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FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 5:35 PM
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I read read that and wonder if he got the tapes mixed up
Mar 7, 2017, 5:52 PM
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DW was the most competent QBs I've ever watched. His anticipation, progression, decision making and I'd argue accuracy were his strengths. I think they gave Hoge the coke stoudt tape. No offense Cole but Deshaun was pretty dang and far better than any other QB this season. The only kid close to him was the kid from the real USC. Other than that he was better than LJ and the rest.
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Re: I read read that and wonder if he got the tapes mixed up
Mar 7, 2017, 7:57 PM
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The only mistake that was made, is that guy made it, he was letting the country find out that he didn't know a thing about DW4, or college FB as a matter of fact. When idiots like that starts throwing stones at a player like DW4, they really should do their homework, bc he just proved that he didn't have a clue of who DW4 really was. Nothing he said could be attached to DeShaun Watson in any kind of a way. Nothing!!!
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 6:01 PM
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Sorry Merl, but never were the brightest candle on the cake. I really fail to get any of his analogies, this makes him look totally uneducated(I chose that over stupid) to the game of football. Bradshaw said in his early days that this guy had a high FB IQ---not a regular high IQ, but football, yes. I always wondered what he meant by that --now I have an ideal--on the field maybe.
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 6:07 PM
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A summary for those who don't read the entire article:
Look at me, look at me, pay me attention, I'm an ESPN analyst and no one cares what I think, so I'm gonna say some outrageous junk so that you'll LOOK AT ME!
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 6:09 PM
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Read Merril's wiki page and you will learn all you need to know. Concussion and sued doc got 1.5 mill lawsuit. Hate it happened to him but explains a lot. Just doesn't know about DW! Period!!! Hey Merril, ask Saban if he wants to play DW again!
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 6:21 PM
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That idiot Hoge looked like a pimp today in his bright pink tie. He reminds me of a hockey guy, without the greased back hair an Canadian accent. He called the QB class "ugly" and said none of them deserve a first round pick. I can't wait for DW4 to make him look stupid.
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 6:33 PM
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Who cares what a 10th round 261 pick has to say about QB's. A 10th round RB he must have suxed pretty bad. He is now and was almost Mr. irrelevant in that draft.
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ESPN format: Say something controversial, get clicks***
Mar 7, 2017, 6:22 PM
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 6:37 PM
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Can they please stop with this "spread" crap and blaming everything on it? NEWSFLASH!!!!! the spread has consumed the nfl. They make it sound design like Payton Manning and guys like him never locked in our one receiver. This time of evaluation is when I really start to question people on tv. Incredible amount of that watson looks off the wr, but they wanna only concentrate on when he didn't?......cmon man!
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 8, 2017, 8:59 AM
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Agreed. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady ran/run more spread offense than "traditional" offense. More quarterbacks operate out of the shotgun and make pre-snap reads. Peyton Manning sat in shotgun and read the defense, put his players in motion, called the protection, hiked the ball and threw it. Tom Brady does the same thing. These guys know where they're going before they even snap the ball and sometimes make mistakes but are smart enough to be right most of the time.
Deshaun always says he's not perfect but he's a winner. The NFL game has evolved but these "experts" don't want to adapt. They've completely downplayed the fact he absolutely torched the Alabama Pro Bowl defense twice. ESPN can't get over the pain of being wrong.
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Saaayyy whaaaa?
Mar 7, 2017, 7:14 PM
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Can't make an in inaccurate QB accurate? Then why are they kissing Trubisky's turd cutter at every turn? What film do these desk jockeys watch?
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Re: Saaayyy whaaaa?
Mar 9, 2017, 1:09 PM
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Either Hoge is a LIAR!!! or a BOOB!!! Perhaps both. Did he not watch the game winning drive that beat Alabuma?
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 7:44 PM
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I'm guessing Hodge only reviewed the Pitt game, where Watson did struggle in the red zone. But the full body of work should count for something, no?
