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The liberals arn't going to be pleased with that news.***
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He's definitely a radicalized liberal...
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:13 AM
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which will come as a surprise to absolutely no one.
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Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:18 AM
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Suspected murderer Boelter was a Republican who, as an evangelical Christian minister, gave sermons railing against abortion and LGBTQ people.
According to court documents, after extensive research and planning, Boelter embarked on a murderous rampage targeting Minnesota’s elected officials and their families. On June 14, 2025, the defendant disguised himself as a member of law enforcement and traveled to the homes of Democratic elected officials with the intent to intimidate and murder. Early that morning, the defendant traveled to the Hoffmans home in Champlin, Minnesota. By posing as a police officer, Boelter compelled the Hoffmans to answer their door. He then repeatedly shot Senator Hoffman and Yvette Hoffman and he attempted to shoot their daughter, Hope Hoffman.
Boelter then traveled to the homes of two other Minnesota elected officials, only to find that no one at those locations was home. He next drove to the home of Speaker Emerita and Representative Melissa Hortman. There, Boelter repeatedly shot, and killed, Representative Hortman and her husband, Mark. Following a two-day manhunt, law enforcement arrested the defendant near his family residence in Green Isle, Minnesota.
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I sure do and that was equally as heinous!
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:26 AM
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Political violence has no place in our society and Tyler Robinson, just like Vance Boelter, will be held accountable for his crimes.
One thing is for sure, regardless of political views or ideologies, if we don't find an off ramp and something to unite and cement us as a nation, things are only going to get worse.
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For some reason, those assassinations just did not create the level of outrage,
Sep 12, 2025, 10:32 AM
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and threats of retaliation that this one did. There were quite a few politicians making false allegations of the political motivations of the shooter
There was not a single post about it on the Clemson Football Board.
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Re: For some reason, those assassinations just did not create the level of outrage,
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:42 AM
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Again - this was a public assassination in front of thousands of people, with the video of the very bloody event posted all over the internet. The victim is one of the most prominent and polarizing political people in the country. He has millions and millions of followers and connected with younger generations more than any other politician I can remember.
Anyone struggling to understand why it's getting the attention it is is just lying to themselves.
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Yes, it is quite a contrast in reactions.
Sep 12, 2025, 10:52 AM
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As you said, "one of the most prominent and polarizing political people in the country" generates the most attention while another school shooting and the assassination of multiple politicians in Minnesota generates crickets.
Quite a contrast.
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Re: Yes, it is quite a contrast in reactions.
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Dude can you give it a rest? You act like republicans don’t give a $**t about school shootings and the MN situations. It’s all horrible
Quit trying to prove “you’re right” that this is a big deal, yet other tragedies aren’t because “republicans love orange man”
A father was brutally murdered in front of his wife and two children. Do you have children? Could you image if that happened to you in front of them? You no longer being there for them?
The same with the innocent children in schools scared for their lives during a school shooting. It’s all horrible and gotten out of control, but lefties like you just want to start an argument about how republicans are hypocrites.
Give it a rest man. We need to be coming together and being better neighbors, not pointing fingers on an online message board.
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It's both.***
Sep 12, 2025, 11:03 AM
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Exactly. People were able to see every bit of the horror with Kirk's killing.
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:21 PM
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They were just told about the lawmakers in MN. Just like they're just told about kids being killed in schools.
The live events providing extraordinarily graphic images are the ones that seem to stick the most and cause the most reaction. The Kennedy assassination, 9/11 towers being hit and coming down, this recent murder ... all extraordinarily graphic -- all extending trauma to every person who saw it unfold with their own eyes.
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One good place to start if you want to unite people
Sep 12, 2025, 11:25 AM
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would be to not demonize the other side before we know anything about the suspect or what the motive was. Or act like this is a one side issue. But too late for that.
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:30 AM
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Or the mass murder at Walmart in El Paso. Then there is the shooting of the church in Charleston. We also have the synagogue in PA. Sadly. These nutcase transcend political parties. They come from every background. I thinknthe media which includes the internet helps warp the minds of these people.
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2 young people were shot at a High School in Evergreen Colorado at the same time
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:33 AM
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Kirk was shot.
There was not a single post about it on The Clemson Football Board.
Weird.
