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How do you have a Fielders Choice w 2 Outs?
Mar 7, 2014, 10:31 PM
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Re: How do you have a Fielders Choice w 2 Outs?
Mar 7, 2014, 10:34 PM
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I believe because the infielder chose to come home with the ball they could not call it a hit or an error so they go with fielders choice. Fielders Choice is just that a choice by the fielder, it does not have to result in an out.
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Ok so the play was to home.
Mar 7, 2014, 10:38 PM
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Re: How do you have a Fielders Choice w 2 Outs?
Mar 7, 2014, 10:34 PM
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very common scoring play. fielder tried to make a "play" on a runner other than the hitter and did not get an out. official scorer apparently felt if the play was made on the hitter, he would have been out. in that case, it should not be scored a hit.. and it was not a physical error.. so it is scored a fielder's choice.
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Great explanation ******
Mar 8, 2014, 3:59 AM
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So why isn't it an error
Mar 7, 2014, 10:43 PM
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If a throw to 1st ends the inning?
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Re: So why isn't it an error
Mar 7, 2014, 10:47 PM
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Because there was no error.
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It wasn't a physical error.
Mar 7, 2014, 10:51 PM
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He threw home to make a play at the plate. The throw was not wide and did not miss the man he was throwing to, thus no error.
It was CERTAINLY a mental error on his part (or on the part of his teammates if they did call for him to go home), but you can't assess him an error for attempting to make a play and completing the throw.
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Re: It wasn't a physical error.
Mar 7, 2014, 10:54 PM
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After looking at the replay,it was the only play he had.
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Re: Re: It wasn't a physical error.
Mar 7, 2014, 10:56 PM
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There you go. That makes sense. Then it should be ruled infield hit.
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Don't think so
Mar 7, 2014, 11:00 PM
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The pitcher was moving well on his way to first and had a few steps on the runner. It *may* have been close, but the force out at first seemed the better choice to make a close play.
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From this video
Mar 8, 2014, 3:55 AM
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I don't think he had a play at first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBevidjR6UE&list=UUiAcuTMKc_WBQGFjtPnjxJQ
Looks like the pitcher is going to be late to the bag there. With having to change direction to make an accurate throw to first he probably made the best call to go home with the throw even with it not being a force play. As it was it was a bang/bang play there, so it's hard to fault the kid. Trying to rush an off balanced throw to first in that situation wasn't any more of a sure thing.
About the only thing I might would fault him for is the fact that he probably should have let the the 2B handle the play as he was halfway to second when he fielded the ball and his momentum was going away from either play he had.
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Seems like a standard play like that should be an error
Mar 7, 2014, 10:54 PM
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Unless he was closer to home than 1st by a big margin.
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Last play
Mar 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
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Actually surprised the first baseman didn't tag first or throw to pitcher coming to first. It would have been the third out and inning over. Surprised a D 1 player did that to be honest. Course I didn't see the play. My sons 12 u travel ball team knows better course they make other bonehead plays
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To be fair
Mar 7, 2014, 11:01 PM
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It was soft hit, and the play at first would've been close. He couldn't have tagged it as he was moving the other way, but it sure looked like he could've tossed it to the pitcher who appeared to be in position to beat the runner.
But it was a bang-bang decision, and a VERY close play at the plate even with his decision.
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Re: To be fair
Mar 8, 2014, 5:57 AM
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It was a mistake by the first baseman. 99 times out of a hundred 100 he goes to first regardless of whether it would be close or not. Too much potential for the ball to pop loose at home with the slide. Much easier to get the force out, just made a mental mistake and the tigers benefitted.
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Then it's a base hit.
Mar 7, 2014, 11:28 PM
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Like I said I didn't see it. Oot at a conference. Best I could do was follow on twitter. Go tigers
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Because the batter reached first base while the fielder
Mar 8, 2014, 12:32 AM
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attempted to put out another base runner.
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A Bizarre ending ....I was watching on the net
Mar 8, 2014, 7:06 AM
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and was initially stunned when he threw home. After watching the replays several times it did not look like the pitcher got a good jump to cover first. Slaton is a fast guy. A bang bang decision. Credit Baum with hustling to home. Bet he was surprised too when the play was turned on him
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