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Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 2:44 PM
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It's almost like Brent called him and said, "Hey, Paul, say something about our defense. I need something to give them a kick in the butt."
And, Paul said, "Sure. How's this?"
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"I think Clemson is (ranked) too high," Finebaum said during recent appearance on ESPN's Keyshawn, JWill and Zubin. "I'm not buying Clemson this year. I think they'll lose to Georgia in the first game, and then they really have nowhere to go, because they play a rather pedestrian ACC schedule ... I didn't like the way Clemson finished last season. I thought their defense was very vulnerable, and I don't think the quarterback swap is going to be that big of a deal because they have really great wide receivers. D.J. (Uiagalelei) is not Trevor Lawrence, but he's still really good. But to me, the defense has trailed off ever so slightly the last two years, and I think that's the issue."
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 2:45 PM
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Sorry. I haven't been on the board in a couple of days. I scanned the threads and missed the TNET post already covering this. (I'm old. Can I use that for an excuse?)
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 3:59 PM
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Sure Bret, no prob
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He's right though, our D has trailed off the last two years***
Aug 12, 2021, 2:47 PM
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Re: He's right though, our D has trailed off the last two years***
Aug 12, 2021, 2:55 PM
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Yeah, that can tend to happen when you lose your entire D-Line to the NFL Draft, 3 of which were first round. Finebum picked the exact wrong time to talk about declining defense. I firmly believe this and next year are going to be anything but declining.
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Re: He's right though, our D has trailed off the last two years***
Aug 12, 2021, 2:57 PM
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It also tends to happen when guys like Jake Venables start over more talented players like Vonta Bentley.
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Re: He's right though, our D has trailed off the last two years***
Aug 12, 2021, 3:14 PM
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Agree!
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Love you recliner heros that know more than the highest paid
Aug 12, 2021, 6:19 PM
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assistant in all of college football that is with these guys every day.
Do idjits NEVER learn ? ? ? ?
EVER ? ? ? ? ?
Wow. Blows me away.
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Re: He's right though, our D has trailed off the last two years***
Aug 12, 2021, 4:23 PM
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Not sure they were on top in 16 or 18. Even the best teams don’t dominate every single year. Near or around the top would be a better descriptor, and that Clemson’s D has been under Venables.
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 3:00 PM
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I would think the 49 points, 639 yards, and 254 rushing yards allowed would be enough of a "kick in the butt" to get motivated. A competitor shouldn't really need outside motivation after a drubbing like that.
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 4:31 PM
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You are right and I know the coaches and players are still painfully aware of how they were outplayed and out coached. Now having said that, could you give us Tiger fans some perspective on what kind of motivation a 41 year NC drought might produce in a future competitor? TIA
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 10:02 PM
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None.
The guys that will be on the field don't give a #### about was has or hasn't happened over the last four decades.
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 13, 2021, 1:25 AM
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So the Georgia players meander forward with no sense of history or goals. That explains a lot. Thanks.
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 13, 2021, 8:00 AM
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Only fans have the luxury of living in the past. Players are too busy focusing on the now and bettering themselves for the future to concern themselves with trivia.
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 9:01 PM
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Would you prefer to lose to USC by a field goal? Drubbing from a good team. Yep, that sucks. Nothing like how that loss felt to UGA fans doh…
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 9:55 PM
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Not to mention being in position to earn a natty but squandering a 4th Qtr 10 point lead.
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This is what I mean. Look at that level of analysis and
Aug 12, 2021, 3:16 PM
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tell me how it is more insightful than a random Georgia fan a few beverages into the night who sees the Tiger Paw on your hat at the bar?
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Same thing Venables said!
Aug 12, 2021, 3:31 PM
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It's funny because it's the same thing we and our own coaches have said, basically.
But when it comes from Finebaum for some reason we all hear it & respond with fury. I'm not saying I expect us not to, but I'll never understand why so many of us give him so much energy at all. Not even a little bit.
Beat UGA, jump to #1, control your own destiny, it's that simple.
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Mark it down right now...
Aug 12, 2021, 3:38 PM
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beating UGa will not vault Clemson to No. 1.
The narrative will suddenly become UGa is obviously not as good as advertised and Bama is still No. 1 and should stay at No. 1 unless and until someone beats them.
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Re: Mark it down right now...
Aug 12, 2021, 3:45 PM
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I'll gladly take that bet! Could be something fun, like a 6-pack or something.
I think instead Miami gets devalued, and Alabama looks pedestrian as they often do in week 1. I'm DEFINITELY taking the under in the Alabama/Miami game.
