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Coward med researcher killed his own -vax bad outcome for kids- study
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Oct 28, 2025, 8:55 PM
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Excerpts (some paraphrased for brevity) from article authored by Benjamin Bartee, Oct. 28, 2025
Mr. Barter aptly categorizes the Medical Doctor class into three distinct subsets (with regard to children’s vaccination protocols.)
· Doctors who tell the truth about vaccines regardless of the professional or literal costs
· Doctors who evangelize about vaccines as if they are manna from heaven (often generating millions or hundreds of millions of dollars for themselves for their efforts)
· Doctors — not necessarily malicious, but definitely spineless — who defer their professional opinion to whatever they deem to be the consensus, taking the path of safety and least resistance. They may whisper their skepticisms to a colleague over drinks after work, but they would never risk it all by going to the mat with their misgivings
The first class of doctors, the only ones worth a ####, are vanishingly rare, and all the more so after their ranks were purged during COVID — a sweet ancillary benefit for the industry that made billions off the most profitable “vaccine” in human history.
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Industry would prefer that the medical community be packed with the second cohort, the vaccine evangelist, as they don’t need to resort to coercive measures to keep them under control. Far from a liability, in fact, the evangelist with the credibility of the “MD” behind their name can serve as a powerful asset.
Alas, I suspect that most doctors fall into the third category — the go-along-to-get-along type who take their marching orders with hung heads and do whatever they need to do to keep the cash and prestige.
Meet Dr. Marcus Zervos, epitome of that third category and the lead author of a truly remarkable, large-scale study on chronic disease rates in vaxxed vs. unvaxxed children that we’ll survey coming up — a study that HIS OWN INSTITUTION BURIED, the existence of which was never acknowledged publicly until Sen. Ron Johnson got ahold of it and entered it into the Congressional record in September.
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(Summary of the outcome from the Dr. Zervos et Al study.)
“Henry Ford Health System (HFHS) is a large, vertically integrated healthcare system, offering primary, pediatric, acute, and specialty services in Metropolitan Detroit, with 4.2 million ambulatory care visits annually. The Health Alliance Plan (HAP), a non-profit health maintenance organization (HMO) and subsidiary of HFHS, has approximately 570,000 enrolled members…
This retrospective study evaluated health outcomes of a consecutive cohort of children born between 2000 and 2016 and enrolled in HAP…
Data sources for this study included medical, clinical and payer records from HFHS and HAP, supplemented with data from the State of Michigan immunization registry. Data tables included encounters (outpatient and emergency), hospitalizations, diagnoses, procedures and billing data on all services. Vaccinations evaluated included all vaccines on the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) Recommended Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule (Vaccine Schedule)…
In contrast to our expectations, we found that exposure to vaccination was independently associated with an overall 2.5-fold increase in the likelihood of developing a chronic health condition, when compared to children unexposed to vaccination. This association was primarily driven by increased risk for asthma, atopy, eczema, autoimmune disease and neurodevelopmental disorders. Overall, our findings suggest that in certain children exposure to vaccination may increase the likelihood of developing a chronic health condition, particularly for one of these disorders.”
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On hidden camera, here’s what the Zervos offered by way of explanation for killing the study:
“Publishing something like that, I might as well retire. I’d be finished.”
Interview with Dr. Zervos.
https://x.com/ArmageddonProse/status/1982826824561500508
Consider the moral bankruptcy; this guy would rather keep his vaunted career, his cushy house, his Porsche, and maybe his mistress, than potentially save millions of kids by simply telling the truth, by merely publishing his own study he spent three years of his life executing — who at some point, either explicitly or as a passive consequence of inertia, decided that his salary was the price of his soul.
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(The actual paper that Dr. Zervos and co-authors wrote.)
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Entered-into-hearing-record-Impact-of-Childhood-Vaccination-on-Short-and-Long-Term-Chronic-Health-Outcomes-in-Children-A-Birth-Cohort-Study.pdf
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I know a doctor whose 10yr old son died from measles.
Oct 29, 2025, 12:14 AM
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He was so smart he didn't vaccinate his kids. He's dead now. One of his surviving kids is now a doctor too. Ask him about vaccines.
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Paw Master [17529]
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Where to even begin?
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Oct 29, 2025, 8:53 AM
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RTD, what is the truth regarding vaccines?
I read the unpublished study by Dr Zeros very carefully. At first glance it is quite obvious that this study is quite flawed and should not have been published.A third year med student could easily spot the flaws.
The study would not have been published by any reputable scientific publication based on the flaws.
