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In dabo's book of punishments.......
Sep 24, 2013, 1:24 PM
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what's the difference between Bryant's throat slash and Tajh's "money sign"?? Can bryant perform a wrist slash and be fine??
serious question
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Orange Blooded [2394]
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Maybe someone will act like they are taking a dump
Sep 24, 2013, 1:26 PM
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I wonder if that is legal. I haven't seen it done before. A trailblazer is out there.
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Re: In dabo's book of punishments.......
Sep 24, 2013, 1:27 PM
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throat slash will normally get a penalty in the game.
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the league frowns upon the throat slash which is considered
Sep 24, 2013, 1:27 PM
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a taunt directed at a player, not a celebration.
i'm guessing the opposite for the money sign.
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Re: In dabo's book of punishments.......
Sep 24, 2013, 1:27 PM
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The throat slash is something the NCAA has ruled unacceptable and normally it would be flagged. It is equivalent to the difference in celebrating and taunting.
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Orange Blooded [4970]
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No flag because it wasn't directed at.a player***
Sep 24, 2013, 1:35 PM
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Re: In dabo's book of punishments.......
Sep 24, 2013, 2:40 PM
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The ones who think Dabo should have not issued some kind of punishment just because it wasn't caught should go pull for Spurless and the limpcocks. Remember a "Clemson Gentleman needs no introduction". This is on or off the field.
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It's very simple
Sep 24, 2013, 1:27 PM
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money sign = legal and no penalty
throat slash = illegal and 15 yard penalty
I'm not sure where all the confusion is coming from.
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I must've missed the flag being thrown on bryant***
Sep 24, 2013, 1:31 PM
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It was missed by the refs but it is still a penalty***
Sep 24, 2013, 1:33 PM
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Orange Blooded [2394]
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Maybe it was missed because it wasn't a true blue throat
Sep 24, 2013, 1:35 PM
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slash, but a shoulder slash. I didn't see a throat slash. I saw Bryant trying to be crafty and inventive.
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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I saw a throat slash and thought he was dumb to do it***
Sep 24, 2013, 1:37 PM
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Orange Blooded [2394]
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I'm still going with collarbone slash.***
Sep 24, 2013, 1:39 PM
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so you miss playing time for a personal foul or throat slash
Sep 24, 2013, 1:37 PM
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are our guys going to miss playing time when there's a late hit out of bounds penalty?
chop block???
etc...
is this just a throat slash penalty or the fact that it's a "personal foul" penalty?
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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Dabo is making a statment to Bryant
Sep 24, 2013, 1:38 PM
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how he does that is up to him.
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Orange Blooded [4970]
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Yeah well his statement is unfair.***
Sep 24, 2013, 1:41 PM
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Re: so you miss playing time for a personal foul or throat slash
Sep 24, 2013, 2:05 PM
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The throat slash is considered a taunt but beyond that, it's classless thugery. Hitting someone out of bounds in generally a judgement call. If a guy did it purposely to try and hurt someone my guess is he'd be suspended. There is a difference and it's pretty easy to see.
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Orange Blooded [4970]
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Thuggery... Did Bryant rob a bank or shot somebody?***
Sep 24, 2013, 2:11 PM
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No, he didn't.....neither did he rape, assault, or stab
Sep 24, 2013, 2:32 PM
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anyone. But that particular gesture is against the rules and had he been spotted by an official, he'd have garnered a penalty that would have affected the ENTIRE TEAM.
Much more importantly, I expect Martavis and every Clemson student-athlete to represent OUR university on and off the field in an upstanding manner---one that befits the institution and the thousands of alumni who've gone before. Coach Swinney agrees with the vast majority of Clemson fans that Martavis has earned some type of penalty because of his behavior---whether it was flagged by the officials or not. I don't think Bryant's actions warrant a serious suspension (such as Isaiah Battle's deserve), but he does need to pay a price for his poor behavior and be reminded of who he is and who he represents. Hopefully, after he scores many more TD's the rest of the season, Martavis will simply toss the ball to the closest official and head for the sidelines to celebrate with his teammates and all the fans.
