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My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
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Aug 4, 2023, 7:36 AM
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I'm sure this would never happen. I'm sure it is totally irrational and the guys who actually make the decisions would laugh at it and point out why it is stupid. But, in my mind, it is brilliant.
Problems it takes care of:
1. Concerns with TV providers over being able to sell enough advertising to pay for all the money they are shelling out to the schools.
2. Concerns over athletes having to play too many games in order for TV to be able to pay the schools.
So, here goes:
1. SEC and B1G expand to 24 teams.
2. 4 divisions in each conference.
3. 8 team playoff at end of season to determine conference champ.
4. Conference champs meet for national championship.
5. Season starts on Labor Day weekend, ends on Thanksgiving weekend.
6. Regular season is 10 games.
Problems this solves.
1. Including the playoffs, TV networks will have as many weekends as they have now to broadcast games, sell advertising, etc. (The networks aren't interested in there being 50 games every week for them to pick and choose which ones they put on TV. There will be essentially the same number of quality games every weekend as there are now. Clemson could have a bye week instead of playing
Charleston Southern, for example.)
2. Teams will have more bye weekends, thereby protecting the players from a 15 or 16 game season. (The two teams playing for the national championship will only play 13 games; everyone else 12 or less.)
3. Divisions in each conference could be done geographically, so that the non-revenue sports could primarily play teams closer to them. They have conference tournaments to determine champs, so everybody playing everybody else in the regular season is not nearly as important. (UCLA volleyball team would not have to fly across the country on Tuesday to play Rutgers. Nobody cares if they never play in the regular season. Same with Clemson vs. Oklahoma in baseball.)
4. No-revenue sports could fill out their schedules with non-conference games close to home. (Clemson could play ECU, GA Southern, WV etc. in tennis, volleyball, etc.)
There you go. That's what you get when an old geezer sits down at a keyboard and tries to solve all the pressing problems of the world in 15 minutes. I could probably do the same job with world peace if I could just get the politicians to listen to me.
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Two leagues of the top 48 or 64 teams is where this is
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Aug 4, 2023, 7:41 AM
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headed. Wish they would just go ahead and do it instead of piece mealing. Football for these 48-64 will be separated from all other sports. All other sports could still exists in existing conferences. If you’re not one of the 48-64, you either stop playing football or play at lower level with its own championship.
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Re: Two leagues of the top 48 or 64 teams is where this is
Aug 4, 2023, 7:53 AM
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In that scenario what do you do with a team of the lesser quality that suddenly becomes great because of great coaching and recruiting and develops into a powerhouse? What if Clemson was left out of this superior group and won 78 games in a row. Would they be invited to join?
I think we will eventually see two divisions of teams with the conference winners playing each other for the championship. There likely will never be a “perfect” system.
I would just like to see the Tigers play a good schedule that didn’t include Taxidermy Tech!
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Re: Two leagues of the top 48 or 64 teams is where this is
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Aug 4, 2023, 8:42 AM
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"...that didn't include Taxidermy Tech!"
Would rather it not include Texas Tech either...still really bad memories there.
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This is what I want to see happen, but
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Aug 4, 2023, 8:39 AM
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Is it already too late? The ACC is the only traditional conference that remains intact. USC and UCLA have already doomed their non-football sports to huge amounts of cross-country travel, the cost associated with it, and the loss of traditional rivalries, haven’t they?
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
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Aug 4, 2023, 7:44 AM
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With a few tweaks they might go for it. But probably not. It’s not complicated enough.
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
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Aug 4, 2023, 7:47 AM
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Makes too much sense to ever be implemented
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
Aug 4, 2023, 7:51 AM
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They are making these decisions for money. The AD gets a higher salary when the Athletic Department grows.
We will end up with 3 or 4 conferences that can command a television audience $$$.
The top teams will be grouped together $$$.
The bottom teams will be essentially relegated to the bottom.
Schools like Northwestern, Rutgers, Maryland, and Minnesota will not be in the top conference with teams like Ohio St, Michigan, and Penn St.
We might be 20 years out from the Big Ten breaking up...but rest assured Ohio St and Michigan are not going to share their money with Northwestern, Rutgers, Maryland, and Minnesota if Alabama, UGA and (hopefully) Clemson are not sharing their revenue with lesser teams.
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
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Aug 4, 2023, 8:29 AM
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I saw where Washington University was concerned about the travel costs if they join the BIG.
Instead of these crazy conferences spread all over the country why isn’t there four regions of sports.
Southeast, Northeast, Southwest and Northwest. This could work with the 12 team playoff having two teams from each region and Group of 5/wild card teams.
You rebuild the natural rivalries and cut travel costs.
Take all the money in the current TV contracts and divide by 4. Each conference gets their share.
I know this can and never will happen but it makes sense to me and cuts down on the football arms race.
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
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Aug 4, 2023, 8:31 AM
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Life - and CFB - is messy and will never really be optimized like your plan would do. It will continue to be a hodgepodge of egos profits and compromise. And when it looks like it can't get any worse our political class will jump in and screw it up even more. On a positive note CFB does start back up soon so we can forget about most of these issues. 😬
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
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Aug 4, 2023, 8:45 AM
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I like the idea, but what makes college football special is the out of conference games/unique matchups, especially during bowl season. College football is already being blown up, but I would hate to see those things fall by the wayside too.
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You could still play OOC games.
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Aug 4, 2023, 10:11 AM
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10 game schedule. 7 conference games. The other three would be SEC vs. B1G. You might even get MORE big non-conference games that way.
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
Aug 4, 2023, 8:47 AM
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Why not just roll everyone into one giant conference with multiple divisions and a playoff system. In other words, just mirror the NFL. College football has become little more that minor league pro ball anyway. Many of us will miss the old conferences and their storied rivalries, but those days are drawing to an end. It's all about the Benjamins.
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
Aug 4, 2023, 9:31 AM
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Like my good friend Biggie said, “Mo Money, Mo Problems.”
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Keep conferences like they are for non revenue
Aug 4, 2023, 9:47 AM
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sports. The non revenue sports don't need to be flying across the country.
Separate football out all together. Then tell the NCAA bye. And develop a new football governing body that has teeth.
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
Aug 4, 2023, 12:42 PM
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But where does that leave Wossamotta U ??
Add one more game, the national champ can play the worst team in the nfl. The winner plays the next year in the nfl, and the loser plays college ball. Similar to European Soccer.
As many have pointed out, we are on the brink of college = nfl minor league, and I hate it. At this rate the Ivy League will be the only teams with Student Athletes. Sigh.
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Re: My very uneducated solution to the whole problem.
Aug 4, 2023, 1:00 PM
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Set up major league college football similar to Premier League soccer, where a given number of teams, lets say 48, are in the 'Premier League' of college football and then a series of lesser leagues based on football emphasis and performance. The best performing teams are in the top league, being subject to relegation to a lesser league through poor performance or a de-emphasis on football.
The other sports keep their regional conferences. This should keep the players (who should now be considered professionals and not subject to classwork), fans and TV people happy, with only the conference and bowl game big wigs losing out on their personal wealth. We are headed in this direction anyway, so why not? I am tired of watching the devolution of college football toward its lowest common denominator (money) year after year and listening to all the talking heads and fans wring their hands and worry. Just get it over with already. The government will probably have them playing two-hand touch in a few years anyway.
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