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The media is always either asking the wrong questions or
Nov 8, 2022, 2:43 PM
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not willing to hold a coach's feet to the fire.
Then there's time's like today they flat out butter up the coaches with a question that, instead of actually pursuing an answer to a legitimate concern with the team, they form the question in a way that praises the coach and throws up the soft ball right in their sweet spot. Exhibit A:
"I think because you're such a positive person and would never throw a player or another coach under the bus, some of those loudest voices out there say "well he just doesn't understand, he doesn't understand the issues, he doesn't do that" but I would imagine behind closed doors there's been some hard coaching with the assistant coaches or with the player. You think sometimes people just don't grasp it?"
I don't think the majority of Clemson fans believe that Dabo doesn't know the issues. I think we all know that he knows what the issues are. That's not even a legitimate question. We know he's not an idiot.
What the majority of fans (who aren't delusional to think that nothing needs to change) are concerned with is whether or not Dabo is WILLING to fix the issues this team has even if it means cutting ties with someone or benching someone and/or why these changes are not pursued.
Here, let me form a question for Dabo that isn't concerned with staying in his good graces and buttering him up:
"Dabo, this offense has been struggling for the better part of 2 seasons. Many fans and national pundits believed that you should have looked outside the program to replace Tony Elliot given the offensive issues of 2021 and brought in a new offensive scheme. With the offense continuing to struggle, do you believe that the current offensive system at Clemson is effective enough to keep this program among the nation's elite or is it possible that changes may come to the offense at Clemson in 2023?"
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Let me answer for Dabo
Nov 8, 2022, 2:49 PM
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My sons aren't quite old enough to take over the reigns of Offensive Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator. Give us 3-4 years and then we'll talk.
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Re: Let me answer for Dabo
Nov 8, 2022, 2:57 PM
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Let me offer a critique . . .
Nov 8, 2022, 2:55 PM
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I like your post, but I think the way you worded that hypothetical question - it's destined to fail, and not elicit a meaningful response. The critique in your premise, and the substance you're getting at in your question are great, but let's face it, if we were to strip that question down to it's essence, it's a question about whether or not he's second-guessing or regretting his hires, and/or if he's willing to considering firing or demoting them in favor of a new hire.
Don't get me wrong, it's a fair topic to pursue, but he's NOT gonna answer that in any candid way. Frankly, if I were in his position, and my honest answer was "yes, I'm regertting my hires and considering a change," I still would NOT say so directly or in that forum, b/c that's not the time nor place, and would be extremely undiplomatic and uncharitable and unfair to those who'd be finding out their heads were on the chopping block. Even if I planned to do something about it, I wouldn't say so in answer to that question. I don't think it's either reasonable nor fair to expect Dabo would either. I'd lose respect for him if he did.
That being the case, how might one word the question so as to possibly elicit the same substantive answer ABOUT THE OFFENSE, w/o asking Dabo to start naming names for pink slips. I think you could word it similarly but w/o reference to the hires and just limit the references to the continued lack of productivity of the offense, and may be specify how married he and the staff seem to be to our offense gameplans and playcalling tendencies, and ask if after all of 2021 and most of '22, does he still think our offensive philosophy is on a robust and upward trajectory IN TERMS OF SCHEME AND philosophy (i.e. not execution).
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Re: Let me offer a critique . . .
Nov 8, 2022, 3:02 PM
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I disagree here. The question does not directly ask if he will fire anyone or if he should have not hired Streeter. Co-OC is a possibility. Taking a trip out west to study a different offense like this staff has done in the past is a possibility. Both of those can be done without firing anyone or saying he's going to fire anyone or saying he should or shouldn't have hired anyone or saying he should hire anyone going forward.
The question is worded in a way that Dabo can answer it to give a general idea of what he is thinking in terms of the future of this offense.
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Orange Blooded [2753]
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Oh, don't get me wrong . .
Nov 8, 2022, 3:38 PM
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l'm not saying it constitutes a "direct" question of "will you fire Coach X." But the language you wrote here:
"Many fans and national pundits believed that you should have looked outside the program to replace Tony Elliot given the offensive issues of 2021 and brought in a new offensive scheme."
. . . that language is unavoidably calling into question the propriety of his internal hiring, which, naturally, he'll take as a question about whether he's competent in his hiring, and will respond accordingly by defending his hiring and those coaches. You're right, he technically COULD answer w/ some of the options you mentioned (going to study another program, etc.) but b/c the question is predicated on a point about which we know he'll get defensive, rather than limited to the a substantive critique of the offense, he'll likely take that road (defending his staff and their philosophy), rather than answering constructively about ideas for fixing the offense. He could do either, but if there's no premise about the possible hiring mistake, he won't have the option to distract from the offensive stuff by way of generic defenses of his hiring philosophy, after which he probably won't ever even get around to the offensive system stuff.
