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Defeating Biden in November
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Jan 29, 2024, 9:47 AM
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For those who think Biden is doing a lousy job and shouldn’t have another four years – which is the majority of the country – getting him out of office in November should be the #1 priority.
Who do polls say has the best chance of beating Biden? Haley. According to the below article (and several other polls), she polled at 53% - 45% over Biden in a head-to-head matchup, and this was back in early January, well before everyone dropped out, before the NH primary, and before many voters got a chance to familiarize themselves with her. The margin of error for this poll was 3.1 points. Even with that applied, she still beats Biden head-to-head.
The article makes a good point that has come up here – “She draws more moderates and independents and more voters with college degrees than Trump does against Biden.” If you don’t believe/know that independents and moderates win elections, then you don’t know anything about presidential election history. Not saying that to be critical – but it’s a simple fact of presidential elections in the past several decades, especially as the number of independents has grown in recent years. Another interesting point – “She also peels off more 2020 Biden supporters than either Trump or DeSantis does, and erases Mr. Biden's edge with women.”
All the Trumpers will say, “She, she’s not a real conservative!!” This is the problem with Trump. He wants 100% commitment and dedication from his voters, no matter what. You are with him 100% or you are against him 100%. Only he is right. Only his policies are correct. If you disagree to any degree, you are not wanted. He actually basically verbalized this when he told Haley donors that he wouldn’t accept them into his exclusive “MAGA” club if they continued to support her and he won the election. That’s not the kind of president this country needs or that many people – of any party – want.
A conservative can get Democrat votes without compromising their beliefs. There is such a thing as a conservative Democrat. Most would be fiscally conservative but socially liberal. Those are the ones a Republican is most likely to win. Well, any Republican other than Trump, that is.
A couple more points – “she polls about even among those looking for a president who shows empathy and is open to compromise — qualities that large majorities of voters say is important to them. By contrast Mr. Biden leads Trump and DeSantis among voters who want these qualities. And Haley does just as well as Trump and DeSantis, if not a little better, among voters who say showing toughness is important.”
Again, Trumpers would say that compromise is a bad thing and that it’s not good leadership – which is exactly the OPPOSITE of what good presidential leadership is. Compromise and consensus building – not division. Pretty much every non-Trump voter believes this – and that’s more than enough voters to defeat Biden.
And toughness? Haley’s toughness is a principled toughness. Trump’s is an arrogant toughness. His quote after the NH primary – which he won! – “I don’t get mad. I get even.” No one – except the die-hard Trumpers – want that kind of excuse for leadership.
If you want to defeat Biden in November there’s only one realistic choice, and that’s Haley. Period. If you’re naïve enough to say something as ridiculous as “I’m not going to vote for her because she can’t win” – then you need to think about that statement. Imagine a coach saying “We’re not going to play because I don’t think we can win.” It makes no sense.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nikki-haley-fares-best-against-biden-2024-presidential-election-poll/
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No one defeats the drop box***
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Jan 29, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Heisman Winner [138296]
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Happy to hear that you're not wasting your time voting this year.
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Jan 29, 2024, 10:03 AM
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Remember, if your team loses, the only possible explanation is that the other guys cheated.
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I never underestimate the ignorance of the American people.***
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Jan 29, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Heisman Winner [138296]
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Me neither, bro.
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Jan 29, 2024, 10:42 AM
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Heisman Winner [112032]
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So you are of the opinion that
Jan 29, 2024, 10:32 AM
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people can forge Bar codes that correspond to a particular person's voter registration, along with their signature, home address, and voter registration number printed on the inside. Is there a Google app that does this or something?
Please explain to me how this works, otherwise, I think it is fair to assume you are talking completely out fo your a>ss.
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The ballots are legit, the person completing them is not.***
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Jan 29, 2024, 10:40 AM
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Re: The ballots are legit, the person completing them is not.***
Jan 29, 2024, 10:50 AM
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to receive a mail in ballot yo have to provide information that only the registered voter would know, and it is mailed to their address. You have not a fugging clue what you are talking about.
