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All-In [40353]
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can i ask a prod style question?
May 8, 2019, 2:47 PM
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this quote: "House Judiciary Democrats have subpoenaed the full unredacted report, as well as the underlying evidence Mueller used to come to his conclusions."
The second part is essentially asking to do another investigation is it not? Didn't it take 2 yrs and Millions to come to this conclusion based on this evidence? Is a house committee really going to read all of that? And then, find something the Mueller team missed over the years?
fast and furious, Benghazi, emails, collusion, obstruction... honestly as a voter i am getting tired of so much investigating the investigators and bickering. They are all liars and crooks and we sadly just have to deal with it.
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Seems a little more like a statement.
May 8, 2019, 3:00 PM
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But one with which I can mostly agree. I do believe in thorough investigation of government wrongdoing, but if someone is cleared, move on. For the Mueller report, I support a bipartisan reading of select members of Congress of the unredacted report and then a conclusion drawn from there with strict guidelines regarding national security and privacy of innocent people.
But the last part you mention is what I agree with the most: for the most part, they are all liars and crooks, and the more we embrace them, the more we will have this. Trump is one of the biggest offenders in the liars and crooks department, and those who support him enable this behavior just like the ones who enabled the likes of the Clintons.
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yes it's a statement
May 8, 2019, 3:04 PM
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but what are they going to do with the evidence? read and re-read hoping to find something.
my cousin jokingly said that trump should pardon all of the top level people, Clintons, himself, et al and just tell everyone to move forward with a clean slate and stop dwelling on the past.
obviously wouldn't happen, but kinda funny all the same
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Oculus Spirit [93690]
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I believe the committee is qualified to view the...
May 8, 2019, 3:07 PM
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much less redacted version but they are limited to remaining silent about the parts which remain redacted by law.
So no. This is not about truth it's about politics. I know that doesn't surprise you for you seem as doubtful of the honestly of our politicians as any one of us.
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Oculus Spirit [93690]
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I don't believe the dems have any intent to pursue truth.
May 8, 2019, 3:03 PM
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I think they want a political cat-fight so they can continue to declare Trump unfit for office.
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I don't think it will work.
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Re: I don't believe the dems have any intent to pursue truth.
May 8, 2019, 4:41 PM
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You don't find it a little interesting how y'all say stuff like that while also somehow thinking the GOP and Trump are the honest good guys filled with integrity?
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Oculus Spirit [93690]
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I thought we agreed that they are all lying scum.
May 9, 2019, 12:45 AM
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You only seem to point out the lying scum when it's Trump or a pub. If you guys got off Trump's asz for two minutes I could find a place to sit when I climb on. Did Trump obstruct justice? We'll never know the truth.
He said many times the investigation was a waste of time and money. As much as I wanted it to finish without interruption I resisted criticizing him for that because there are many reasons to not have the investigation into Trump Russia collusion conspiracy. I didn't see him motivated to keep from being prosecuted and he knew all along he didn't conspire with Russia to do anything illegal.
It turned out he was right. Move on.
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Re: I thought we agreed that they are all lying scum.
May 9, 2019, 8:08 AM
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You only seem to point out the lying scum when it's Trump or a pub.
You know that's not true. I've spent many days on this board over the years slamming Dems, especially the likes of the Clintons.
The problem is it seems you actually do think Trump is a good president and has your best interest in mind.
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Yes, basically this is a political tantrum because they
May 8, 2019, 3:09 PM
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didn’t get what they wanted. They could not be more obvious. Each strained justification for more information...for full report...for full UNREDACTED report...for full unredacted report open to everyone, not just committee members...for full unredacted report for everyone plus notes...it just is such a pathetic effort to try to embarrass Trump. Every other justification is laughable. And then end result is that those who support him will be all the more supportive and those who hate him couldn’t really hate him much more.
Same goes for his tax returns. No one is fooled about any high purpose. They want dirt. It is their sole purpose as elected officials...which I guess, as a conservative, I should embrace. It beats what they would propose as legislation I guess.
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Re: Yes, basically this is a political tantrum because they
May 9, 2019, 7:01 AM
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Trump's embarrassed himself more than the Dems can.
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Now now. It’s not a competition.***
May 9, 2019, 9:13 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83135]
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Saying they are all liars and crooks
May 8, 2019, 3:10 PM
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is mental laziness especially when it comes to all 435 House members.
Now, I'll admit, anyone in any position of power or responsibility has to lie at times, but this includes people from every profession.
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How many vote for budget overages and deficits every year
May 8, 2019, 3:47 PM
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because some pet project adds pork to their state? I'd bet everyone of them at some point.
So saying they are crooks isn't lazy, its truth. They commit generational theft basically by doing what they think is best for their constituents.
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Oculus Spirit [83135]
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LOL. It would be more of a crime to never pass a budget
May 8, 2019, 3:57 PM
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and just shut the govt. down forever.
Saying 100% are crooks is just a thing people say without thinking much.
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Certainly..pass a budget.
May 9, 2019, 8:42 AM
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Passing a budget that knowingly will cause a deficit that will add to our debt is theft.
Or are you the sort that thinks we'll actually pay off the 22 Trillion in debt we owe?
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i can see your point
May 8, 2019, 3:58 PM
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i do think it's mental laziness to ever expect true change from DC on either side.
liars and crooks may not be 100% accurate, so let's go with self-serving and shady? (which we all are a bit self serving. Just when I am it doesn't impact nearly as many people) are any of them on a health insurance plan similar to yours, mine and ours?
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Oculus Spirit [83135]
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Yea, our form of govt. is terrible but
May 8, 2019, 4:38 PM
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at the same time, the best in the world.
Many politicians have the best intentions but collectively end up doing what's best for the short term only.
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Oculus Spirit [93690]
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What is a liar. Do you have a dictionary?
May 9, 2019, 12:48 AM
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Do you determine a man is not a liar. Do you believe he isn't a liar if he only lies for business or politics? Do you justify telling a lie?
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I have an illustrated version.
May 9, 2019, 8:21 AM
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read that as pron, yes go ahead***
May 9, 2019, 10:21 AM
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