I remain open to the possibility that the vaccine schedule or even some vaccines MAY have deleterious effects not yet appreciated. I remain open to the possibility that the COVID vaccine may be shown to have deleterious effects that exceed the deleterious effects of COVID itself. I very seriously doubt that however.
However, until there is solid science to show any of this, as a whole I'm very pleased that my grandkids have access and are taking the recommended childhood vaccines save for COVID.
As to Benjamin Bartee, a former English teacher hanging out in Bangkok, why do you trust anything out of his mouth? Why would you hang your hat on some random dude hanging out in Thailand?
The truth about vaccines is that they have saved countless lives and prevented polio which was once a scourge.It's rare that kids die in childhood. That was not always the case.
Most vaccines are administered in the offices of Pediatricians. Please let the lowest paid physicians of all physicians know about the millions of dollars they're making.
Physicians are free to say whatever they want. You should check out a doctors dining room or surgeons lounge. There are no shrinking violets there. There is no FCC trying to squelch free speech.No one is curbing opinions.
What doctors were purged during COVID? Can you provide a list of purged physicians?
https://www.henryford.com/news/2025/09/vaccine-study-henry-ford-health
This "study" is a joke. Honestly, there are so many holes in it.
What is your solution? Stop all vaccines?
Again, I'm open to discussing a well done study on anything, but this study was simply not well done.
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Re: Where to even begin?
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Oct 29, 2025, 10:18 AM
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I read the paper too, I liked the big fat zeros in the diagnosis columns for the non vaccinated kids, 0/2000 ish ADHD, ok sure thing buddy. Nevermind the completely unaccounted for observational bias of lack of follow up in the unvaxxed arm.
There’s a reason this wasn’t published and the guy feels like he’d be persecuted if it was, but it’s because it doesn’t stand up to peer review, not some conspiracy to “hide the truth.”
Of course this was presented in a congressional hearing by RFK’s buddy and entered into the record by Ron Johnson. Let’s step back and really analyze where the agenda is coming from- the people who didn’t publish this trash paper, or the avowed antivax warriors with an axe to grind.
RTDs editorializing about doctors is just laughable drivel. I hear so many conspiracies and watch so much Fox News in the surgeons lounge, Danny would feel right at home.
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Re: Where to even begin?
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Oct 29, 2025, 12:25 PM
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There’s a reason this wasn’t published and the guy feels like he’d be persecuted if it was, but it’s because it doesn’t stand up to peer review, not some conspiracy to “hide the truth.”
This. It was a #### study that didn't hold up the scrutiny that all studies like this go through.
And from The Guardian:
Witnesses on both sides of the debate during the hearing agreed that the study in question found no link between vaccines and autism.
Suck it, RLowTD.
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Re: Where to even begin?
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Oct 29, 2025, 7:40 PM
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The point of the article (and of my post) is not meant to be conflated as ‘all vaccines are bad’ or ‘vaccines cause autism.’
It is meant to point out that there are MDs in America who sell out their medical ethics in exchange for the material trappings associated with a successful career as a physician / medical researcher. These are not extremely rare anomalies. I’ve got too much anecdotal evidence from family, colleagues, and friends to accept a ‘this is extremely rare’ counter argument.
It is also meant to remind everyone about the millions of nasty Americans who equated fellow citizens who had expressed doubt about the honesty of our govt health agencies as ‘purveyors of misinformation who should be held responsible for the deaths of Americans who died from (primarily COVID 19)’; ‘domestic terrorists’ (as Biden admin had defined ‘vax deniers’ in their endeavors to coerce Twitter and FaceBook to ‘censor’ [evict from their platforms] and ‘report on the activities of vax deniers to the govt’), and sociopathic politicians who eagerly vilify Americans who spoke out against government mandates to take the vaccine.
Despite the gradual (but steady) truth comes out and becomes part of the ‘(revised) settled science,’ there remains an obdurate refusal from the parrots of the ‘pro-everything that govt health agencies (I.e., prior to RFK Jr) say’ narratives to express any contrition for their evil accusations that vax deniers are ‘de facto murderers’ as well as ‘science denying ignoramuses.’
Over time, ‘ignorant vax deniers’ such as me have witnessed the exposure of lies from our ‘trusted’ health authorities that have gone well beyond COVID 19 and COVID vaxxes, but to numerous other examples of grotesque medical misinformation -&- outright disinformation. If honest people think about this, they’ll (with relative ease) recall the step-by-step ‘backing down’ from numerous lies from our health agencies.
Just because the truth comes out slowly doesn’t obviate that the cumulative amount of truth is somehow insignificant or irrelevant.