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All-TigerNet [13222]
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LOL @ you. Why are thousands of mail-ballots not sent back in the mail?
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Jan 29, 2024, 11:14 AM
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Cause of harvesting.
One method: Once mail ballots go out, harvesters show up at a voter’s door and offer “voting assistance.” They often appear friendly, and helpful. Successful vote harvesters leave with a voter’s signature and a ballot that is blank, that is “correctly” voted, or that can be modified later. Or the harvester can simply discard the ballot if the voter chose the “wrong” candidate. Done effectively, the process is largely invisible to the voter, who is led to believe their ballot was cast according to their wishes.
Another method: Eight states mail ballots to every registered voter. Who mails those out? Voter registrars, hmmm. So, as a registration office worker, I can take 1000 ballots of registered voters and fill them out and then drop them in a box on election day. There are no controls or "mail" chains of custody when they were never mailed in the first place. OOOOHHH, signature verification? LOL. One: that is racist, and two: they never match and never get tossed because of it. Guess what happens when one of those people actually show up to vote? The second ballot they fill out is tossed, lol. No ###.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-praises-pennsylvania-automatic-voter-registration-key-swing-state-conservatives-cry-foul
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yes, and the democrats can do this
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Jan 29, 2024, 12:52 PM
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because none of them have jobs. They are free to roam the neighborhoods...
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Just to clarify, you believe that a mail-in ballot for Joe Voter
Jan 29, 2024, 1:06 PM
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could simply be held by the registrar, and then the registrar simply checks the box for Biden (because Republicans don't cheat in elections) and mails it in on Election Day? And what happens when Joe Voter shows up at his polling location and casts a vote? Both votes count? You understand that they're barcoded, right? And that double votes would show up in an audit? So even if some registered voters don't receive a mail-in ballot and don't go to the polls, a whole bunch of them DO, and this phenomenon would be a GLARING issue when audited.
But for some reason...that hasn't happened. So, walk us through it, since you have this figured out.
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That is nothing like I described above. Please revisit when you have a legit ?***
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Jan 29, 2024, 1:21 PM
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Heisman Winner [138296]
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That is exactly what you just described.
Jan 29, 2024, 1:23 PM
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How is a voter and a registrar each going to cast a vote under that voter's name?
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All-TigerNet [13222]
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Just get your fraudulent one in first.
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Jan 29, 2024, 2:48 PM
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When completed ballots are returned to the office, they are scanned. If another ballot was returned from that same voter, it would show as a duplicate vote when scanned and would be rejected by the system. Staff would mark the ballot as rejected. Those ballots are kept but are not sent to the warehouse to be counted or opened.
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Heisman Winner [138296]
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No.
Jan 29, 2024, 3:10 PM
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You're making this up.
https://www.cisa.gov/topics/election-security/rumor-vs-reality
Get the Facts: Election officials utilize various security measures to protect the integrity of the mail-in/absentee voting process, including those that protect against the unauthorized use of ballot request forms, in states where such forms are used, the submission of mail-in/absentee ballots by ineligible individuals, and eligible in-person voters being erroneously precluded from being able to vote due to being listed in the poll book as having received a mail-in/absentee ballot.
Mail-in/absentee ballot request forms typically require applicants to sign the form and affirm their eligibility to cast a mail-in/absentee ballot under penalty of law. Upon receipt of a mail-in/absentee ballot request form, election officials implement varying procedures to verify the identity and eligibility of the applicant prior to sending the applicant a mail-in/absentee ballot. Such procedures include checking the signature and information submitted on the form against the corresponding voter registration record, as well as ensuring that multiple mail-in/absentee ballots are not sent in response to applications using the same voter’s information.
