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Legend [16027]
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With the greatest election stunner in my lifetime
Nov 10, 2016, 8:50 AM
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many moderate republicans are all ready trying to influence Donald Trump's positions hoping he will fall in line with their beliefs. This tells me some of our so called republicans still don't get it.
We want change, we are tired of doing things their way. Since many of them road to Washington on President Elect Trump's coat tails they should re think their positions and beliefs.
And If Hillary loves America as much as she indicated in her concession speech she will address all these people trying to use fear tactics that President Trump is planning on using gas chambers etc to eliminate the LGBT groups and other such groups that were devastated when hillary lost the election.
I believe for the first time we truly have Washington outsiders in our highest 2 offices. What I mean is they are not beholden to special interest. They are accountable to every American.
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Pence is not an outsider.
Nov 10, 2016, 8:53 AM
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My hope is that Trump's lack of ideology and expressed contempt for the Right and Left wings will lead to some positives.
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Orange Blooded [4446]
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exactly, after 12 years in Congress
Nov 10, 2016, 10:13 AM
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how can Pence be considered an outsider?
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Re: With the greatest election stunner in my lifetime
Nov 10, 2016, 8:57 AM
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Have you stopped for a minute to think of the damage Trump could do to this country if largely left unchecked? I'm glad there are at least a few republicans willing to stick to their guns...and hope there are enough in the Senate to prevent anything too silly. If when Trump leaves office in four years we don't have a wall, gays/lesbians are still allowed to marry, we aren't at war with a sovereign country, and abortion is still legal, I will breathe a huge sigh of relief.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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now I'm starting to see what my side looked like in 2008***
Nov 10, 2016, 9:00 AM
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Re: now I'm starting to see what my side looked like in 2008***
Nov 10, 2016, 9:06 AM
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Well, I guess if you consider us on different 'sides' then that's your decision...not mine. All I am saying is that ANY POTUS left unchecked would be dangerous...but especially this one. He's not used to compromise, so I imagine he will do anything to get his way. I am just glad there will be people to stand in his way WHEN it makes sense to. He may have some good ideas and I will give him a chance...but those things I listed are not negotiable.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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My apologies...
Nov 10, 2016, 9:23 AM
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I agree that the POTUS needs to be kept in check.
I got an idea. I did not vote for Obama in 2007, but I did give him the benefit of the doubt after being highly critical throughout the campaign. Why don't we wait and see what happens next year before freaking out?
Obama turned out to be pretty much what I expected as you may be right about Trump.
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Re: "He's not used to compromise"
Nov 10, 2016, 9:32 AM
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Maybe unfair on my part...I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and we will see what happens. If he can actually bring both sides together and do some good for the country then his time in office will be a huge success.
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Re: With the greatest election stunner in my lifetime
Nov 10, 2016, 9:10 AM
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100% Agree with you on that one. Really just wondering how long he'll be in office before he throws his first temper tantrum.
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Re: With the greatest election stunner in my lifetime
Nov 10, 2016, 9:16 AM
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HA! To be fair...I bet a lot of Presidents throw tantrums behind closed doors. If he is frustrated a good bit of the time then that tells me our government is working the way it should. No single branch should get their way all of the time.
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Re: With the greatest election stunner in my lifetime
Nov 10, 2016, 9:27 AM
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Yours is a typical response when some indicates they what real change. I am not advocating violence or that Trump not work with all members of congress. And you indicate my beliefs are dangerous because they are not in line with yours. I don't hate any group but it does not mean I have to support them. I voted for Trump because I want real change not superficial change or change for the benefit of the minority over the majority. You have condemned Donald Trump before he has completed his first day in the WH.
I have Bill Clinton and Obama my support once they won but then changed my support as they began putting their policies in place. You have that same right. Like it or not Trump is going to be our next President.
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Re: With the greatest election stunner in my lifetime
Nov 10, 2016, 9:53 AM
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I think many are just nervous about what this 'change' may entail. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he can bring about some real change that benefits all Americans. If he can do this while not allowing congress to strip away the rights of Americans, then I will call his time in office a success.
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I don't know.
Nov 10, 2016, 9:01 AM
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Trump received less votes than Romney. I'm not sure that other candidates "road" his coattails or that he's received any mandate that everyone else must fall in line and do what he says. He's still got to work with others, if he doesn't then his presidency will be a disaster.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Yeah if he doesn't work with dems it will be bad....
Nov 10, 2016, 9:03 AM
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Successful leaders earn the trust of those who oppose him
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Re: Yeah if he doesn't work with dems it will be bad....
Nov 10, 2016, 9:07 AM
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or those that oppose him come out and say their ultimate goal is that their opponent is a one term President. Love how there is a different set of rules now.
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Same set of rules apparently, just applied by different side***
Nov 10, 2016, 9:08 AM
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Re: Same set of rules apparently, just applied by different side***
Nov 10, 2016, 9:11 AM
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That's not the expectation. We are supposed to just all fall in line and unite around this guy. Republicans came out right after the election talking about how they wouldn't do anything with Obama and they'd make sure he would be a one term President.
At least the Dems in office are coming out trying to find something to work on with Trump. Just as usual...the adults have to compromise while the whiny children in office stomp their feet.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I don't expect that...
Nov 10, 2016, 9:27 AM
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feel free to fret as much as you want
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Re: I don't expect that...
Nov 10, 2016, 10:03 AM
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Expect what? The dems are going to be adults and work for the country. Unlike the obstructionist Republicans the last 8 years.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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good***
Nov 10, 2016, 10:09 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Re: If the Dems obstruct on jobs, economy, working class, etc.
Nov 10, 2016, 9:11 AM
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It worked for the Republican/Teabaggers.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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What did they obstruct?***
Nov 10, 2016, 10:06 AM
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Oculus Spirit [93712]
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Some of Trump's promises are appealing.
Nov 10, 2016, 10:15 AM
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Some, such as prosecuting Hillary and draining the swamp, are just political rhetoric intended to slander the opponent.
After all the radical statements of the early campaign it's kinda hard to imagine how much of a negotiator Trump could be. He didn't close all those billions in deals by behaving like a bull in a china shop.
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