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Re: 2 young people were shot at a High School in Evergreen Colorado at the same time
Sep 12, 2025, 10:36 AM
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Probably because Kirk was higher profile. Just like if Taylor Swift was shot today nobody would be talking about some other shooting. People knew who Kirk was anf its a bigger story. Pretty straightforward.
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School shootings seem to be accepted as common and people just look away
Sep 12, 2025, 10:39 AM
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and move on with their lives as if it was no big deal.
Quite a contrast.
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Re: School shootings seem to be accepted as common and people just look away
Sep 12, 2025, 10:57 AM
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Definitely. They are expected and people aren't familiar with the victims. The are familiar with Kirk.
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
Sep 12, 2025, 11:12 AM
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Uep...it points out how messed up people can be and it transcends political parties. It puts perspective on things when needed.
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
Sep 12, 2025, 11:21 AM
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No it doesn't
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
Sep 12, 2025, 11:27 AM
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It actually does, as much as you want to be in denial.
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:38 AM
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He was also in possession of "no kings" left wing propaganda and had been an appointee to a state advisory board by Dem Gov Tim Walz who he claimed told him to murder the states senator and many others to advance Walzs career prospects. In other words the guy was insane and to watch lefties do everything they can to paint him as some kind of "right wing" assassin only reeks of desperation. Guess theyll be telling us this little weirdo murderer is a right winger too a few months from now.
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
Sep 12, 2025, 10:59 AM
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Maybe he was trying to get back at his MAGA dad. Who knows? Either way he is nuts and will probably be put to death.
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I have a hard time believing you're even serious with this.
Sep 12, 2025, 2:24 PM
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The guy also dressed like a cop when he went knocking on his targets' doors. Do you think he premeditated how he was going to carry out these killings, and how he wanted it to be framed?
His roommates and acquaintances say he was a Trump supporter. He was a registered Republican. He is a preacher with videos of him railing against trans and gay/lesbian people in DRC in 2021 and 2023. There is a MOUNTAIN of evidence that he was a far right wingnut, but....you've cracked the case because of a stack of "No Kings" flyers.
This is absolutely, 100% you and RTD creating your own reality, and it makes you incapable of any kind of honest debate. You don't care about truth, because you're a partisan POS. At least TRY to be a better person. Let's start with honesty, even when it doesn't comport to your political views.
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
Sep 12, 2025, 10:45 AM
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I do remember, but do not remember anyone celebrating it. If they did, I hope they were fired on the spot and are blacklisted from any decent workplace. Equally as deprived!
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
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Sep 12, 2025, 10:55 AM
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So your response to Kirk's murderer being caught is to bring up the Minnesota killings? This is what is wrong with the left. Both killings have no place in our society. The difference was no conservative celebrated the deaths of Minnesota deaths. There were no posts of hate or they deserved it, nothing like we are seeing towards Charlie Kirk. Chuck I think you need to look in the mirror and look deep into your soul and ask just what kind of man you are.
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You might want to do some research and improve your understanding
Sep 12, 2025, 11:00 AM
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of the facts.
Quite a contrast in reactions.
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Re: You might want to do some research and improve your understanding
Sep 12, 2025, 11:04 AM
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A very explainable, reasonable, justifiable, and expected contract in the reactions. And you know that, but instead you just want to stir the pot. Typical leftist.
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If providing facts makes you uncomfortable, then so be it.
Sep 12, 2025, 11:07 AM
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That's a you problem.
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Re: If providing facts makes you uncomfortable, then so be it.
Sep 12, 2025, 11:14 AM
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The problem isn't facts. The problem is your complete refusal to draw logical conclusions from the facts.
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I've pointed out the contrast in reactions to multiple murders and shootings.
Sep 12, 2025, 11:17 AM
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You can draw your own conclusions.
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I'll let you try to figure that out.
Sep 12, 2025, 11:05 AM
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Give it some thought and see what you can come up with.
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Re: I'll let you try to figure that out.
Sep 12, 2025, 11:22 AM
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Already did and your premise is false.
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Re: Remember Vance Boelter? Registered Republican and Evangelical Minister
Sep 12, 2025, 11:47 AM
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Funny you say he was a republican. When it clearly states in court documents that he was unaffiliated with either party. He was also placed on two different boards by Democrat governors. Just wanted to correct that little oversight.
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The shooter is ANTIFA.
Sep 12, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Sorry if this disappoints you.
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Re: The shooter is ANTIFA.
