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With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Gridiron Giant [15672]
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With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 9:37 AM
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Why? Could it say more about the democrat party than many of us care to realize?
Black vote more than doubled for Trump from 2016 to 2024. (6% to 15%)
The Hispanic vote increased from 36% in 2020 to 48% in 2024.
46% of women voted for Trump in 2024 vs 44% in 2020.
I’m wanting opinions why America chose a deeply flawed person. But, let’s not go race since it’s clear he picked up minority voters from 2016 and 2020.
I’ll hang up and listen.
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The economy
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Sep 15, 2025, 9:47 AM
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The average person doesn’t have the capacity to understand the economy. They saw high prices and blamed Biden.
It’s the same reason Republicans will get dismantled this upcoming election.
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Valley Legend [12425]
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yessir. A bad economy (perceived or otherwise) is a hard thing to overcome.
Sep 15, 2025, 10:07 AM
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That may also be why so many Dems sat out the 2024 election.
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CU Medallion [19044]
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As with all things progressive; the Dems go too far.
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Sep 15, 2025, 9:48 AM
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-It's not enough to just have abortion, it needs to be legal up to the 3rd birthday.
-There is no limit on worldwide welfare, no matter how broke we are.
-Not enough to have SNAP and Medicaid, but abled bodied men in their 20's should get it.
-Not only to you have to bow before trannys, you have to let them mentor your children.
-Not only should you accept a weak border, but you have to cheer on a completely absent one.
-The only way to make America great is to make it communist or socialist; no other options.
-You have to support books about bttfkn in Kindergarten libraries or you are a "book burning" evangelical.
I never thought for a second that Fetterman would be the "normal" democrat.
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Valley Legend [12425]
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I agree with much of that. The Dems leaned in too heavily on many issues.***
Sep 15, 2025, 10:00 AM
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TigerNet Icon [160485]
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You agree with many of those things that he 100% made up?
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:37 AM
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For real, point to just ONE of his listed bullets that is actually true. So what do you agree with?
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Valley Legend [12425]
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Minus the obvious exaggerations. I did think it was odd that folks would go to
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:55 AM
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the mats to have age-inappropriate stuff in school libraries - and then scream "book burners!"
He's right about the border.
I have no problem with men dressed up as women reading books to kids - as long as their parents are ok with it. But I wouldn't defend to the death their right to do it. Just seemed like an odd hill to die on.
The point was the Dems took left-leaning positions and then leaned too far.
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Gridiron Giant [15672]
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Re: As with all things progressive; the Dems go too far.
Sep 15, 2025, 10:28 AM
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I remember when people on this very board claimed dems would win 2024 based solely on the fact that roe vs wade was over turned.,
What happened to that argument?
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Valley Legend [12425]
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I definitely believed that. I was sure Harris would win, mostly because the Pubs
Sep 15, 2025, 10:59 AM
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wouldn't be able to overcome the abortion issue (it seemed to be the driving force in the 2022 mid-terms).
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Rival Killer [2867]
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Ill preface this with the fact that I dont know for sure.
Sep 15, 2025, 5:22 PM
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But my guess would be that after Roe was overturned, a lot of states passed their own acceptable legislation, without realizing there are other ways this administration hopes to ban abortions nationwide (banning access to abortion pills). I think it was a lot of, “well my state protected abortions, we are good” mindset. That and time. People have the memory of a goldfish, and all the abortion stuff happened well before the election.
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Valley Legend [12425]
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It was certainly an indictment on what The Dems brought to the table. Trump
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Sep 15, 2025, 9:51 AM
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should have been easily defeated in the election.
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 9:57 AM
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The saviors of democracy tried to remove the opposition party candidate from the ballot in multiple states and then appointed their candidate without a primary.
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Tiger Spirit [9595]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
Sep 15, 2025, 10:12 AM
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I think its those 34 felonies, that any normal person could easily see were fabricated to "get" Trump, that made him more relatable and even a bit of a sympathetic (believe it or not) figure to people that had never voted for him before. Nobody of any political persuasion should be cheerleading the legal gymnastics required to get those glorious convictions the left felt certain would finally destroy Trump forever, yet one political party embraced them unapologetically. And when that didn't work they tried throwing him off ballots, etc which only strengthened his appeal to those same people.
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Orange Immortal [67933]
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If dems want to win, they have to understand how and why so many
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:27 AM
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people believe all of that, then respond appropriately. Instead, so far they've ridiculed and ignored that half of the country.
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Gridiron Giant [15672]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
Sep 15, 2025, 10:05 PM
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Is there anything that clown does that magats will not say is a hoax or false? Theres NO way he did anything illegal. There’s NO way he lost in 2020. He’s just a good honest man but everyone is just “out” to get him. Have you ever considered that he’s just a creep? 🙄
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Ultimate Tiger [36428]
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The national Democratic Party is utterly dysfunctional.
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:16 AM
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They propped up Sleepy Joe for no reason instead of letting in competition, and then they selected Kamala to replace him without any vote by their constituency. The Democratic leadership has become elitist and distant, which has turned off independents as well as some in their own party.
With that sort of dysfunction, even a criminal grifter can beat them.
Typos were corrected by: spooneye®
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Gridiron Giant [15672]
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Re: The national Democratic Party is utterly dysfunctional.
Sep 15, 2025, 10:24 AM
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I think your response is closer to the truth than any other response.
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Valley Legend [12425]
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I think they propped up Joe because they were scared he was the only one who
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:44 AM
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could beat Trump - just as they believed in 2020. I don't think the Dems were right, but I do think that's why they propped him up.
