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Jack Leggett Coverage
Jun 6, 2014, 7:42 PM
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How can two paid websites be so different in the coverage of Jack Leggett? One site The Clemson Insider led by its very biased writers will publish any article supporting JL even to the point of suppressing any dissenting opinion. It's sickening to the point that you would think McRae, Will, and Qualk are in Jacks cult. Much to their credit,Tiger Illustrated led by Chris Ard have voiced a counter opinion but presented the facts without spin. Chris did call for Jack to step down but he did not suppress the pro Leggett people. Larry Williams had done a great job covering the JL situation. Whether Drad keeps JL or gets rid of him,the ramifications will be on his head and cause a split in the fanbase.
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Re: Jack Leggett Coverage
Jun 6, 2014, 8:02 PM
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Jack Leggett must have written the TCI articles. It was sickening to read; plus no comments allowed.
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You pay for TCI?
Jun 6, 2014, 8:43 PM
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Seems to me you are just soliciting for people to join TI. Do you get a commission?
I find the diversity in Tiger sites to be just right. Orange and white, TCI, and TNet are plenty informative and just the right amount of differences.
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Re: You pay for TCI?
Jun 6, 2014, 9:31 PM
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No I am not soliticing for Ti. All the other sites are letting both sides state their cases for or against Leggett. Robert McRae is all but routing for his buddy to keep his job. Read the articles and see if you find any real opposition. Let me put WCCP in the mix. Most of the shows are in Leggetts corner. Come baseball season next year, if there is no major turnaround with JL as coach, imagine the negative view of the fans then.
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So don't go to TCI anymore
Jun 6, 2014, 10:15 PM
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Otherwise it seems like you have some personal grudge going.
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Re: So don't go to TCI anymore
Jun 6, 2014, 11:13 PM
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I guess I do have a personnel grudge. I don't like seeing the slide downward in a once proud baseball program under Leggett. The stats don't lie when it comes to the last four years. The man needs to be fired for a subpar year . I don't like seeing websites spinning the facts for their own purposes. If you have any doubts,look at Leggetts Scar record over the last few years as well as his ACC record. Add the midweek losses and you will get the picture.
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Re: So don't go to TCI anymore
Jun 7, 2014, 12:14 AM
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Guess you wanted Dabo fired after his 6-7 campaign also, with absolutely no track record as a head coach , u don't just fire a fn head coach after a couple Down years he deserves the opportunity just like Dabo to make the changes and get it right... I am not a fan of his attitude but do think nothing good would come of it for clemson to fire jack lol you ppl
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Re: So don't go to TCI anymore
Jun 7, 2014, 1:05 AM
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It's more than one bad year. Just look at the last 5 years. We are not even close to Scar in terms of a program. UNC,Virginia,Ga Tech and others have surpassed us in the ACC . Jack is barely breaking even against the ACC schools . There is no excuses for losing midweek games to Liberty,Georgia Southern, and WCU. That is grounds for termination. The high school coaches in the state hate Jack. If it wasn't for Lecroy, there would be no Southern players on the team. Drad will most likely keep Jack but watch the train wreck next year when this team is worse . I hope the fans show their disgust by not attending games or buying season tickets.
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Re: So don't go to TCI anymore
Jun 7, 2014, 1:16 AM
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If Dabo had not made changes,yes I would have fired him. At least Dabo owned up to his failures. Jack the arrogant will not own up to his failures. There is no certainty that any assistant coach will be fired either unless Drad demands it. Jack is 60 years old and I doubt he can understand this new breed of athlete.
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TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 11:00 AM
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talk. There isn't going to be any split in the fan base, because only a small minority want Leggett gone. It's just now a days sports media is sensationalistic, just like everything else in today's society, so the loudest people get heard the most even though a lot of times the loudest people's opinions are in the minority.
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Re: TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 2:30 PM
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Only a small number! How can you ignore the facts of the last 5 years? Look at Jacks record against UVA, UNC, and the top ACC teams. It's break even at best for what was once an elite program. That is unacceptable at Clemson. Look at Jacks record against Scar since 2007. Totally unacceptable ! No doubt Jack had his glory years in the 1990s and early 2000s . It's no disgrace for a coach to slip in his late years. Ask Bobby Bowden. At least he won a national title. How many more loses to Liberty and WCU are you willing to put up with? Jack said in an interview a few weeks ago that there is nothing wrong with the baseball program. The facts say otherwise. Either he is too blind to see or unwilling to change to fit the times. High school coaches hate his arrogance . Drad most likely is going to keep Jack. If no changes are made, next years team will be worse and the pressure on arrogant Jack even more so.
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Re: TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 2:48 PM
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TK79 is a Democrat they are good at ignoring facts. Hell he still thinks Obama is a good president.
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Re: TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 6:31 PM
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speaking of jokes, hahahha . the super fan who contributes nothing speaks out! stand by your computer!
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Re: TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 11:19 PM
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Thanks for your two cents lead #### lover
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Re: TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 3:33 PM
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Only a few? If Drad keeps Jack , watch all the empty seats in Doug Kingsmore next year. Are you looking at the facts or just being a Leggett cultist? Did you want Bowden fired? Look over the last 5 years at Jacks record against UVA,UNC, Ga Tech, and the top ACC programs. It's barely break even with a big margin to UVA and UNC. Do I dare mention his record against Scar over the last 5 years? They own us. His midweek losses are to southern conference opponents. These are real facts. Jack had to bring in Lecroy for recruiting because the southern high school coaches hate his arrogance. The fundamentals on this years team was horrible. That's coaching. Jack has had a great record but like all old coaches start to slip a bit. Ask FSU. Think they want Bobby Bowden or the man who led them to a BCS title?
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Re: TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 4:31 PM
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If TK79 really thinks only a minority of the fan base wants JL gone he has not talked to many people or been to many games. I have season tickets,and I supported him much longer than most of the Clemson grads in my area. I have spoken with at least two dozen Clemson fans who also happen to be Clemson grads and big baseball fans. The score is at least two dozen to zero for Jack to be gone. When it is obvious there is a major problem,you need to get to the root of the problem. The root of the problem is Jack Leggett.
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Re: TCI just isn't getting caught up in the internet tough guy..
Jun 7, 2014, 4:50 PM
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This is what I mean by both sides speaking their opinions. I may not agree with some of you, but at least you have the right to say it. Try saying something bad about Leggett on TCI and see what happens. It's way more than a small minority who want a new baseball coach. Drad will link his reputation with Jack Leggetts success or failure if he keeps him or worse give him an extension.
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The "small minority" didn't get Bobby Bowden ousted.
Jun 7, 2014, 4:51 PM
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This situation is similar. Appreciate everything Jack's done, but to keep him here just wreaks of the Tommy Bowden days leading to his dismissal. We're prolonging the inevitable. I hate it, but it is what it is.
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Re: Jack Leggett Coverage
Jun 7, 2014, 2:45 PM
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You are not allowed to post on The Clemons Insider unless you think everything is rainbows and butterflies....
it is kind of creepy.
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Re: Jack Leggett Coverage
Jun 7, 2014, 9:08 PM
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Think you might want to read the Orange and White and see who does know their stuff.
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