I agree that we need more support from the fans

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Yep. Ignorant. VIrginia has more refs residing in their

Mar 16, 2014, 10:14 PM

state than any other state outside of North Carolina.A couple of years ago, I did a quick search and I believe I am correct in saying that Virginia and North Carolina had 40% of the refs in the ACC. Pretty good advantage and may explain the bias. In addition, it is apparent you do not know the history of this conference. In the late 70's early 80's Clemson and South Carolina threatened to leave the conference. We were both at a distinct disadvantage because the ACC required recruits to have a minimum 800 SAT score. South Carolina left, we stayed. The ACC has held it against us ever since. Pretty ironic is it not, considering the lenience they have shown North Carolina. Let me explain that. We received an extra year of probation from the ACC, to maintain academic integrity of the conference, because a booster gave two recruits, who never attended Clemson a few hundred dollars. And when I day, an extra year, I mean an extra year with NO Bowls, NO TV, No ability to win the ACC title .We could not claim the ACC title even if we went undefeated.Yet, North Carolina, last year, while on probation for football, put up banners and billboards claiming the Division title in football. We have been singled out for more violations that other schools seem to avoid than one can count. For instance, just a few years ago, a picture was posted showing our football players during the acclimation period, wearing the same padded under shorts the basketball team wears during games. Swofford,and I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you know who he is and what his history is, immediately penalized us for practicing in pads before the appropriate time. He was going to take away three of our practices before we had to open with Alabama. However, in short order,pictures of North Carolina players practicing in the same pads were posted on the internet, that were obtained from the UNC website. Swofford and the ACC said," No harm, no foul." and the pics of UNC were quickly taken down from their website. And just for funsies, I want to remind you of the basketball game in Chapel Hill a few years ago, where we finished the game with only 4 players on the court. The others ALL fouled out. I have NEVER seen that in a college game. North Carolina shot 60, S I X T Y , foul shots. They made more fouls shots than we attempted.

Now, do a little research before you preach to long time Clemson fans. And, I am sure many other posters on here can add to what I have said. This is just what I could run off at the top of my head...

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wake up and smell the coffee.. We have gotten screwed in some way almost every year that we have been in the ACC, not just in basketball but in football as well. It was the beloved ACC that gave us an extra year of probation in 82. We have lost every year to Carolina in Chapel Hill, not because they were always better. but because we are Clemson and too stupid to see it and do something about it..How many times has a close game gone our way against the North Carolina schools? I dare say none or at best one. So stop saying Clemson is to blame for all of it, and realize as long as we are in the conference we are going to get a screwing at sometime during the year.. We had the chance several years ago to get out and because of basketball and basketball only we chose not too. it has turned out to be the biggest mistake of the century. Ask Rick Barnes why he left... he will tell you. I dare say it was because he knew Clemson would never stand up to the almighty Swafford and his cronies.. Now I know most of the young ones on here don't see this but those of us that have been around for over 50 years as avid tiger fans know..... so you are right enough is enough... We need to start standing up to the league and demand the respect we deserve.

Tigernet enough is enough!!

^^^ has never been to an NC State site

That Stepchild NcState has Two National Titles and Six ACC!!***

which proves just how biased the refs (and conference) are

Those national titles were in the 1970's. Since the 90's..

Nope Jimmy V won one in the 80's***

Amen Iptay Family! Couldn't agree more!

You are either ignorant of the past 61 years or an idiot.***

No I'm not !!!!! Clemson

Yes you are.***

Okay keep blaming the ACC and see where that

Yep. Ignorant. VIrginia has more refs residing in their

+1. Don't confuse him !!!!....!!!!....!!!!....!!!!....!!!!..***

I was unaware of many of this myself...grew up a Clemson fan

Bill Foster left because Miami paid him more and he did not

Plus, Foster refused to play Fred Gilliam who was

Re: where is Clemson's "lake" of success???

Don't try to convince these conspiracy theorists of that.

Dadgum Son, if you only knew we got an extra year from the

What does that have too do with basketball?

the point is

I agree about the North Carolina

No partner. WHen we had the best talent, Tree,Wise, Rome, we

Re: Dadgum Son, if you only knew we got an extra year from the

OH please give me a break.***

So much

You CAN

There are a lot of exclamation points in your post

44? Siriusly?

what do you think took him so long?

We cried about

i like this guy.***

Re: i like this guy.***

If you read

I blame everyone but myself!***

yet another reason it's good to be me...***

You make some good points. Life isn't always fair, and you

Most of our basketball woes over the years have been

Yeah preach it brutha!***

if clemson doesn't "believe" enough to get firmly behind

Any organization, as you well know, has to be built from

Okay you it's the ACC fault what would you have us do?

OP had the stands packed in Littlejohn often and how did

Yea you can remember a game or two with the

I went to over a dozen games at LJC this year(most years,

Re: Tigernet enough is enough!!

Re: Tigernet enough is enough!!

Nice rant, but like the OP said, what is your solution?

pass

What a stupid post! Like you are checking every ACC site

The ACC is as crooked as they come.

You must be 11 or 12 or have only been a Clemson fan

Re: Tigernet enough is enough!!

Hey rhett

Yes I do!

Re: Tigernet enough is enough!!

The call in the Pitt game was a terrible call, but not

Re: The call in the Pitt game was a terrible call, but not

I'm sure that elite basketball programs like Duke and UNC

Re: Tigernet enough is enough!! <- You just don't know

Agree! Whining is way over the top!!******

Sticking your head in the sand is worse.***

Re: Sticking your head in the sand is worse.***

Doesn't understand the proper usage of to vs too.***

Yes, NC State fans do complain about ACC refs and so did..

If you don't like to read people's complaints Rhett you are

Re: Tigernet enough is enough!!

Couple thoughts on this...

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