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On the filibuster...
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On the filibuster...


Apr 20, 2021, 1:03 PM

I know this post is neither insightful or novel, but why is it we can't just restore the filibuster to it's original form when one Senator had to actually stand up and talk for as long as they could manage to do so without getting hungry or needing to take a crap? Wouldn't that go a long way towards making it so that every single bill doesn't need 60 votes to pass but the minority party still has some power to hold a bill up?

Not sure we should get rid of it and I'm not sure we should keep it so someone just has to say the word filibuster and you need 60 votes.

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Apr 20, 2021, 1:06 PM

The way it's currently set up, for the Senate to actually pass anything, you actually need 60 votes, not a majority. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but I don't get why it needs to be called a "filibuster". Just say that the threshhold for passing a law in the Senate is 60 votes.

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Apr 20, 2021, 1:09 PM

of the filibuster, but I Will say that it seems odd that the greatest democracy in history would have a tool in one of its legislative chambers to prevent law based on the stamina of one of those members.

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It's about not having to vote, and decreased accountability


Apr 20, 2021, 1:29 PM

come reelection. It shields contentious votes from passing one way or the other, minimizing political liability and potential fallout.

Nope. Both parties, no matter who is in charge, relish the 60-vote requirement because that puts MANY bills out of reach, so no one gets blamed for anything if they pass. Supporters who are thwarted can claim they were robbed. Opponents claim victory for having the 60 votes. Or vice versa. Whole point is to decrease close and contentious votes as to inflict minimal political damage and an easier reelection campaign.

Filibusters used to mean something, like bowl games in college football. Not anymore.

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Apr 20, 2021, 1:39 PM



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At this point we should just abolish the Senate.


Apr 20, 2021, 4:20 PM

The 17th Amendment made the character of the senate too similar to the House of Representatives, which has been especially apparent in recent years. The whole "cooling saucer" argument just doesn't fly anymore and it's no longer a stately, august body. I don't really see what purpose the Senate serves at this point besides tradition and as an obstacle to passing legislation.

Your proposal's a bit easier to accomplish than mine.

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