Election officials further implement varying procedures to verify the identity and eligibility of those who submit mail-in/absentee ballots. Those who submit mail-in/absentee ballots are required to sign the mail-in/absentee ballot envelope. In some states, a notarized signature, the signature of a witness or witnesses, and/or a copy of valid identification is also required. Upon receipt of a mail-in/absentee ballot, election officials verify the signature on the mail-in/absentee ballot envelope and/or that the mail-in/absentee ballot has been otherwise properly submitted prior to retrieving the ballot from its envelope and submitting it for counting. Some states notify the voter if there is a discrepancy or missing signature, affording the voter an opportunity to correct the issue.
State policies vary on how to handle an in-person voter who is listed in the poll book as having been sent a mail-in/absentee ballot. In most states, the voter would be required to cast a provisional ballot that could be later reviewed by election officials. In others, the voter may cast a regular ballot and any corresponding mail-in/absentee ballot returned in the name of that voter would be rejected. In all such cases, instances of potential double voting or voter impersonation could be directed to appropriate authorities for investigation.
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Um, I'm sorry, but...
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Jan 29, 2024, 10:48 AM
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When is Keowee not talking out of his ###? Has he ever offered up a single sourced, fact-based argument to counter any else's points? Or engaged in any kind of meaningful discussion. He's SOLOS without the dumb jokes.
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He is a Karen, we determined this thursday
Jan 29, 2024, 10:52 AM
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He sticks his nose into and incessantly complains about things that do not affect him, and finds danger around every corner.
Keowee Karen has a ring to it, or Karen Indians, not sure which one I like better.
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They're mainly scared little snowflakes
Jan 29, 2024, 10:55 AM
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Keowee, Murph, Miura, NDEJV, Tom, etc. They're so frightened by their supposed way of life changing and their #### sources know how to stoke that fear out of em. They're just scared of the world and anything different than them.
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Did you have a bad weekend
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Jan 29, 2024, 12:53 PM
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and you need to pump up your ego?
You are as dumb as they come. No one is concerned with anything near what you keep telling yourself.
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Is this the only place where...
Jan 29, 2024, 1:46 PM
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You can get away with being a raging racist?
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^^^ Pseudo-Conservative Extraordinaire ^^^ So, so fake. No "joke".***
Jan 29, 2024, 5:33 PM
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Re: Defeating Biden in November
Jan 29, 2024, 11:02 AM
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I think Biden will beat Trump when it gets down to brass tacks, but Biden is such weak sauce, it is actually amazing that Trump could beat Biden despite all the baggage Trump is carrying.
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Biden defeated Trump once, and will do it again
Jan 29, 2024, 11:14 AM
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if Trump is the nominee.
It's very simple. It's not that so many people wanted Biden to be president. It's that so many people DIDN'T want Trump to be president. Anyone with half a brain can see that. So it stands to reason that the same people who didn't want Trump before, will continue to not want Trump, which means they'll vote for Biden. There's no path to Trump winning the general election. None at all.
If Trump is the nominee, Biden wins. Period.
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Re: Biden defeated Trump once, and will do it again
Jan 29, 2024, 1:11 PM
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I don't want either man to win. Frankly, I don't even care as they are both terrible choices and neither deserves my vote or will get it. I agree that Biden would be my bet to win, but there are a lot of people who are not happy with Biden either.
If just a small percentage of the black and Hispanic vote either votes for Trump or stays home because they too don't like either option, Trump could definitely win.
Biden's reelection is far from a done deal, but I do agree Haley would fare better against Trump.
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Exactly! And that's what makes beating Biden even more important!
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Jan 29, 2024, 3:05 PM
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Can't afford a President Harris. Not even the Dems want those two clowns back in office. They just don't have any other choices and they definitely don't want Trump!
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Leonard Cohen says
Jan 29, 2024, 11:17 AM
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Channeling/paraphrasing Leonard Cohen … First we take ManhattaNTrump, then we take Bi-Den
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