Meanwhile, we'll beat the #5 team in the country, and we're already ranked #2. Vastly more eyes will be on the Clemson/Georgia game, too, plus it's a night game (i.e., short-memory advantage).
I don't think we STAY at #1, but I can't imagine enough people voting to keep Alabama at #1 after a sluggish win against Miami than Clemson in an exciting game against a highly-ranked UGA team.
I'm not insisting it's true, either, just to be prepared for it. FWIW, I also don't think Alabama remains undefeated through two consecutive seasons, so that won't hurt Clemson's ranking, either.
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I think Bama is going to boat race Miami***
Aug 12, 2021, 3:51 PM
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It will be over before the 2nd quarter***
Aug 12, 2021, 4:12 PM
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Same, but
Aug 12, 2021, 6:10 PM
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I don't think they beat the spread. They never seem to in their opener, & it wasn't just 2 years ago they didn't exactly embarrass Duke in the season opener, for example.
That doesn't mean they don't whoop Miami, though. I absolutely agree with you there.
I don't think that game is competitive enough regardless to keep Alabama at #1, that's all. I sincerely believe beating #5 Georgia or #2 Clemson makes a bigger impact.
Alabama will keep some first-place votes, but not enough.
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Bama always receives preferential treatment in the polls...
Aug 13, 2021, 10:49 AM
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and they are not going to get voted out of the No. 1 spot unless they lose IMO.
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Maybe, but
Aug 13, 2021, 10:59 AM
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I don't really have a problem with any defending champ being ranked #1 (especially now that the polls literally don't matter anymore), but what's different here is there hasn't been a #2 vs #5 matchup in week one in the Alabama dynasty years, either.
I still agree they'll keep some first place votes, absolutely, but all I'm saying is be prepared for Clemson to jump to #1 for a few weeks when we beat UGA (& enjoy it!)
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Re: Mark it down right now...
Aug 13, 2021, 11:39 AM
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I agree. I think Clemson would need to win by 5 touchdowns in order to get any serious consideration as #1.
IMO the game will be tight. Over the last 7 or so years, we have not played our best ball early, it’s always been more like week 6 or so. Before Dabo, one of the problems always seemed to be that we didn’t improve during the season. Mistakes you saw in week one you’d still see in week 11. Nowadays, we get rolling like a train, but the early going is not when we’re best. I’m hoping we can open like world beaters, but I’m expecting a war that could go either way.
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No one with any knowledge of college football agrees with
Aug 12, 2021, 3:58 PM
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anything Finebaum has to say. He is without a doubt the biggest joke to college football. Plus, he still hasn't gotten over the whipping Clemson gave his beloved Bama team 44-16 in the 2019 CFP.
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I'm not sure who was closer to tears...
Aug 12, 2021, 4:05 PM
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Finebaum after the beatdown Clemson put-on Bama in Santa Clara or the libs at NBC on the 2016 election night when it became clear that Trump beat Billary.
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CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, and the networks
Aug 13, 2021, 12:21 PM
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All had people in tears that night!
Notice they didn’t even panic the slightest even at midnight when Trump was well ahead with the in person voting last fall.
They knew the fraud with the mail in ballots was going to give the election to sleepy Joe!
They knew their four years of insane propaganda, lies, literally a coup (per Matt Taibi and Glenn Greenwald) and election interference would doom Trump.
Despite all of the interference from the left had it not been for Covid Trump still would have won. I’m not typically a conspiracy terrorist but if there was ever a motivation for China to accidentally have a virus get out last year‘s election was. Now we are back to the status quo which is the elites in America in bed with the Chinese. And more senseless wars so politicians and corporatists can keep the cash machine rolling!
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Re: Same thing Venables said!
Aug 12, 2021, 9:04 PM
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Nobody truly gives a chit. Just something to wrap about.
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 3:45 PM
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Lol, Venables could snap Finebaum like a twig, I am being serious.
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Doesn't mean he wasn't right though***
Aug 12, 2021, 3:57 PM
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 4:09 PM
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Not sure what bulletin board material means other than use on a message board. Players will not play better or worse based on the words of a media idiot
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Finebutt Has Clemson Snakes....
Aug 12, 2021, 6:06 PM
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in his head .
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Re: Finebaum gives Venables bulletin board material.
Aug 12, 2021, 9:13 PM
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It’s all good Brett.
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Rule #1 of tnet. Never scan the topics before you post
Aug 13, 2021, 6:50 AM
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You’re doing great Bret
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You should see the comments on YouTube videos
Aug 13, 2021, 12:25 PM
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From ESPN and 24/7 and other sports sites. It’s crazy!
SEC and Ohio State fans actually believe Clemson steals signs and that Venables is a fraud and sucks when he can’t cheat.
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