug 14, 2013, 2:25 PM
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The old covenant is no more. Those laws are to no longer be followed.
The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”
God's commandments are now in your heart, your own conviction, your own personal relationship.
I'm not contradicting anything.
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Re: Re: the old covenant isn't important?
Aug 14, 2013, 2:32 PM
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Hey wait a minute. ESPN clearly told the world that the names God and The Lord were to be replaced with Nick Saban. And no more Amens. Just say, In the name of the SEC we pray, roll tide.
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Orange Blooded [2418]
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Re: TNET Logic......
Aug 14, 2013, 2:01 PM
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Making a sign about a SCar player during a game that has nothing to do with SCar is cootish in itself.
Why on earth do we want a picture of a coot and the garnet and black polluting one of the most beautiful backdrops in college football?
It would be very coot-like for them to have a "Clempzon sucks" sign if they were in gameday, but we dont do that.
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Let me ask you this....
Aug 14, 2013, 2:01 PM
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If Gameday came for FSU vs Clemson, would you make a Gameday sign making fun of Jimbo Fisher's kid and his disease? Making fun of Lattimore's injuries in the same thing.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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how is that the same thing???
Aug 14, 2013, 2:06 PM
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Where is lattimore right now?! That is no where near the same thing. I'm glad football and disease are the same with you.
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110%er [5249]
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Disagree that it's the same, but the principle may be
Aug 14, 2013, 2:10 PM
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A recovered injury to a player who puts his body on the line (who now makes loads of money to do what he loves) is different than a child with a disease he didn't ask for.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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see, we somewhat agree on two things... this and Clemson ;)***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:12 PM
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Re: how is that the same thing???
Aug 14, 2013, 2:12 PM
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It's absolutely the same thing. If you can't see it, then that's your problem.
Neither Jimbo's kid nor Lattimore asked for what happened to them. It's called life. It's called bad luck. As they say $#!+ happens.
Now I'll grant you that Lattimore engaged in a risky behavior (football), but hundreds of people play the game and never get significantly injured. To have it happen twice was a terrible misfortune and almost cost him his entire football career. It worked out for him, but that was simply due to some good fortune (the 2nd injury looking worse than it was) and hard work.
For you think it's funny is a deafening comment on your character, or lack thereof.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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still not there bud.... football vs being born with disease.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:15 PM
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All-In [29036]
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I don't think them the same thing
Aug 14, 2013, 2:17 PM
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But I do think the sentiment of enjoying the injuries of others is similar. Simply put, theres no reasons a reasonable person should enjoy (or make fun of) injuries to folks who play a game we enjoy.
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110%er [6321]
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Re: how is that the same thing???
Aug 14, 2013, 3:09 PM
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Where is Lattimore today?? He is in rehab TRYING to make an NFL team. At this point, no one knows if he will ever play football again. This is because of an injury that will be with him a lifetime, just as a disease will be with someone a lifetime.
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All-In [29036]
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Simple logic
Aug 14, 2013, 2:13 PM
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Only an A-hole likes to make fun of injuries to another player.
This sign does that.
Its a free country, you can choose to be that A-hole, but don't be upset when you get the reaction that signs made by A-holes get.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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im not upset...
Aug 14, 2013, 2:16 PM
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i find it funny. I just questioned the logic... if you simply state that the sign is an a hole move good for you.
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All-In [29036]
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You tried to get a reaction
Aug 14, 2013, 2:18 PM
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And you did. Congrats.
Don't be shocked though when your sign makes you look like an idiot, and folks, by proxy, will assume Clemson fanbase is made up of idiots.
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Team Captain [468]
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how long did it take to come up with your manifesto and how
Aug 14, 2013, 2:18 PM
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many re-edits did you have to do? Nice try on showing of that IQ bro
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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I'm not trying ;) but glad you think so.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:24 PM
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I'm just asking simple questions. I don't see how my sign idea implies i'm uneducated.
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Legend [18069]
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Dude I've been you. Smart-ass, know-it-all college student.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:25 PM
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I graduated in 2004, so I'm not ancient.
My advice?
Listen up to what people are telling you. Despite what you may think, you do not know it all.