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Game Day Hero [4149]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
Sep 15, 2025, 10:22 AM
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Trump could only win against a woman candidate.
He lost to a man that was removed for being incompetent which is hilarious if you think about it.
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:27 AM
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He would have beaten Tim Walz in a landslide as well. It comes down to the type.of.candidate the Dems pushed.
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Gridiron Giant [15672]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:30 AM
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This^^ you and I are two of the only left leaning posters on this site that have argued this point over and over.
Most people are center-right so many don’t get it. Or refuse to get it.
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Top TigerNet [30994]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 11:47 AM
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Some of them, even on this site, think the Dems are losing because they aren't extreme enough and that they have to get more extreme. They are so lost.
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Gridiron Giant [15672]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 3:52 PM
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Yep.
They forget that the voting blocs they need are black and Hispanic, both of which are usually more conservative than many white liberals. Lose them and the Democratic Party is no more.
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Orange Immortal [67933]
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It's two things.
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:24 AM
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Yes, Dems haven't had anything compelling to offer, and are totally out of step with 1/2 of the country. That's a big part of it.
Then, Trump has successfully tapped into and exploited the very natural fear and angst felt by that half of the country.
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:25 AM
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They forced Kamala on people and that in itself was enough to lose the election. Theybalso played identity politics and tried to scare people with ludicrous end of Democracy as we know it bs. They brought absolutely nothing to the.table anf they didn't speak to America as a whole.
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1st Rounder [631]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 3:40 PM
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"The ludicrous end of democracy as we know it?"
Do you really not recognize that we are currently living in a de facto dictatorship where one man is making ALL the decisions?
What lesser politicians must adhere to if they don't want to doxxed and driven out of the party. Senators and Representatives have said they fear for their safety if they disagree with the President.
What is permissible to be taught in schools and universities.
What media companies can broadcast, if they don't want to be sued.
Who the Justice Department prosecutes.
Who law companies can represent without being punished by the government.
Who it's okay to mourn or ridicule.
What constitutes antisemitism.
The list goes on and on.
This is your idea of democracy?
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 3:43 PM
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We arent in a dictatorship and there are elections coming up...midterm and also in 3 years. You are paranoid.
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1st Rounder [631]
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 4:55 PM
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One man decides foreign policy
One man decides tariff policy.
One man makes executive decisions on whatever catches his fancy every day because, you know, it's an emergency. But that's not a dictatorship and it's okay because there will be elections next year and in '28. and the Republican winnowing of eligible voters and the troops patrolling polling places won't have any effect.
I sure hope you're right.
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Re: With all of his flaws, his 34 felonys, people still chose him?
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Sep 15, 2025, 4:59 PM
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That is due to his part allowing it. We still will.be able.to vote for change which starts with the midterms. Then again 2028. Democracy
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The dems lied to us about the competency of Biden and stalled long enough
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:34 AM
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That the only option for their nominee was Harris; who was complicit in the cover up. Had there been an actual dem primary without Biden things may have been different.
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Re: The dems lied to us about the competency of Biden and stalled long enough
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:46 AM
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The Dems kept Trump in the news for 4 years.
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Re: The dems lied to us about the competency of Biden and stalled long enough
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This too.
It was free advertising. I said way back in 2020, let the dude ride off into the sunset.
And I still believe had dems left him alone, another republican would have come along.
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Re: The dems lied to us about the competency of Biden and stalled long enough
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In about 2021 I was watching a news story with my wife about the Dems going after Trump. I can't even remember which one it was. I looked her and said they're going to get this man elected President again.
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Solid Orange [1343]
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Re: The dems lied to us about the competency of Biden and stalled long enough
Sep 16, 2025, 8:01 PM
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The thing that sealed it was when a jury decided he was a sexual abuser (or a rapist to the average person, per the judge). Turns out America likes rapists.
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Because Biden/Kamala...
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:51 AM
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was the absolute worst, most dishonest, and corrupt administration in US history, and their countless failed policies, weaponizing the judicial system against political adversaries, and allowing millions of undocumented illegal immigrants to flood across the border, with the full support of congressional democrats and their pals in the mainstream liberal media, nearly ruined the country, and American voters were clearly sick of it!
Do I agree with everything Trump says or does? Absolutely not, but he has accomplished more for this country in the last eight months than Biden or Kamala have in their entire political careers.
Just my .02 cents.
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Inflation....
Sep 15, 2025, 11:04 AM
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The election turned on inflation.
Never mind that it was a supply-shock from the pandemic that drove it - not Biden's policies - on a worldwide basis. Also, never mind that the US weathered the shock and inflation came down to just slightly above the Fed's target during 2024, while at the same time have a very strong jobs recovery & performance after the pandemic.
Also, the broader public had memory-holed January 6 and Trump's disastrous performance during the pandemic. Trump didn't pay a price for that in 2024.
I think in 2026, the Dems will likely re-take the House, as part of the usual backlash against the incumbent party. It will be tougher to re-take the Senate. But MAGA's performance currently is helping the Dems in the Senate, too.
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Solid Orange [1343]
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Re: Inflation....
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Well if that's it, and you very well may be correct, just wait until the goofy tariffs kick in. If TACO doesn't cancel them.
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110%er [3796]
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They will try to change the subject....
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Sep 15, 2025, 12:59 PM
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But there will be nowhere to run or hide from the tariff-induced inflation or the collapse of job growth in the country.
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