Sep 12, 2025, 11:31 AM
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Probably not. More than likely you have no idea. He could be though? Time will tell.
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Re: The shooter is ANTIFA.
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You need to read the news. He has been connected to Antifa.
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He used all sorts of ironic trolling phrasing
Sep 12, 2025, 11:47 AM
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There’s a whole right wing online segment who use anime and other weird crap. They think guys like Kirk are too soft.
The people who are crazy enough to actually do these things aren’t gonna be cookie cutter traditional conservative or liberal.
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liberal is not the correct term anymore. Its either Stalinist or Marxist i guess
Sep 12, 2025, 11:49 AM
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liberal alludes to freedom. Nothing they do promotes freedom. Exact opposite. Freedom means free to choose. Their idea is you have a right to choose their ideals... either by force or intimidation. How people aren't running from that party in droves is hard to fathom.
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Re: The liberals arn't going to be pleased with that news.***
Sep 12, 2025, 11:07 AM
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The liberals could give shyats about a white nationalist grifter. In a month you will have forgotten Chalie Kirk and move to the next grievance, possibly a close game with Wakwe Forrest will trigger your jimmies and give you cause to be a vicitm.
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Re: The liberals arn't going to be pleased with that news.***
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You still celebrating the death you sick POS?
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Re: The liberals arn't going to be pleased with that news.***
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Hes rubbed his peter raw fapping all nght to Charlie Kirks neck exploding so he decided to take a break and try to infect the normies with his reddit BS.
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Re: The liberals arn't going to be pleased with that news.***
Sep 12, 2025, 11:29 AM
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I think both liberals and conservatives should give a $hIt about the murder of anyone in the political arena. These type of incidents are becoming way, way too common and are beyond disturbing.
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Looks like he was raised in a conservative Christian home in Utah
Sep 12, 2025, 11:56 AM
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and exposed to guns at an early age. Do these guys look like "liberals" to you???
Sounds like the things liberals have been warning about for years. Maybe you guys will listen now?
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You're not fooling anyone.***
Sep 12, 2025, 12:12 PM
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You say that while most extremist type of shootings are far right...
Sep 12, 2025, 1:09 PM
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/extremism-mass-casualty-events-shootings/
That is a little old but stats through 2021...
"Most violent plots are planned by far-right extremists
Number of mass-casualty plots, including unsuccessful plots, that had extremist ties, by type, 1990-2021"
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"Similarly, reports from the DHS and ADL also indicate far-right extremists make up the plurality of violent attacks with extremist ties. Thirty-five percent of domestic terrorist incidents between 2010 and 2021 were classified as “racially or ethnically-motivated,” according to data from the DHS. And a recent report from the ADL found right-wing extremists were behind the majority of extremist-linked mass-casualty events over the past decade.
“Over the past decade, right-wing extremists have committed the majority of extremist-related killings in all years but one — 2016, the year of the shooting spree at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, by a person motivated by Islamist extremism,” the report read."
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oh so you're lumping islamic extremists in as right wing?
Sep 12, 2025, 2:38 PM
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then i'd assume you would do the same with german socialists in the 40s? We need to redefine what we're talking about then.
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Lol, your reading comprehension friend...
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It said all but one, which was Islamist. Read it again.
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Re: An arrest has been made in the Charlie Kirk assassination
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Saying his name is Tyler Robinson, turned in by his father they are saying.
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Re: An arrest has been made in the Charlie Kirk assassination
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The reporting I'm following says his father encouraged him to turn himself in, he didn't do it right away, so the father reached out to their pastor who also encourage him. He then turned himself in.
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Re: An arrest has been made in the Charlie Kirk assassination
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Tough spot. Remember the unabomber was turned in by his brother who recognized his writings in the manifesto. Glad they did the right thing. A shame they couldnt have diverted their relatives from the heinous crimes but sometimes you just cant reach people.
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It was just a matter of time anyway. Nowadays all they need is a couple
Sep 12, 2025, 10:18 AM
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skin cells to develop a DNA profile LOL. And even if he's wasn't in a database, they can do that reverse family tree stuff, like they used to finally nail the Golden State Killer from 50 years ago. Somebody in his extended family has uploaded to Ancestry, 23andMe, etc. They get a hit, find some distant 4th cousin, and start with the great-great-grandpa and work it down. Combine that with facial recognition technology and all the other tools available now... hey, if they really want you, they'll get you!