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All-In [29036]
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I'm guessing most, if not all, of us
Aug 14, 2013, 2:28 PM
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Have at one time been that guy.
It's good to get some perspective from other folks pointing out your foolishness during those times.
Sadly, few ever really listen till they figure it out themselves.
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Legend [18069]
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Yep! Some lessons you just have to learn on your own.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:29 PM
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And those are usually the ones that hurt the most...
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You sound ghey***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:31 PM
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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great argurment rulezzzz***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:35 PM
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All-In [40656]
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Listen, punk
Aug 14, 2013, 2:44 PM
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I just graduated in May and I was in a fraternity, and I still think this is a horrible idea. The only idiots that would have thought about doing something as stupid, immature and idiotic as what your sign suggests are the ones that also flunked out and ended up at community college, if they were that lucky.
You are a poor reflection of Clemson University. Your parents, your peers and anyone associated with Clemson University will be ashamed of you. You have been attacked on here by almost ever poster and you still refuse to give any ground.
I was a stubborn little #### for a long time and still am about some things, but I would never attack someone the way you are planning, especially at how professionally he handled himself during his time at SCU.
Yea, this may be fun and all to you and your boyfriends to joke around about, but if you do pull a stunt like this, it will leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth that sees this sign. Along with that, I can easily see any future opportunity of hosting Gameday being thrown out the window because of our "tasteless" fans.
Do a favor for all of us, grow up and stop acting like an immature fool. If you dont want to do that, then go ahead and do us a favor and drink some bleach, dude.
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Re: Listen, punk
Aug 14, 2013, 2:46 PM
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CU_Tigers_time comes off as a know it all, ahole kid....
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Reality is gonna hit him hard in the face
Aug 14, 2013, 2:48 PM
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As a 23 year old, I know how seriously employers look for signs of character, and how important it is in a hiring process. I hope this stunt, should he go through with it, red flag any employers in his future.
Message was edited by: clemsonrulez08®
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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please explain....
Aug 14, 2013, 2:54 PM
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How is an employer going to know about this? I'm not doing anything illegal.... I'm not posting it on my private facebook....
and I have a job while in school  . How else would I pay for my education. My next promotion can't happen without a degree. They also don't hire from the streets so I have zero competition.
I bet Clemson will be happy to include my job in the hired student statistics.
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Internet is a scary place man. Anything can happen***
Aug 14, 2013, 3:00 PM
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Re: Listen, punk
Aug 14, 2013, 2:49 PM
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haha nice threats bro... I'm glad you had to defend your frat lol. I'll be at the game and fill free to confront me if you'd like. Way to vent and not make any legit points towards your counter argument.
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All-In [40656]
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Where did I threaten you? Please quote me.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:53 PM
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Re: Where did I threaten you? Please quote me.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:56 PM
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suggesting I drink bleach. I believe that suggestion would threaten my well-being... or am i wrong.. hopefully your future employer doesn't find out about you threats on tnet lol...
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Legend [19586]
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Re: Where did I threaten you? Please quote me.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:58 PM
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not only are you a know it all, richardhead, lack common sense, but you also lack the ability to detect sarcasm...
Sheldon Cooper, that you?
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CU@TFL is killing it today.***
Aug 14, 2013, 3:00 PM
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All-In [40656]
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Lets go ahead and break this one down
Aug 14, 2013, 3:05 PM
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I have a job, making more than you will ever make skating around the Sonic Drive In, so I will give you a little bit of my $.02.
Ill quote Wikipedia, since thats probably where you get your "facts" to write all of your deeply thought out papers.
"A threat is an act of coercion wherein an act is proposed to elicit a negative response. It is a communicated intent to inflict harm or loss on another person."
To drink bleach, would be, in fact, you inflicting damage upon yourself. Because I did not state, "I will pour bleach down your throat," I did not threaten you.
As for my job, my Facebook, which is also private, was the first thing my employer searched after our interview. I was told this by the owner upon hiring. They said I had enough pictures drinking beer for them to trust my judgement.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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I dont work sonic.
