I'm no religious scholar. It just seems disingenuous to judge the teachings

NYC, a leftist city, just voted in a Muslim

TigerDrumMajor · 2025-11-05T02:56:15.089Z

😂😂. If they think Trump is a conservative, I can’t wait until they read the Quran. Islam makes the far right looks like leftists. ####### retards😂😂

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I will just add my thoughts, as I say above...

Nov 5, 2025, 2:29 PM

I don't know that Christian views on women should be determined based on the writings of the Old Testament. So I disregard the first 2/3rds of that list...

Soooo...

"They were childless because Elizabeth was not able to conceive"
Luke 1:7, Bible (NIV)

Right off the bat, I'm concerned here. This is not the "The Bible hates women" passage you should be starting with (NT). This is the argument of your significant other trying to win an argument.

"When the [40] days of her [Mary's] purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him [Jesus] to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord)"

Luke 2:22-23, Bible (KJV)

Sigh. What...what are we doing here?

"The head of the woman is man... He is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man... A woman ought to have authority over her own head"

...I mean...

"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak... If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."

1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Bible (NIV)

Okay, this is the first one that is interesting within the context of the debate. In researching this, I found that there's even some debate as to whether or not it was written by Paul...some think it was a note added by a later scribe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Epistle_to_the_Corinthians

No idea...just found it interesting. But sure, I guess. The Bible hates women. This is found in a letter on how to deal with people talking in tongues at church, bee tee dubs.

"Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church... As the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
Ephesians 5:22-24, Bible (NIV); similar: Colossians 3:18
"This is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord."

1 Peter 3:5-6, Bible (NIV)

Yeah, I think there's a lot of versus where the woman should recognize the husband as the leader of the family. If you think that structure means that Christianity teaches misogyny, I would have to concede.

"As for younger widows... when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to... Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan."

1 Timothy 5:11-15, Bible (NIV)

Wh...what?

"Ordain elders in every city... If any be blameless, the husband of one wife..."

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to order my wife to bring me some aspirin.

"Wives... submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives"

1 Peter 3:1, Bible (NIV)

"Teach the young women to be... obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed."

Titus 2:4-5, Bible (KJV)"

Yep. I think there's a lot of biblical references to the man being in charge.

"I looked, and there before me was the Lamb [Jesus]... and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads... And they sang a new song... No one could learn the song except the 144,000... These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins."

Revelation 14:1-4, Bible (NIV)

I don't know what in the world this person is doing who put this list together. It reads like "Hey...if I just keep posting quotes and then telling you how it means the Bible thinks women suck, eventually you'll just believe me." As I said, I'm no Biblical scholar and really not a very good Christian, but in good faith I took a look at this list. I would say (and would be happy to be corrected) that the Christian Bible is not an inherently misogynist book given that it was written by men 2,000 years ago, beyond what I see as a consistent call for wives to obey their husbands.

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The Vice-Verses list isn’t claiming “the Bible hates women.” It’s documenting how scripture has been used historically to justify subordination, exclusion, and inequality. You don’t erase that by saying “context.” Context is the issue: those passages reflect patriarchal societies where women were treated as property, barred from leadership, and expected to submit to men.

Paul’s letters in particular shaped Western gender norms for centuries. When he says “women should remain silent in church” or “wives, submit to your husbands,” those aren’t just local advisories. They became doctrine that silenced women in pulpits and politics for 2,000 years. You can’t pretend that didn’t happen.

And the “New Covenant” argument doesn’t magically erase misogyny. The New Testament was written entirely by men, in cultures where women had few rights. Jesus himself was radically inclusive toward women, but the institutional church that followed him wasn’t. That’s why these verses matter: they reveal the contradictions between his example and how the church codified control.

So yes, Islam has problems with women’s rights in some modern states, but Christianity’s record isn’t spotless either. Using the Bible to claim the West has moral superiority on gender is historically blind.

NYC, a leftist city, just voted in a Muslim

Loser***

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You're ignorant as fk and a bigot.

The red light district proposed by AOC is intriguing, though.***

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Normal people hate Muslim and Christian extremists alike.

Re: Normal people hate Muslim and Christian extremists alike.

You missed a word

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I have read it.

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It. Doesn't. Matter.

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So then do you have a problem with ANYONE religious being elected?

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You mean the guy who admitted he's a white nationalist?***

Do you ascribe to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

Re: Do you ascribe to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

Then the same absolutely, hands-down applies to your holy book of choice,

Christians have used the Bible to justify slavery and killing gays.***

Re: Do you ascribe to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

Man what a bigot you've outed yourself as.

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"It literally calls for killing adulterers and enslaving people."

Mostly old.

But it has to be judged on that...

Youre exactly right that the New Testament represents the

Yea, I missed the part where he wants women to lose rights

And here are some verses for you...

I will just add my thoughts, as I say above...

You're misunderstanding what those verses represent.

I don't disagree with any of that.***

That can't be disregarded

Okay, that's all fine. I didn't read "Major's" post (or maybe I did and it

I'm not sure Major was very highly educated

See, here's the thing

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OK, feel free to insult

I honestly had not heard of this.

Re: NYC, a leftist city, just voted in a Muslim

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I knew the butt hurt would be high on here today

NGL, this is pretty hilarious.

I'm sure in 2002 if you told anyone in NYC they would elect a Muslim as mayor

If dude sets up a Sharia court in Gracie Mansion then gets Congress

Fear not, just like his Christian counterparts, he almost certainly wont

Honestly, ####. Trump skirts the law at every opportunity

A good question to ask Major

Cut the carp you're a white nationalist you dont care what religion he practices

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