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In this day and age...
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it's nearly impossible to go anywhere without being under near constant video surveillance.
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Re: An arrest has been made in the Charlie Kirk assassination
Sep 12, 2025, 12:20 PM
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Looks like he was raised by some nutty extreme nutcase MAGA dude. The kid went nuts.
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The problem is ANYBODY who's radicalized, whether they're liberal or......
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Bingo***
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Re: An arrest has been made in the Charlie Kirk assassination
Sep 12, 2025, 12:50 PM
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Thank you for sharing the story about the Charlie Kirk murder. Over the years there have been many people that I have strongly disagreed with. People who have had political views or religious beliefs I strongly disagreed with. But I would never be happy that someone killed this person.
If you feel Charlie Kirk got what he deserved, IMO you are one sick individual. Regardless of weather you agreed with his views, what happened Wednesday is an American tragedy. Wednesday is truly a sad day for this country and the world.
I have heard people say “ well Charlie Kirk was very divisive in his views and it his fault his was murdered. Many may not have supported Charlie Kirk’s views or his opinions about certain minority groups. Groups who spew their own Hate speech every day because they have freedom of speech to.
Many of these groups can get violent if you criticize or disagree with their views or lifestyle. But they don’t deserve to be murdered either.
A well known IMO highly respected
member of Tigernet posted about this subject I feel was 100% correct when he said the world, our country and so many people are polarized. It seems like a line in the sand has been drawn. Tragically there are people on each side of that line who thrive on creating division with their Hate Speech. Honestly, I believe most people just want to enjoy life.
It is really tragic and sad that Hate and divisive rhetoric has taken over our society. Whatever happened to Gods words “ Love thy neighbor as you love thy self. “ Do you even know your neighbor ??? Many people Iive next to someone they never get to know.
We are a country with many freedoms. One of those freedoms is free speech. It is one of the very freedoms that many Men and Women have given their lives defending so we can enjoy these freedoms. We have several Veterans or Current Military Service members on T-net who are defending our freedoms even today.
To those people I say Thank You for the sacrifices you have made or are currently making for people like me. I am sure many others who post on Tigernet appreciate you very much and are grateful for the freedoms you defend. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
If their are people out there you know who regret the bullet missed President Trump and feel Charlie Kirk got what he received then you may God have mercy on your Soul because I believe you need Mental Health Treatment immediately.
Clemson professor Villaver is a Major Embarrassment to any who truly loves Clemson. I feel he should be Fired immediately. We have Freedom of speech but in this case I feel it was an abusive use of that freedom.
I guarantee all who read this post knows if Dabo, any other Clemson coach or athlete would have already been dismissed or terminated.
I have loved Clemson since I was a kid. All though I did not attend Clemson but my daughter is a 2015 graduate. Unfortunately, over the 5 years she spent at Clemson changed her views on life. It is not just Clemson it’s most of the colleges and universities who have a 13:1 ratio of liberal professors compared to a limited number of conservative professors. This ratio is changing not only our kids into liberal, disrespectful young adults who think they know everything. But they are changing our society into a polarized world.
I remember the day as a little kid watching the TV. A little boy standing with his mom and sister Saluting his Dad’s casket as it passed by. John Kennedy Jr was that little boy. That to was a tragic day for this country to. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Again, there are 2 young kids wondering why they Daddy is not coming home any longer 🥲🥲 and a young wife who lost her husband.
I am asking that those will to Offer prayers for the Kirk Family , those on Tigernet who are struggling with an illness, loss of someone very special or for those who may be struggling financially. And please prayers for the young Ukrainian girl’s family who was murdered in Charlotte, NC because our justice system failed her.
May God Bless the Kirk Family, this country, Clemson University and our world. May God show his amazing love, mercy and compassion to this polarized world in need of healing 🙏🙏🙏🙏
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Re: An arrest has been made in the Charlie Kirk assassination
Sep 12, 2025, 1:52 PM
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Lol at the "liberal professor" ratio narrative. I am myself a Clemson graduate, and I cannot recall 1 single time a professor ever getting political. Not once. Maybe if I would have taken a political science class that number would be 1 instead of 0.
Keep reaching Baw.
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Clemson Faculty just start a Go Fund Me account for the shooter.***
Sep 15, 2025, 11:55 AM
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