Aug 14, 2013, 3:13 PM
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I also didn't bring pay up.... I will receive very competitive pay for my field of study. That doesn't imply i'll be making more or less than your job. I will say that pay and stock plan is the only reason i stick around my job. I hate it, but need money to start my own business down the road.
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All-In [40656]
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You are a sad, sad individual
Aug 14, 2013, 3:18 PM
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You cant defend one of my statements, so you go ahead target another of my points.
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Legend [15749]
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We could debate whether your work ethic or intelligence
Aug 14, 2013, 2:38 PM
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is worthy of anyone's respect.
You came to Tigernet with your idea for a Gameday sign and the near-universal feedback was that it was a horrible idea.
If you care about the opinions of other Tigernet fans...
If you care about the opinions of older alumni...
If you are sensible enough to err on the side of caution with regard to your portrayal of Clemson fans on a national broadcast...
Then you won't use that sign.
If all that matters to you is your friends' validation and your personal amusement, then I guess the rest of us have to work up our "that guy isn't a good representation of most Clemson fans" speech when people we know see that sign.
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Re: We could debate whether your work ethic or intelligen
Aug 14, 2013, 2:42 PM
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I just was pointing out the issues with some of tnets arguments. Most of their "insults" were contradicting themselves.
One guy said I was from the North..... that's not a backwoods white trash view....
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Legend [15749]
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You understand that Tigernet is made up of several people,
Aug 14, 2013, 2:47 PM
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right?
So if you upset a group of people and they throw various insults at you, they aren't necessarily going to be aligned. You get that, right?
I realize that you have a lot of respect for your own intellect, but these posts are not representing you as particularly intelligent. You started with a horrible, embarrassing idea, and now you're flailing wildly at all comers like a drunk in a bar. At one point you responded to a bible quote by pointing out that the bible doesn't speak out against slavery. You're all over the place.
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All-In [29036]
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Look, lets be honest here
Aug 14, 2013, 2:47 PM
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You came up with an idea for a sign that you knew was classless and would get the general reaction it did. You attempted to defend it below, and then decided instead to turn your attention to the reaction it received.
I won't attack you for your idea.
However, I will openly say it's an idiotic thing to do and it would reflect poorly on the Clemson fanbase. But you knew all that beforehand. You posted it to get the hostile reaction you did. Don't say something you know will result in a negative reaction and then complain about the reaction. That is either trolling, or questionable logic, at best.
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Its really a lack of maturity.***
Aug 14, 2013, 2:55 PM
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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remove the "moral/class/etc.." aspect from the situation....
Aug 14, 2013, 2:56 PM
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moral aspect aside you/clemson fans look like absolute idiots making fun of a team/program that has OWNED us recently.
we have ZERO room to talk right now..........and if you think we do you'll make a fool out of yourself.
good luck "A" getting the sign into the "area".......and "B" keeping the thousands of clemson fans from "doing the right thing" and having/making you take it down.
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Orange Blooded [3855]
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I thought about getting the sign in..
Aug 14, 2013, 3:15 PM
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This is the easiest offensive sign to get in. It will look like a normal full body lattimore cut out. They wont question it. The legs wouldn't be spinning until the cameras started to roll....
come on man, i know the monitor this stuff.
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Orange Blooded [2557]
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=two words that should never go together***
Aug 14, 2013, 3:00 PM
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Re: TNET Logic......
Aug 14, 2013, 3:04 PM
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It's really kind of sad that you are wasting your money on an education that is obviously not taking.
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quit being a wuss and just get to work on the sign***
Aug 14, 2013, 3:13 PM
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110%er [6101]
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Lost me at "Secondly, I am stupid/"***
Aug 14, 2013, 3:21 PM
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nm
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110%er [5121]
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My only reply to this troll:
Aug 14, 2013, 3:26 PM
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As an Alumnus of Clemson University, I care how we are perceived by others. Anyone who would willingly do something to make Clemson look bad should not be shown any respect and should be neutralized if possible. If that means that I have to drag your ### behind Tillman and beat the coot out of you...well, it must be done.
Being a student does not mean that you are not an enemy of our University.
There is no reason for a single SC related sign to appear on Gameday until November. They don't have enough of my respect for that. I will not discuss them until November.
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