You see that in interviews and press conferences a lot. Someone gets asked a compound question "Mr. President/Coach, etc. what about issue X and related issue Y?" Very often their filibuster on X leads to conveniently forgetting or ignoring Y, giving the impression they answered. If Dabo is asked a substantive question about the efficacy of their offensive system, couched in a premise about the possibility that he made the wrong hire, I can virtually guarantee he'll defend his guys and not answer the other part.
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Re: Oh, don't get me wrong . .
Nov 8, 2022, 3:46 PM
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I see your point. The reason I included it was to give a previous season basis for why fans would feel the way they do this season now that the offense is still struggling. But that's a fair point.
With that said, it's still better than the buttering-up questions that aren't really questions at all that the current media soft toss up to the podium.
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The buttering up . . .
Nov 8, 2022, 3:56 PM
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Amen. I guess I have to assume that the reason they often ask soft-balls is b/c they are non-confrontational types who (understandably) like the people they are reporting on and don't want to rain on their parade (and don't want to disrupt that working relationship with any bad vibes, which I can understand, but like you said - they have a job to do. There's a way to do it w/o being a jerk - even if it's at times uncomfortable.
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Re: The media is always either asking the wrong questions or
Nov 8, 2022, 3:08 PM
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Dabo will not answer staff change questions during the season. I believe he knows he has to make changes and will. In the off season. Stay tuned. The question I’d like asked is what percentage of plays are you calling?
Go Tigers!
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Re: The media is always either asking the wrong questions or
Nov 8, 2022, 3:10 PM
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I thought this last season and it didn't happen. We stuck with the same exact offense.
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What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 8, 2022, 3:25 PM
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"So do you want me making decisions off of what anonymous keyboard heroes and Paul Feinbaum says?"
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 8, 2022, 3:48 PM
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His answer to that could be infinite. How about a simple acknowledgement that changes to the scheme need to be made in some form or fashion? Simple enough?
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 8, 2022, 3:52 PM
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Because a new scheme can't do anything if you don't have the players to execute it.
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 8, 2022, 4:06 PM
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If you don't think we have the talent on this roster to be an elite offense in a dominant scheme then you're just not paying attention. We have light year's more talent than a team like TCU. They were the 65th best offense in 2021. For the past 7 or 8 years their QB play has been abysmal. Their passing game non-existent. Sonny Dykes and Garrett Riley shows up and year 1 they're 4th in the nation in total offense, 22nd in passing offense (236 yards per game to 289).
No I don't buy the narrative that our offense sucks due to talent.
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 8, 2022, 6:04 PM
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The truth is not contingent on you buying it. The receivers are not that talented. They can't get separation. Obviously the quarterback isn't that great either.
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 9, 2022, 8:34 AM
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Again, if we're using the TCU example
DJ > Max Duggan
Max Duggan isn't even in the same league with Cade in talent
Our WRS > Quentin Johnston and Darius Davis
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 9, 2022, 8:42 AM
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You're going by recruiting rankings, not actual talent.
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 9, 2022, 8:47 AM
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I'm going by actual talent. DJ has 10x the arm and accuracy as Duggan. Duggan is much more mobile. Cade is more talented in every aspect of passing and probably neck and neck in mobility. Antonio Williams would run circles around every WR TCU has and Randall is more talented than both their top wideouts. Shipley is more talented than any RB they have.
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Re: What should be Dabo's answer to that question
Nov 10, 2022, 7:19 AM
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Too bad Uiagalelei hasn't been 10x more accurate, or that Williams hasn't run circles around opposing defenses.
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14 in a row, 8-1, eleventy 10+ win season, quackers are going to quack
Nov 8, 2022, 3:56 PM
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Next question!
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Re: 14 in a row, 8-1, eleventy 10+ win season, quackers are going to quack
Nov 8, 2022, 4:08 PM
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This defense would work if we weren't on a downward trend on both sides of the ball over the last 3-4 years.
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How was the defense on a downward trend last year?
Nov 8, 2022, 4:15 PM
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Offense this year is better than last years, how is that downward? It's not 2018 level, but it's up. It's not where we want it, but it's better.
I'm not saying some changes aren't necessary or won't be coming. But they aren't happening with 5 games left this year. Maybe some adjustments, but a major change in philosophy in game 10 is a recipe for disaster.
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Re: How was the defense on a downward trend last year?
Nov 8, 2022, 4:33 PM
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The 2022 defense is no where in the same zip code as any defense we have had in 10 years. This defense is currently ranked the worst defense since 2012, the year BV showed up.
The offense at this current moment of November 2022 is worse than the offense running onto the field in November of 2021. The offense has regressed exponentially since September and is remarkably worse overall over the last 2 years than any offense we've had since 2010.
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'What are you doing to fix this offense to make it...
Nov 9, 2022, 8:56 AM
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competitive at the highest level?'
That's much simpler, and therefor, understandable to the majority of readers.
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Re: 'What are you doing to fix this offense to make it...
Nov 9, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Yes even this would suffice as opposed to "asking" a "question" that basically doesn't ask a question at all but seems to try and insinuate that those with questions are simply fringe fans.
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