Back to the article. The vax deniers have long decried the significant presence of MDs that have (at least, somewhat) compromised their Hipocratic Oath by refusing to consider anything that went counter to AMA / other medical type professional journals. Regardless of what TNet’s MDs think of Dr. Zervos’ study, it does reveal what sober, attentive people know: it is not a rarity for ethically compromised MDs to be present in our society.
I expect that TNet’s medical professionals will resort to reflexive defense of their ethically compromised MD colleagues instead of adopting a mindset of circumspection I.e, that non-MDs who express reasoned / founded doubt are not necessarily intellectually deficient people who should never dare to question the practices and beliefs of the medical professionals.
My expectations that non-medical professionals of partisan political persuasion will never acknowledge their shameful gaslighting of fellow citizens who ‘swam against the current’ by being relentless in efforts to explore less frequently publicized opposing perspectives (and information) to what their political leaders told them to believe. These are small minded, insecure people who are not the type to (in their own minds) admit being wrong in how they assessed the people who disagreed with them. To them, moving the goal posts is their way of (fooling themselves) into sustaining their self respect. Open expressions of contrition are out of the question for them.
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Paw Master [17529]
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Lot to unpack again
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Oct 30, 2025, 8:07 AM
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First of all, I do not think you are intellectually deficient. I just don't think you are well informed on the medical community or the requirements of a reputable medical or scientific journal to publish a study.
You know things that everyone on this site doesn't know and everyone on this site knows things you don't know. My objection to your post was not a statement about your intelligence or overall knowledge, but in this lane, I know I'm better informed.
Zeros's study was simply a poorly done study and no reputable medical or scientific entity would publish a study that was so flawed. The study was simply not worthy of publishing. This had little to nothing to do about Zeros.
I would submit that his study has far more views now that a former English teacher hanging out in Bangkok has put this out on the internet, than he would have, had it been published. I suspect Dr Zeros despite the fact that his study is widely available to the entire world, still has his home, vehicle(not likely a Porsche), etc..
Zeros's study was remarkable in how poorly constructed it was, but unfortunately this now gives another parent a reason to hold off on vaccinating their kid. The study has far more circulation thanks to Mr Bartee.
You mention your significant anecdotal evidence from family, colleagues, and friends to bolster your claim that it is not extremely rare that there are MDs who are unethical.
Are you using the same skepticism towards family, friends, and colleagues to reach your conclusion?
Anecdotal evidence is just that, anecdotal.I know for an unassailable fact that I know more physicians and know them very well than you, and while I have encountered a few bad apples, it IS extremely rare that a physician compromises his/her ethics over money or standing. I do know a few, but it is extremely rare and eventually there are consequences for unethical behavior.
You did not address my point that Pediatricians are generally the lowest paid MDs, yet these are the docs administering the most vaccines. I can assure you they are not making millions. In fact, the proportion of doctors making over a million/yr is exceedingly small.
You are correct that we were not told the truth on masks or the efficacy of the COVID vaccine and some other matters by Fauci and others.
That has created enormous mistrust now and cynicism towards virtually everything.
We don't know everything about the long term effects of the COVID vaccine or COVID either. It is ok to question things, but at some point a person needs to find someone they trust rather than searching the internet for the answers.
There is no grand conspiracy to keep doctors in line. That is actually humorous. I only wish it were easier to get doctors together to fight administrators in a unified manner. Getting doctors together is like herding cats.
The AMA holds very little sway with doctors and only a fraction of doctors are even members. I never received a memo from my specialty board, any hospital, DHEC, etc., telling me to do something or not do something.
I also know that because of all the vaccine skepticism, kids are needlessly getting sick and kids are actually dying and that is a fact and that is tragic.
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Do you understand what "peer reviewed" means in the medical/science world?***
Oct 30, 2025, 8:10 AM
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Re: Coward med researcher killed his own -vax bad outcome for kids- study
Oct 29, 2025, 9:41 AM
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I feel like we are living in a world run by Cliff Clavin. We are now going to get vaccine advice from a person who advocated drinking Clorox to cure COVID. SMH.
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Remember that post the other day about not being able to discern reality?
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Oct 29, 2025, 10:23 AM
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I swear you take the bait with gusto on everything posted to Gateway pundit, you are like the PRIME demographic for the grifters spreading any kind of anti-establishment ruse.
How are your stockpiles of MREs and colloidal silver looking?
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Re: Coward med researcher killed his own -vax bad outcome for kids- study
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Oct 29, 2025, 10:32 AM
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Non-MAGA GOP reps — not necessarily malicious, but definitely spineless — who defer their opinion to whatever they deem to be the consensus, taking the path of safety and least resistance. They may whisper their skepticisms to a colleague over drinks after work, but they would never risk it all by going to the mat with their misgivings
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