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Orange Blooded [4970]
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Thank you for your endless rambling but...
Sep 24, 2013, 4:59 PM
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I was responding to the use of the word "Thuggery" when describing Bryant's actions. It is my belief that the word has been misused in this instance, and therefore I expressed my opinion regarding the matter.
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No, that's not what I got from the post at all.
Sep 24, 2013, 1:38 PM
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My impression was that Dabo is requiring our guys to follow the rules for the sake of being the best team Clemson can be. Getting 15 yards tacked onto a play against us is contrary to that position.
Another noteworthy impression is that coaches and player don't make the rules, they either follow them or pay the penalty.
Actually, that's the only correct position to take from any perspective of this subject.
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no i know it's against the ncaa rules my question is........
Sep 24, 2013, 1:41 PM
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is it b/c it was a "throat slash"
or b/c it was/shoulda been a "personal foul"?????
I'm mean a late hit out of bounds can be perceived as classless and can be missed by the refs..........are our players going to sit out after the coaches go back and review penalties/shoulda been penalties every game????
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difference between personal foul and unsportsmanlike
Sep 24, 2013, 1:48 PM
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A personal foul such as a late hit is 15 yards.
An unsportsmanlike penalty such as taunting has the same number of yards but if a single player receives 2 unsportsmanlike penalties he is ejected from the game. This makes it a more serious offense and one that the coaches can't take lightly.
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so the "money" sign isn't considered taunting?
Sep 24, 2013, 1:55 PM
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guess that's more of a testament to how messed up and confused the NCAA is
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I'm not saying the NCAA has it right
Sep 24, 2013, 1:57 PM
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I'm just saying Dabo is trying to reinforce his players to know what the NCAA lays out for them.
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no and i'm not saying dabo is wrong in his thinking, but....
Sep 24, 2013, 2:02 PM
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the punishment doesn't fit the "crime"
tripling his running at practice woulda been just as/more effective than missing playing time
and like i said in an earlier post people on here would be singing a much different tune if we were playing FSU this weekend.
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You don't know the punishment
Sep 24, 2013, 2:05 PM
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Dabo said less playing time. He didn't say a series, quarter, or a half. Maybe he will just not get the "start".
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Re: so the "money" sign isn't considered taunting?
Sep 24, 2013, 3:33 PM
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Since Johnny Heisman probably started the money-sign gesture, it's probably okay with the NCAA and is not considered taunting, since only the opponents would consider it to be taunting. I get it now. The NCAA is still stupid.
Ask yourself - would either the throat slash or money gesture tick you off, or BOTH?
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it's way too big a deal now! didn't get caught, did get pun-
Sep 24, 2013, 1:31 PM
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ished...maybe too much, maybe too little. lets move on here
it's illegal & the team will remember that now...geez
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Excellent observation....
Sep 24, 2013, 1:33 PM
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and my opinion precisely. How much clearer does it need to be??
Incidentally, a coot CB/LB was observed doing the same thing during their game against unc and received no penalty nor served any team punishment.
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And you don't think that's stupid?
Sep 24, 2013, 2:13 PM
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Where is the book of illegal sign? I want to see where it says you can do money signs.
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Saluting the crowd on military appreciation day...
Sep 24, 2013, 2:39 PM
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15 yard penalty.
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Careful, some people get angry when you make them think.***
Sep 24, 2013, 3:02 PM
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maybe a rubber knife and some fake blood would help***
Sep 24, 2013, 1:39 PM
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NCAA loves money. They hate guns, and knives, and
Sep 24, 2013, 1:47 PM
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toenail scissors.
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But, it needs to be said,
Sep 24, 2013, 1:51 PM
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no Lot 1 footballs were harmed by Bryant's slash gesture.
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Irony or conspiracy?
Sep 24, 2013, 1:58 PM
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Lot 1 football slashed and Bryant is #1 being disciplined for slashing.
Does anyone see the connection here?
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Re: In dabo's book of punishments.......***
Sep 24, 2013, 3:54 PM
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