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 8:02 PM
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If you read the news today, ESPN is laying off many of their TV and radio analysts. Just go crazy and maybe they keep you?
There were times that Watson locked on to a receiver and threw the ball in good coverage. Yes, it did end up in a interception sometimes. Everybody needs some work.
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 7, 2017, 8:04 PM
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All you need to know regarding the value of Mr. Hoge's assessment of QB's....
https://youtu.be/EzLvGOs99oA
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Good for HR13
Mar 7, 2017, 9:10 PM
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Hearing that crap infuriates me.....I can't imagine how DW4s teammates must feel.
I am sick of people not doing their homework and really watching what DW4 is capable of.
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Keep that video in your back pocket Renfrow
Mar 7, 2017, 9:12 PM
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...cuz when Watson is lighting up defenses on Sundays, you will have ammo to brag..
Hoge is a fat-tie wearing, 10-th round (huh?), under achieving clown
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He's a Steeler which means his IQ is pretty low.***
Mar 7, 2017, 9:57 PM
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one of deshaun's wrs > tv hack
Mar 7, 2017, 10:01 PM
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honestly I don't know what these guys are watching. the back shoulder throw and the fade are 2 of the toughest passes in football and deshaun throws them better than anyone I've ever seen. his deep ball was a little off this year but I think it's because he bulked up and needed to recalibrate. he's a great passer and u can't wait to see him prove these punks wrong
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Pull String until fully extended - Talk Heads Lips
Mar 8, 2017, 12:02 AM
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begin Moving and say things just to get a controversy. Sometimes we duplicate things even if they were Stupid Analogies 10 years AGO! The ESPN guys are becoming the Worst. I believe some of them are just trying to keep their Job. DW4 Top 5 Draft pick this year!!!
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Watsons RZ issue isn't accuracy related, its overconfidence
Mar 8, 2017, 8:45 AM
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sometime its better to just throw it away and fight another play. He will force the ball into narrow openings. But from the very first TD throw he made, we knew accuracy isn't the issue.
The only other knock I would say on DWs passing is that he tends to go to the back shoulder throw too often. Thats just a comfort thing with his WRs though. He's always had that option because our WRs tend to be taller but not quite the burners that get seperation.
And every QB that has ever transitioned to the NFL has to learn the difference between what is open in the NFL vs what is open in college.
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the only bad one was the Pitt game though. Am i missing a
Mar 8, 2017, 9:04 AM
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flurry of others? He had two picked in the Pitt game, one was a great play by the defender then other was his only bone head one there at the end. The other red zone pick was against GT but that was b/c MWilliams read the route wrong and he went outside when he should have went inside. So thats on MW. The other 200 plays he was pretty efficient i thought.
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He had 4 or 5 picks in the endzone
Mar 8, 2017, 9:21 AM
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The GT one and the 2 against Pitt. He also had 1 against Louisville and I think there was another against either Troy or NCSU.
I'm not counting other redzone INTs but those are the ones that I can think of where they had a pick in the endzone.
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 8, 2017, 9:32 AM
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That guy is still bitter about being selected in the 10th round.
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Hoge is a 1st round
Mar 9, 2017, 9:52 AM
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Cut by ESPN.
1st rounders can only get a job at KGAY in San Francisco on the midnight-6am slot.
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 8, 2017, 8:53 PM
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Hodge has no clue. It IS obvious that he did not see WATSON play. His workout at the combine was unbelievably accurate with a gun for an arm. By the way , he picked against Clemson in the playoffs.
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Merrill Just Butthurt He Will Be Cut By ESPN in Next Round
Mar 8, 2017, 11:54 PM
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of chops. Bye Merrill, how bout I critique your journalism or lack thereof
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Re: FB Update: Renfrow defends Deshaun Watson as ESPN analyst claims accuracy issues
Mar 10, 2017, 7:55 AM
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Where do these things run? They must need to fill daytime airtime for 24/7 sportsnews. I would never have seen this clip if not for Tigernet.
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